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On December 18 2013 00:26 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 18 2013 00:15 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean it does not make sense that purple "scumslips" and JJD does the opposite. If JJD was scum it would be trrible scum miscoordination because JJD basically has to at least on some level accuse purple after that. It was only mentioned after purple was lynched so it was meaningless. No man, it wasn't. It was mentioned way before noone was even voted for purple. JJD had posted that in thread before i accused you and purple & Artanis went crazy on me. Why would he call that 'basically a scumslip' then? when purple hadn't flipped and simply pointed a holyflare post out. That makes JJD look even worse than I thought. It was after Purple Died I believe. I was calling Vaynes post about being doublestacked a scumslip before purple died.
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On December 18 2013 00:24 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 00:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 00:13 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't think JJD would have been so vocal about asking the hosts if scum could have hit HF aswell if he was mafia. This is also interesting and could implicate SK: On December 15 2013 06:12 JarJarDrinks wrote: K, guess I was wrong about vayne. No way that was a 2 scum race.
Slam looks pretty terrible after trying to vote snipe. I think Grack looks pretty bad too wasting his vote when he was clearly here.
Rayn and Plu obv town. Post all Ur reads tonight since one of u is prob gonna die. Why does he assume one of us is going to die on N2, the medic was dead and there was no reason to assume 2 medics. Cause he is thinking in terms of having one KP and he is going to hit one of the towniest members cause he is scum. He doesn;t know who SK is going to hit. because SK may not want to hit town at that point. Rayn. JJD is mafia. 100% I'm confused. How is it not incredibly obvious that scum is gonna go after one of you 2? I don't understand how this indicates a scum mindset. It doesn't. all the other things I have posted make you confirmed scum though. Lol, scum not mentioning me? Well how the hell can I defend myself from that?
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On December 18 2013 00:39 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 00:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 00:26 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 18 2013 00:15 Plutarch wrote:On December 18 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean it does not make sense that purple "scumslips" and JJD does the opposite. If JJD was scum it would be trrible scum miscoordination because JJD basically has to at least on some level accuse purple after that. It was only mentioned after purple was lynched so it was meaningless. No man, it wasn't. It was mentioned way before noone was even voted for purple. JJD had posted that in thread before i accused you and purple & Artanis went crazy on me. Why would he call that 'basically a scumslip' then? when purple hadn't flipped and simply pointed a holyflare post out. That makes JJD look even worse than I thought. It was after Purple Died I believe. I was calling Vaynes post about being doublestacked a scumslip before purple died. Either way you are scum. No, I'm not.
There, now I made a defense that's @ least as good as your case against me.
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On December 18 2013 00:42 Plutarch wrote: You can't. You made a case on Xatalos and he does not mention you despite that. You don't mention or push xatalos despite making a case on him day one. You haven't done any serious scum hunting or made concerted pushes all game despite having decent activity. Bullshit. Are you actually reading my filter cause I've done a ton of scumhunting. Vayne was my top scumread all game so he's the person I've been voting and pushing. I've had other people as scumreads and I've always said I'd vote for them if it came down to a vote between them and someone I didn't have a scum read on. It just so happens that Vayne has been a leading wagon all game.
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On December 18 2013 00:51 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 00:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 00:42 Plutarch wrote: You can't. You made a case on Xatalos and he does not mention you despite that. You don't mention or push xatalos despite making a case on him day one. You haven't done any serious scum hunting or made concerted pushes all game despite having decent activity. Bullshit. Are you actually reading my filter cause I've done a ton of scumhunting. Vayne was my top scumread all game so he's the person I've been voting and pushing. I've had other people as scumreads and I've always said I'd vote for them if it came down to a vote between them and someone I didn't have a scum read on. It just so happens that Vayne has been a leading wagon all game. Yeah all you have done all game is half hardheartedly push the scummiest townie in the game. Despite calling out actual scum day one and then ignoring them mysteriously till the end of day two. I ignored him cause he hadn't done anything I thought was too scummy since then and I had a scumread on Vayne. Don't forget, that once purple flipped, I was pretty confident that Vayne was town. And I argued against his lynch (even though you were pretty much 100% sure he was scum also). How easy would it have been for me to just have kept my scumread on him and secure a mislynch?
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On December 18 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:JJD: Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 13:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: Going to bed. Will check out Xat tomorrow. I've had him as scummy most of this game but never really near the top of my reads. So that might actually make sense for a SK. Other people I think we should consider lynching: sidesprig, Grack, Slam. Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 05:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 17 2013 04:49 LSB wrote: Current Scum Team Reads willing to bandwagon anyone in this list who is put up to the lynch: Xatalos/SideSprang/Alakaslam/purpletrator This is exactly what I have too. Where did Grack go`?
On December 17 2013 05:21 JarJarDrinks wrote: W/ Grack as SK for what I pointed out about how he voted vayne day 1 but day 2 refused to do so w/o giving any reason and then let his vote just waste even though he was in thread @ the deadline.
