• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:05
CEST 07:05
KST 14:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists12[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Adeleke University 2026/2027 Admission Form is Out Baze University 2026/2027 Admission Form is Out. C Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0 Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [BSL22] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2200 users

TL Mafia LXIV: A Game of Intrigue - Page 29

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 114 Next
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:40 GMT
#561
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 11 2014 10:42 GMT
#562
On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.

quote the words that sound scummy to you
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:43 GMT
#563
On January 11 2014 19:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.

quote the words that sound scummy to you

The whole filter in one sentence is impossibly scummy to say in one breath.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:43 GMT
#564
BTW rayn. vig shots happen @ night only.

So you can talk at ease.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 11 2014 10:45 GMT
#565
can we save rayn by making him mayor lol?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 10:45 GMT
#566
On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.


what about the rustling
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
January 11 2014 10:56 GMT
#567
On January 11 2014 19:45 kushm4sta wrote:
can we save rayn by making him mayor lol?

do you have good reason to believe rayn is town? if so would you mind sharing it?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 11 2014 10:57 GMT
#568
thrawn confirmed town - inquisitive nature
alaka confirmed town - townie paranoia suspicion of me in pms
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 11 2014 10:57 GMT
#569
On January 11 2014 19:56 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:45 kushm4sta wrote:
can we save rayn by making him mayor lol?

do you have good reason to believe rayn is town? if so would you mind sharing it?

yup its a specific post let me find it
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 11 2014 11:00 GMT
#570
On January 11 2014 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well DrH i think you are probably town, the question is do i feel like you are going to lynch mafia on D1? That remains to be seen yet. So we can stop arguing about the way this game should be played, but i can tell you there is no reason people should not discuss reads in thread instead of PM's.
+ Show Spoiler +
Let's say you post very little and are really active in PM-land. When the lynch comes, the mayor who's gonna get elected has you as scumread. They say "i'll be lynching X because he is not playing the game and he is useless". Then people go "nono, he's really townie in PM's - look, he has these good reads on Z, A, B, K, S."

You then need to re-judge your stance on them and find anohter lynch. Why? Was there some ultimate big plan reasoning to NOT be in thread discussing thse reads? Not with one person, but with anyone.

How is that townie? I just can't fucking see it and i hate when people do it because it's scummy or really stupid. PM's should be used when there is a reason to use them. Discussing scumreads on D1 is not the reason.


A question, what do you think of Xatalos?


actually he has a lot of really townie posts. this is one of them.

I don't think scum would ever take that position towards DrH. you are town but I dont think you are going to lynch mafia.
I think that's a very townie type thought to have. I also agree with him.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 11 2014 11:06 GMT
#571
At this point in the game it is too early to properly consider whom to elect, particularly as the game started at a late hour for EU players (like marv). Thus I do not think players should finalise their votes or anything like that.

The mayor we elect should ideally look very town, and be very accountable to his or her reads. This basically requires the player to be active and good at hunting scum as town. They also need to be capable of leading while sufficiently malleable to the opinions of others-in other words if they can coordinate a town circle and consolidate opinions that they receive from a majority of the players in the game. They should be very active in PMs.

In light of this marvellosity and Mig would be ideally the best candidates if we can determine they are likely town. In Marv's case this is probably harder but if he is town he'd most definitely be the best choice. He has good reads, is active, and has played with most if not all of the players in the game.

Mig on the other hand is far more accountable as town, because he's one of the easiest scum players to catch. Essentially if he's not making sense and he's not actively finding scum, he's scum. His reads tend to be really good as town and make absolutely no sense whatsoever as scum. He hasn't played much recently but he'd still be a great choice for mayor.

I'm unwilling to vote DH if either of these other two can establish themselves as town with good reads. I'm unwilling to vote DH in general because as a scum hunter I do not think he is good enough. He does not know the current players well enough- by virtue of his comment on not knowing who Xatalos is this should be pretty apparent. I also do not think he displays the proper mindset to be able to catch scum, and would probably be more likely to push bad or slightly disruptive townies simply for the reasons of disagreeing with them. Disagreements should be welcomed as long as they are properly reasoned. Lastly I do not think DH is as capable of leading as either of the other two, especially again as he does not know what to expect from some of these players given that he does not know them well enough. His posts so far have simply been long winded and relatively devoid of substance. They certainly have been written well, but often they do not carry a point that is worth the 300 words it is accompanied with.

I think that everyone should be PMing players they think they can read easily in PMs-attempt to get a feel for the alignments of different people by PMing them. If you encounter a player who does not much effort in discussing reads with you, then you should be alarmed and should probably consider calling them out in thread.

For now if anyone has questions you are all encouraged to PM me. I will be a bit busy today but hopefully should get the time to answer everyone throughout the day when I have breaks.



Wow
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:07 GMT
#572
On January 11 2014 20:00 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well DrH i think you are probably town, the question is do i feel like you are going to lynch mafia on D1? That remains to be seen yet. So we can stop arguing about the way this game should be played, but i can tell you there is no reason people should not discuss reads in thread instead of PM's.
+ Show Spoiler +
Let's say you post very little and are really active in PM-land. When the lynch comes, the mayor who's gonna get elected has you as scumread. They say "i'll be lynching X because he is not playing the game and he is useless". Then people go "nono, he's really townie in PM's - look, he has these good reads on Z, A, B, K, S."

You then need to re-judge your stance on them and find anohter lynch. Why? Was there some ultimate big plan reasoning to NOT be in thread discussing thse reads? Not with one person, but with anyone.

How is that townie? I just can't fucking see it and i hate when people do it because it's scummy or really stupid. PM's should be used when there is a reason to use them. Discussing scumreads on D1 is not the reason.


