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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 01:30 GMT
#340
On January 11 2014 10:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 11 2014 10:18 Xatalos wrote:
Is it a reasonable strategy to fakeclaim Miller? I've never heard of that being done, but is it within the realms of possibility?


nope never happens


lol

Btw DH, what happened to your vendetta on suchdoge?

Do you think you can read most of the players in this game well? Can you read BH or kush?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 02:29 GMT
#353
On January 11 2014 10:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello.

I have neither interest in running for nor objection to being mayor. Probably better to confirm a vet as town and then vote that veteran.

I will initiate a private chat with Blazinghand soon, otherwise feel free to PM me your desired method of communication. I watch Star Trek evenings (California time), immediately following tends to improve communication with me.

Please be wary of me, I am very good at looking town early! It just doesn't tend to last. This game I may try and learn how to do that or simply exude my alignment naturally.

I'm expecting a pretty good game.


What came out of your chat with BH?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 02:48 GMT
#359
On January 11 2014 11:34 Blazinghand wrote:
I have yet to receive a om from slam


.....What? What was the meaning of his first post then?

Alakaslam better explain the meaning of this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:01 GMT
#360
On January 11 2014 11:44 Aquanim wrote:
Hi. I have no desire to be mayor. There, that's out of the way.

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On January 11 2014 11:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Until someone provides a real reason to be elected they shouldn't be considered.

What do you consider a real reason to be elected?



Why do you have no desire to become a Mayor?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:05 GMT
#363
On January 11 2014 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
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On January 11 2014 11:48 Xatalos wrote:
On January 11 2014 11:34 Blazinghand wrote:
I have yet to receive a om from slam


.....What? What was the meaning of his first post then?

Alakaslam better explain the meaning of this.

Lol. Stuff came up I received BH's pm.


You said you're initiating a chat, yet BH PM'd you? Can you explain more closely?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:15 GMT
#367
On January 11 2014 12:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently Blazinghand is running not only his own campaing but also another one. Seems pretty weird for me.


What do you mean with this?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#381
On January 11 2014 12:23 Alakaslam wrote:
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On January 11 2014 12:05 Xatalos wrote:
On January 11 2014 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 11 2014 11:48 Xatalos wrote:
On January 11 2014 11:34 Blazinghand wrote:
I have yet to receive a om from slam


.....What? What was the meaning of his first post then?

Alakaslam better explain the meaning of this.

Lol. Stuff came up I received BH's pm.


You said you're initiating a chat, yet BH PM'd you? Can you explain more closely?

I had to go. I was using iPhone at home and got a call from my mom, her washer is busted. Can give you picture if you want but it will say nothing.

Then I received BH's elect dr h pm.


Ok... Well, that BH campaign explains things.

I'm a bit confused by the campaign though. BH, how did you choose who to PM? Why were you promoting yourself and DrH at the same time? What exactly made you start supporting DrH?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:39 GMT
#387
On January 11 2014 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Blues should obviously claim to the mayor so that mafia cannot fakeclaim after N1. Fucking simple. No need to PM me about it.


What if the Mayor is scum? Then all the blues are dead.....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:45 GMT
#392
On January 11 2014 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think i am scum. If DrH thinks he is scum then maybe we should lynch him.


That hardly explains anything. Obviously the Mayor would claim to be town, but there's always a chance he might be scum. Unless there's some clean way to confirm him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:50 GMT
#394
On January 11 2014 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am not planning on electing scum mayor so..


There's no such thing as 100% confirmed without confirmation by some role. Obviously there's no way someone can be confirmed before N1 ends. It seems way too risky to put all the eggs in one (possibly scum) basket.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 03:57 GMT
#395
Good night now though. It's 6am here :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 16:35 GMT
#662
rayn: you never answered about why you would have blues claim to an unconfirmed Mayor. Why?

I really dislike BH's sudden switch from all-in on kush to supporting DrH. He claims to still lobby for lynching kush, but his attitude is different from Titanic II, where he went all-in on xigxag (a lurker). He's much less vocal about his preferred tunnel and partly drops it very suddenly. I disagree with his tunneling attitude in general, but more strongly I dislike his quick attitude switch and the weak conviction behind the original tunnel.

Aquanim looks shady from what little there is in his filter. He claims disinterest in becoming a Mayor, makes some general one-liner questions and then these:

On January 11 2014 22:09 Aquanim wrote:
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On January 11 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed with Mocsta, suchdoge is the scummiest person in the thread.

D'you reckon you can explain this to me? That long post of his looks like it was written pregame, and therefore doesn't tell me much regarding his alignment. He's also expressed a desire to talk with people (specifically VE) which isn't the most intuitive thing I'd expect a scum smurf to do.

If he thinks that long post is sufficient contribution for the day I'll agree with you that he's likely scum - but I don't see any reason to believe yet that there won't be more material forthcoming from him.