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On December 18 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yeah you definitely argued that Vayne is town. Here is your last post where you argue against Vayne lynch before he got modkilled: Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 12:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: Anyway. Can't get anymore scummy than the fake cop claim. I think he's way more likely to flip SK though
##vote Vayne Totally town. Well, duh. After he fake claimed, I didn;t think he was a townread anymore. Gimme a sec and I'll dig up me defending him.
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Actually, I'm not gonna dig it up. It's there. No reason to post it when it's gonna be dismissed as looking for towncred.
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On December 18 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 01:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yeah you definitely argued that Vayne is town. Here is your last post where you argue against Vayne lynch before he got modkilled: On December 16 2013 12:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: Anyway. Can't get anymore scummy than the fake cop claim. I think he's way more likely to flip SK though
##vote Vayne Totally town. Well, duh. After he fake claimed, I didn;t think he was a townread anymore. Gimme a sec and I'll dig up me defending him. I am sorry if i have missed something but why did you think vayne's alignment had anything to do with purple's after D2 lynch? On December 16 2013 03:34 JarJarDrinks wrote: As much as I'd like the fact that I pushed hard for a townie lynch 2 days in a row to be false, I don't understand how Vayne can be scum anymore.
Purple tried to vote Vayne last minute. What purpose could that serve? I was pretty much the only person that thought Vayne was scum. Meanwhile the whole town suspected purple. Why would scum sacrifice Vayne to keep the very scummy Purple in the game?
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On December 18 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's entertain an idea that Vayne is scum. Did they sacrifice Vayne if Vayne was scum? No, but they risked it for absolutely no reason.
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@Vayne and Cora
Please take note of how an adult behaves when he's falsely being accused of being scum. Notice how I won't rage and get modkilled. I'm actually still gonna help my team win. Crazy I know!
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Grack pretty much has to be telling the truth here. I'm on phone but will post more when I get to a computer.
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On December 18 2013 02:20 Plutarch wrote: You all got caught. you are trying some power play or something. there is no way when it comes down to your word against mine are we lynching me first. So as I said. We lynch Xatalos first. Then we lynch you tomorrow and prove you are the liar that you are. Gee, I wonder why you want to lynch Xat and not Grack first.
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On December 18 2013 03:29 Plutarch wrote: Also which cop in their right mind would check me night two after the purple lynch? I should be one of the last checks you would make as cop after that wagon went down. That's actually a good point. Though I never got the impression that Grack has been paying to much attention to the game.
Here's what should happen:
We lynch Xat today.
If Grack is lying then the real cop should counterclaim @ the very end of the night phase. Like w/ a minute remaining.
If there's no claim, then we kill Plu, otherwise we kill Grack.
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Does that work for u Plu?
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On December 18 2013 03:41 Plutarch wrote: No. The cop should not claim. Just lynch grack cause he is a liar and scum. if he flips town I will lynch myself.
The cop should claim when they are ready or have anything to report. we still have 1 lynch to play with. See, this how you can tell Plu is lying. Unless you believe that he's completely stupid and doesn't understand simple math.
- We're @ 7/3/1.
- We Lynch Xat today and go to 7/2/1
- Assuming 2 townies die tonight it goes to 5/2/1
- Now if we lynch Grack and he's the cop, it goes to 4/2/1
- 2 NKs make it 2/2/1
Him Saying On December 18 2013 03:41 Plutarch wrote: if he flips town I will lynch myself. is him claiming SK.
Like is there a bigger scumtell than saying "Just lynch this guy. If he's town then U can lynch me tomorrow." Plu seems rasonably intelligent. Why would he make this statement when he knows that if grack is telling the truth and we lynch him, we lose?
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On December 18 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: And how does this make sense? He'll lose in your scenario 100%. Well he pretty much lost as soon as Grack claimed. But he doesn't lose 100% in this scenario. He can tie or he can win if town plays kingmaker.
On December 18 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: And what would he say if he is town? He would try his darndest to get Grack Lynched TODAY. This way everything is cleared up and we have scum to lynch tomorrow. The longer he keeps Grack alive, the more likely he makes it to the endgame.
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On December 18 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: JJD you have yet to answer, who do you want to lynch today? Xatalos. He's 100% scum while there's a chance I'm wrong about Plu.
But on the next day, if you people lynch a an uncountered cop than we deserve to lose.
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On December 18 2013 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 04:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: And how does this make sense? He'll lose in your scenario 100%. Well he pretty much lost as soon as Grack claimed. But he doesn't lose 100% in this scenario. He can tie or he can win if town plays kingmaker. On December 18 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: And what would he say if he is town? He would try his darndest to get Grack Lynched TODAY. This way everything is cleared up and we have scum to lynch tomorrow. The longer he keeps Grack alive, the more likely he makes it to the endgame. yeah no. No to what?
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On December 18 2013 05:03 Plutarch wrote: And yet you are saying that I am sk cause I want to lynch grack TOMORROW. Of course. If we lynch Grack today, you will be lynched tomorrow and you will lose the game. If we lynch Grack tomorrow, U have a shot.
See and this is why Ur SK. Cause u know my analysis above is correct and you're pretending you don't.
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