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On December 15 2013 03:12 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JJD the problem is i kinda get Vayne. He uses a lot of absolutes in his posts and when he explained those "scumslips" he meant it differently than how we read it. It's also his behavior. Vayne is way more tryhard and cooperative as mafia. When he is town he does like policy lynches, especially Slam, i totally get that from him and the whole attitude towards Slam. When people accuse him he basically says "fuck you" to all of them and does not even try to be reasonable. He goes "lynch me fuckers, here are my reads i don't care if you listen to me or not and i am not going to defend myself".
That's exactly what he is doing in this game, and it's not what he does as mafia. As mafia he cares about his team winning and pushes scum agenda and that's definitely not what he is doing here. Well and not to mention pregame bitterness, Rayne... He is obviously town almost on the same level as Blazinghand. K, already pointed this out but I don't understand how Slam can say that Vayne is almost as obviously town as the confirmed vig and then vote him for any reason whatsoever.
Here's his explaination:
On December 15 2013 06:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 06:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
k now some one try and explain what alakaslam just tried to do, plz. Tried to make sure you were lynched before LSB if it was gonna be those wagons. I didn't have confidence in Rayne, his word is now strong with me. Well not sure why he'd want Vayne lynched before LSB. Did he have an even bigger townread on LSB?
But let's forget about his vayne townread for a minute. So he wanted to make sure Vayne got lynched before LSB did? Well here's the votecount when he made his switch:On December 15 2013 05:56 Aquanim wrote:Vote Count purpletrator (6): raynpelikoneet, Plutarch, ArtanisXp, VayneAuthority, Alakaslam, Xatalos VayneAuthority (4): JarJarDrinks, xigxag, sidesprang, LSB LSB (2): Kushm4sta, Coagulation xigxag (1): Blazinghand Xatalos (1): Grackaroni raynpelikoneet (1): purpletrator NOT VOTING: Nobody Currently Purpletrator is set to be lynched. Let me know if I missed anyone!
Deadline is in WTF? LSB had 2 votes. And Slam didn't even change his vote to Vayne. He changed it to xigxag.
I just can't see any reason for that vote change other than trying to save purple.
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And that votecount was posted on the same page as his switch. So he should have been aware of how the votes stood.
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On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote? Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig. Again. If he'd prefer purple, then why would he take his vote off him when he has the lead?
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Purple wasn't forced to vote Vayne. He could have just stayed away from the thread. He showed up last minute to try and save himself.
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Also, my money is on Grack as SK. Since he really hasn't seemed to care about the lynches. As evidenced by the fact that he voted for vayne day 1 but on day 2 he specifically said he refused to do so w/o giving any reason.
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On December 16 2013 05:51 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 05:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Purple wasn't forced to vote Vayne. He could have just stayed away from the thread. He showed up last minute to try and save himself. He showed up, tried to save himself, and then was forced to vote for vayne last minute. sure he could have stayed away. Also he could have corssvoted vayne to try and make vayne look good. Which is what he was doing.
How did he try to save himself? He showed up 4 minutes before lynchtime. There was no alternative wagon. There was zero benefit to him showing up and voting his scumbuddy. Vayne was already gonna look great after the lynch.
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Oh, well cop claim changes things. Now I'm less inclined to believe vayne.
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I'm confused. Are u claiming cop or not?
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On December 16 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
i was, but as he pointed out it doesn't make any sense at all. so guess ill just die
So, ur claiming scum?
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On December 16 2013 12:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
No im 100% town. just trying to figure out ways I can avoid being lynched And you think fakeclaiming cop was a good idea? You didn't consider the possibility of getting countered and outing the real cop?
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Vayne, how old are you? You can't be older than like 15 right?
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Anyway. Can't get anymore scummy than the fake cop claim. I think he's way more likely to flip SK though
##vote Vayne
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Going to bed. Will check out Xat tomorrow. I've had him as scummy most of this game but never really near the top of my reads. So that might actually make sense for a SK. Other people I think we should consider lynching: sidesprig, Grack, Slam.
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@Xat - You really think all that Purple/LSB interaction was faked? LSB pushed really hard for Purps lynch.
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On December 17 2013 04:49 LSB wrote:
Current Scum Team Reads willing to bandwagon anyone in this list who is put up to the lynch:
Xatalos/SideSprang/Alakaslam/purpletrator This is exactly what I have too.
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W/ Grack as SK for what I pointed out about how he voted vayne day 1 but day 2 refused to do so w/o giving any reason and then let his vote just waste even though he was in thread @ the deadline.
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On December 17 2013 11:12 Plutarch wrote:
Trust me guys. I am really really positive that Xatalos is the correct lynch.
Yeah, I agree. ##Vote Xatalos
Slam has actually changed my mind w/ his last batch of posts. I think I may be leaning town on him now.
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Like I said, I'm not so sure about Slam anymore. The vote switch was a dumb risk for him to take. Like he coordinated w/ his scumbuddy to vote snipe which not only would look incredibly suspicious, but after rechecking, it didn't actually help save purple @ the time.
@ no point after purple took the lead was vayne is danger of being lynched. Purple was up in votes 6 to 4. After Slam and Purple switched, it became 5 to 5 w/ purple still set to be lynched.
Since Slam was making such a risky scum play, why wouldn't he have switched to vayne to actually try and save purple?
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On December 18 2013 00:13 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't think JJD would have been so vocal about asking the hosts if scum could have hit HF aswell if he was mafia. This is also interesting and could implicate SK: On December 15 2013 06:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, guess I was wrong about vayne. No way that was a 2 scum race.
Slam looks pretty terrible after trying to vote snipe. I think Grack looks pretty bad too wasting his vote when he was clearly here.
Rayn and Plu obv town. Post all Ur reads tonight since one of u is prob gonna die. Why does he assume one of us is going to die on N2, the medic was dead and there was no reason to assume 2 medics. Cause he is thinking in terms of having one KP and he is going to hit one of the towniest members cause he is scum. He doesn;t know who SK is going to hit. because SK may not want to hit town at that point. Rayn. JJD is mafia. 100% I'm confused. How is it not incredibly obvious that scum is gonna go after one of you 2? I don't understand how this indicates a scum mindset.
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