Is there anything else making you lean scum on him? Convince me.


On January 11 2014 22:22 Aquanim wrote:
Yeah OK lemme rephrase that. I don't think you wrote the post pregame, but it contains next to no commitments to what you think anybody's alignments are, which would make my read on you much more solid. Now if you're still playing games in PMs and trying to work out people's alingments, and you don't want to reveal your work yet, that's fine - but I'm hoping that sooner or later you will show your working, so to speak.


A really lackluster and factually false first argument, then a barely better follow-up. This is as non-committal as can be. I see this much more likely coming from scum than town. I had the impression that Aquanim was supposed to be good as town?

I also really dislike mkfuba07's entrance into the thread:

On January 11 2014 12:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hiya :D

I, as well, am not running for mayor.

If I had to vote now, it would likely be for DrH. At the moment it's much a gut feeling, but it was my thought before reading BH's PM. I like his promises if he is going to keep them, even though I'm sure they would be directed at me at some point because of the way I play. Now I just need to make sure I feel he's going to keep them.

BH, is there a reason you cut off a bit of your PM when you copied it?


This is an extremely safe opening post that doesn't really say anything. It looks constructed with a greeting, a short show of support for the most reasonable Mayor campaigner at the time, and a trivial question at the end. Then complete silence.

suchdoge had a big opening post that said a lot of nothing. Then he proceeded to disappear into TeamSpeak or something. suchdoge, you can't use PM's anymore? If so, I really want you to post in the thread. You're impossible to read as of now. With that said, I doubt scum would just completely disappear from the thread like that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 16:41 GMT
#664
On January 12 2014 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I did answer. The mayor is not scum.


How can you be so sure? marv even claimed that if he was scum, he would 100% run for Mayor. I don't think it's out of the question at all.

AFK for like 2 hours now though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 19:04 GMT
#700
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 19:18 GMT
#703
On January 12 2014 04:06 Koshi wrote:
Your point? Why so outraged?


I'm just baffled by a completely false statement like that. I see no gain for him to lie on purpose, but it's weird that he would just forget about our PM's as well. So I want to know what caused this statement.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 19:19 GMT
#704
On January 12 2014 04:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?

yea i forgot. ve pmd me too i guess.


Do you have reads you can share now? In PM's you were completely unwilling to talk.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 19:22 GMT
#707
I was sleeping after our PM's. But can you share now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 19:28 GMT
#709
Well, not completely unwilling, but evasive. I agree that there's no good reason for you to lie there, which made me assume you forgot, but it still feels weird.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 22:51 GMT
#792
On January 12 2014 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Xatalos here's what i don't get:
    [1]First you have a PM-convo with DrH.
    [2]After this i ask DrH's read on you. He says "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol".
    [3]After this you come back to the thread and make a post on BH, Aquanim, fuba and suchdoge. You even ask me about something we talked about at the time you had your convo with DrH.
    [4]After this DrH forgets half of the people he has PM'd with.
    [5]After this you call him out for his PM's with you.

Here:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?


So. First of all. If you really thought his PM's with you were fishy and he was unwilling to cooperate and it's scummy how can you possibly miss the fact that the dude didn't even remember he has been in PM contact with you in the first place? If i had a fishy PM-convo with someone i would bring that up in the first place when i have a chance to do so. Not AFTER he gives a reason to do so by not remembering something. And i certainly would not miss the fact a couple of hours after our PM-convo the guy does not remember me.

Because to me this looks like;
"I PM'd with DrH, cool. I didn't really care about what he says. But now, he gave me a reason to attack him, in fact i can also throw some shit on him because this could be labeled fishy".

So, why are you not paying attention to scummy stuff and why are you not calling it out in the first place possible if it was important?


I was dissatisfied with my PM chat with him, but I didn't think it was necessarily scummy. It just made me think that I wouldn't want to have him as Mayor. I discussed about DrH in PM's but I don't think I talked about him in the thread. I think the more likely scenario is that he's town, but not fit for being Mayor.

As I already said, I initially misunderstood the meaning of DrH's earlier thread post. When he said that he didn't know me, I just moved on and thought that he must have meant something like "I've never played with Xatalos". Then I kind of forgot the whole post. Only after he later mentioned that he never PM'd me did I start questioning him. I only made the connection with his earlier "I don't know Xatalos" post after you mentioned it in a PM.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 11 2014 22:56 GMT
#801
On January 12 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Since your policy lynch is gone BH how do you feel about lynching xatalos?


xatalos is stuck on me, and from my interactions with him it seems like he's pretending to be ignorant of my meta. as a result, i'd be fine with lynching xatalos. after correcting for my "don't just lynch people because they dislike you" bias I am less convinced, though. I'm not so sure scum would stick out their neck and attack big strong players for no real reason


How am I ignoring your meta? Granted we only discussed for a short while and that was a long time ago.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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