A question, what do you think of Xatalos?


actually he has a lot of really townie posts. this is one of them.

I don't think scum would ever take that position towards DrH. you are town but I dont think you are going to lynch mafia.
I think that's a very townie type thought to have. I also agree with him.

LOl...
/trolling

<Serious Mode>
Thats an easy statement to apply to any player.
I think you are town but I dont respect your reads.

This is far from a good post to identify someone as clear town.
Ultimately, he is discussing his personal beliefs on how to play the game.
Something very easy to not lie about as town OR scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:09 GMT
#573
On January 11 2014 20:06 suchdoge wrote:
At this point in the game it is too early to properly consider whom to elect, particularly as the game started at a late hour for EU players (like marv). Thus I do not think players should finalise their votes or anything like that.
+ Show Spoiler [1] +

The mayor we elect should ideally look very town, and be very accountable to his or her reads. This basically requires the player to be active and good at hunting scum as town. They also need to be capable of leading while sufficiently malleable to the opinions of others-in other words if they can coordinate a town circle and consolidate opinions that they receive from a majority of the players in the game. They should be very active in PMs.


In light of this marvellosity and Mig would be ideally the best candidates if we can determine they are likely town.

+ Show Spoiler [2] +
In Marv's case this is probably harder but if he is town he'd most definitely be the best choice. He has good reads, is active, and has played with most if not all of the players in the game.

Mig on the other hand is far more accountable as town, because he's one of the easiest scum players to catch. Essentially if he's not making sense and he's not actively finding scum, he's scum. His reads tend to be really good as town and make absolutely no sense whatsoever as scum. He hasn't played much recently but he'd still be a great choice for mayor.

I'm unwilling to vote DH if either of these other two can establish themselves as town with good reads. I'm unwilling to vote DH in general because as a scum hunter I do not think he is good enough. He does not know the current players well enough- by virtue of his comment on not knowing who Xatalos is this should be pretty apparent. I also do not think he displays the proper mindset to be able to catch scum, and would probably be more likely to push bad or slightly disruptive townies simply for the reasons of disagreeing with them. Disagreements should be welcomed as long as they are properly reasoned. Lastly I do not think DH is as capable of leading as either of the other two, especially again as he does not know what to expect from some of these players given that he does not know them well enough. His posts so far have simply been long winded and relatively devoid of substance. They certainly have been written well, but often they do not carry a point that is worth the 300 words it is accompanied with.

I think that everyone should be PMing players they think they can read easily in PMs-attempt to get a feel for the alignments of different people by PMing them. If you encounter a player who does not much effort in discussing reads with you, then you should be alarmed and should probably consider calling them out in thread.

For now if anyone has questions you are all encouraged to PM me. I will be a bit busy today but hopefully should get the time to answer everyone throughout the day when I have breaks.

At spoiler 1 I thought this guy is guy but kept reading the boring monologue.

At spoiler 2, I realised this guy is scum.

##Shoot: doge
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:14 GMT
#574
HEAR YE, HEAR YE


To those that desire the vote of 1/25th of this game.

If thou wil indulge my simple pleasure by lynching "suchdoge"

MY vote will be forever yours during this Day 1.
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 11 2014 11:14 GMT
#575
Care to explain where you disagree Mocsta?

If you want, we can take it to PMs.
Wow
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:15 GMT
#576
On January 11 2014 20:14 suchdoge wrote:
Care to explain where you disagree Mocsta?

If you want, we can take it to PMs.

I have nothing to hide, and am more than happy to continue shitting up the thread.

My issue is precisely without lies outside the spoilers.

Having said that, I jsut finished reading what lies within the spoilers and am equally dismayed.
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#577
On January 11 2014 20:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 20:14 suchdoge wrote:
Care to explain where you disagree Mocsta?

If you want, we can take it to PMs.

I have nothing to hide, and am more than happy to continue shitting up the thread.

My issue is precisely without lies outside the spoilers.

Having said that, I jsut finished reading what lies within the spoilers and am equally dismayed.


So you would rather not discuss things in PMs for a reason that I can only say is dismissive and bad.

Would you say that anyone who refused to discuss things with you in PMs with such an awful reason would be town? I certainly wouldn't. I'd be pretty suspicious of anyone who is not willing to divulge their thinking process in private. It takes too much effort for scum to blend in under that type of pressure.

We could discuss preliminary reads. Who we think is scum. Who we think is almost certainly town. Do you not want to do that?
Wow
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:25 GMT
#578
On January 11 2014 20:18 suchdoge wrote:
Who we think is scum.

clearly you
Who we think is almost certainly town.

clearly me

Do you not want to do that?

I already did.

Your turn.
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 11 2014 11:28 GMT
#579
No thanks, this is not PMs and you are doing a poor job of advocating your ability to be useful as far as good opinions are concerned.
Wow
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:41 GMT
#580
Wow

Thats really town of you doge.

Force informatoin out of me and then return the favour.

If the mayor doesnt kill you, I will.
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
uThermal 2v2 Circuit S2 Mar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 205
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5791
Sharp 202
Tasteless 101
SilentControl 30
Noble 17
soO 10
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm138
League of Legends
JimRising 616
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K479
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox358
Other Games
summit1g10223
tarik_tv3223
C9.Mang0371
Trikslyr146
Maynarde108
ViBE108
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV301
Counter-Strike
PGL87
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH309
• practicex 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush900
Upcoming Events
Escore
4h 55m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5h 55m
OSC
9h 55m
Big Brain Bouts
10h 55m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
Korean StarCraft League
21h 55m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 4h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 5h
IPSL
1d 10h
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 13h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
CranKy Ducklings
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-15
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.