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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:32 GMT
#1044
LSB seems pretty lurky and apathetic towards the lynch so far. He's definitely someone worth careful observing.

I'm glad that other people can see why Cora is suspicious.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:37 GMT
#1045
On December 11 2013 22:31 Plutarch wrote:
Xatalos are you around? what do you think of a spag lynch now?


On my phone, but yes.

I'm not sure because I got a townish vibe from those posts I mentioned earlier. His lack of scumhunting really does make him look more scummy, though. It'd be preferable to Alakaslam, and since it looks like Artanis is not happening today, or probably purple/Cora, it seems like a decent choice in this situation.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:48 GMT
#1048
I should reread XigXag when I get home. For now, my preferred option would be either purple or Cora. Which one do you think is more scummy? I should reread both as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 13:58 GMT
#1050
Well sidesprang, what IS your read on Artanis..?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 14:05 GMT
#1052
Going to be in an exam for a couple of hours soon, but I should be back sometime before deadline.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#1254
Back ASAP, but must be be AFK for maybe 30min.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:24 GMT
#1271
On December 12 2013 05:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Don't have much time now but I see support for a Spaghetti lynch and I'm happy to join in on that. Bandwagon powers activate!
##Unvote
##Vote Spaghetticus


Lol. This is probably the most bandwagony vote so far.

Catching up.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#1283
purpletrator, I see you started to contribute...

On December 12 2013 02:52 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
where is the contradiction?

You know that I'm pushing him as a mislynch in the thread, killing him as a night kill is pure WIFOM. Completely unrelated.

You said you'd never kill him, then you said you'd NK him to make the game more fun for yourself. Direct and absolute contradiction (that I do not find scummy, but its there).


I actually like this post, since I also don't think it was a scummy contradiction. Could someone explain what's so scummy about it?

On December 12 2013 05:18 purpletrator wrote:
cora better have notes....
##Unvote: Corazon
##Vote: Spaghetticus


But this vote I don't like. purple doesn't even mention that he's suspicious of spag and suddenly hops on the bandwagon...

purple, why did you vote Spag?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:41 GMT
#1293
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:45 GMT
#1303
On December 12 2013 05:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.

Bussing exists that's why I linked greyhound.


That's true.

Since it seems to be between Spag and VA, I agree that Spag is the better choice.

##Unvote
##Vote Spaghetticus
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:49 GMT
#1308
On December 12 2013 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.

The problem is not the voters. I have the same problem (well not really with purple, as he basically chose between spag/vayne)...

It's that Spag is so fucking scummy and the evidence is far better than on vayne.


I'm not still sure why VA is #2 in votes. Apparently he contradicted himself, but why is he scum just for that? It's not like he needed to talk about how he'd love to NK / lynch Alakaslam.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:51 GMT
#1312
On December 12 2013 05:43 Corazon wrote:
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?


?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:52 GMT
#1314
On December 12 2013 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:49 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.

The problem is not the voters. I have the same problem (well not really with purple, as he basically chose between spag/vayne)...

It's that Spag is so fucking scummy and the evidence is far better than on vayne.


I'm not still sure why VA is #2 in votes. Apparently he contradicted himself, but why is he scum just for that? It's not like he needed to talk about how he'd love to NK / lynch Alakaslam.

Yes he needed, did you read?
I confronted him about his thoughts on lynching Slam.


I read through pretty fast. Gonna reread that portion.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 20:53 GMT
#1315
On December 12 2013 05:51 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 Corazon wrote:
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?


?

Do you have some sort of win-con to call everyone scum?


Do you have some sort of a win-con to call scum everyone who call you scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1329
On December 12 2013 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:52 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:49 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.

The problem is not the voters. I have the same problem (well not really with purple, as he basically chose between spag/vayne)...

It's that Spag is so fucking scummy and the evidence is far better than on vayne.


I'm not still sure why VA is #2 in votes. Apparently he contradicted himself, but why is he scum just for that? It's not like he needed to talk about how he'd love to NK / lynch Alakaslam.

Yes he needed, did you read?
I confronted him about his thoughts on lynching Slam.


I read through pretty fast. Gonna reread that portion.

ALso this:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is another one.
On December 11 2013 13:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
I hope he flips town so I am actually justified in saying that he is hindering the game. If he's scum he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Read that portal game by greymist if you want to see how hard it is to lynch this guy as scum. His entire team bussed him and he still barely got lynched. nuff said.

On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.

... i really don't get it.. i really don't...



................. Okay.

It seems like rayn forced VA into this situation where he started to contradict himself. I take it back that it would be unnecessary for him to post this stuff. Clearly there's something wrong with his mindset.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#1335
On the other hand... I'm still not sure why he's scum for these.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#1337
Hmmm.

That was a mess of a deadline. I'm sure the vote swings tell something though (unlike with a Alakaslam lynch).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:07 GMT
#1342
On December 12 2013 06:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
the irony of the 2 people most wanting to kill alakaslam being up for lynch.

[image loading]


I hope you agree that this lynch was far more informative than policy lynching Alakaslam. He can be policy Vigi'd equally well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:15 GMT
#1354
On December 12 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 06:04 Xatalos wrote:
Hmmm.

That was a mess of a deadline. I'm sure the vote swings tell something though (unlike with a Alakaslam lynch).

So do you or do you not think vayne is mafia? Or wtf is this about?


Not really at the moment. I'm trying to figure out how exactly he became the runner-up for the lynch.

1) You pressure him
2) He starts making weird and contradictory arguments
3) Several people jump on him

I didn't like his posts, but I wouldn't say they warrant an immediate lynch. Since you pressured him first, it's possible that he just messed up and "scumslipped" by revealing an inconsistent thought process. But... Somehow I think it's more likely that scum would think about what they say more carefully. And he seems to believe what he's saying, or at least he's persistent.

Do you think he's scum at the moment?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#1359
On December 12 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 06:07 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 06:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
the irony of the 2 people most wanting to kill alakaslam being up for lynch.
...deleted the image...


I hope you agree that this lynch was far more informative than policy lynching Alakaslam. He can be policy Vigi'd equally well.

I mean this post. What are you expecting Vayne to answer? "Yeah this this and this guy are scummy for defending scum"?
He was the fucking counterwagon, regardless of his alignment he didn't learn or "didn't learn" anything.


Mostly I referred to those who suddenly bandwagoned Spag out of the blue. With Alakaslam something like that wouldn't really be weird. He was a policy lynch candidate after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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