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Hmm, there are three things I dont like about the claim.
1. He did not leave any breadcrumbs for like the first idk 30 hours of this day, and also they were very weak. The breadcrum on Vayne I buy tho. Would be a very nice breadcrumb.
2. Why did you claim? We were gonna lynch Xata = confirmed scum, and Xata tried to "talk" to the SK and told him that Scum were gonna lynch SK (aka plutarch). So if you kept quiet, we would have lynchd xata, and woken up to only 1 kill from SK tomorrow, no mafia kills and an alive Plutarch. Your case against plutarch tomorrow would have been foolproof, no way he could have defended himself against that if you claimed tomorrow.
3. There was no way you were gonna die this night. So you could have gotten one more safe check without problems.
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##Vote Grack
Things deffo did not go down the way I thought it would. But it seems like SK helped us out a fair bit. If what grack is saying is true, we have a 2/3 chance of winning. The SK have to be between me/LSB/JJD. I'm more suspect of JJD tho its mostly my gut, I will try to find something by some filterdiving.
Also is it possible to shorten the days? I kinda feel we got the game almost solved and we dont need to use a week or whatever on finding out who is SK between us 3.
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Is it posssible to shorten the last days somehow? Mb do a poll and see if everyone is for it.
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On December 19 2013 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If we could rule out one of sidespring/LSB/JJD it would be cool because it would ensure we win..
Not you too, SidesprAng god damnit.
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I'm not cop. And I don't think cop should claim either. Atleast not before 1 minute until next day.
If grack is telling truth and cop is either JJD or LSB we win (should still not claim yet because grack can be lying), if cop is not JJD or LSB then we have a chance of losing. Hopefuly cop have some usefull chekcs, altho we cant really trust them since there is a possibility that SK is green on checks. But it's gonna be like 2/3 chance of winning and hopefully we can use some logic and cop reads to figure it out a bit better.
If grack is lying, the SK can be any of us 5, and then we need to rely on cop even more. Therefor he should deffo not claim before the last minute so the chance of him surviving untill tomorrow is pretty good. Cop knows best who he has checked or not, and I dont think it's wise to guide a cop who to check, since SK get bigger chance of hitting that check.
Tho pretty much how this goes down, I think our chances are good. Moral of this post, cop dont claim before the last minute to increase your chance of staying alive and getting another check which we might need.
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Ok, I am the cop. Did not want to claim yesterday, since I wanted to get one final check out before I died.
My checks are:
Night 1: LSB = green
Night 2: Slam = green
Night 3: Artanis = red
This supports the theory of grack telling the truth and slam / rayn not being SK. Which I still think will be the best plan of action going forward. If we assume he told the truth the game is won and we just need to kill JJD and LSB.
If we dont wanna assume he told the truth the SK can be between LSB, JJD, Slam and Rayn. Tbh I would still wanna lynch LSB and JJD if it came down to those four. They deffo seem to be the best SK candidates in my eyes and after I did some small amount of filterdiving yesterday.
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Gimmi my check before you leave please 
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Nice Rayn is SK, really well played man
##vote Rayn
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Yes I checked him, he is the SK. Town wins!
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Don't worry, I know you dont like me. But he is SK and we win when he comes and surrender or at next lynch
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I dont TBH I liked the heat I had on me, I felt very safe from the evil guys because of it
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Thanks for hosting the game, was fun to play mafia again
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On December 22 2013 10:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also really did not like the N2 end, i was hoping the cop to cliam so i could shoot them on N3. I think it was quite poorly handled and might have cost me the game.
I assume you are talking about N3? I dont think i would have claimed, I was really struggling with it, cause I felt pretty safe from getting killed. I had a post ready tho just in case I decided to post 1 minute before. When Sent posted
On December 19 2013 05:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
NP
I panicked a bit and was wondering If I was still allowed to post, but I got a PM 21:42 saying he was gonna do the night post at 21:45. I kinda just timed out going back and forth on what to do. It might have been different if I had those 15 minutes to post, but atleast the lack of claim was not because I was not there yet or anything.
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Just go sign DP
Link to Rayn + DP town game!
And game was good, but Day 3 kinda ruined it a bit. 3 modkills and 2 mafia basically outing themselves. Not much to be done for the modkills tho. I thought they were all fair.
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On December 22 2013 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
Wow great blue play this game. Amazing cop checks and great heals.
Might be 4 of the best cop checks I've seen, also associated with the fact sidesprang played in a fashion that never really got him closed to being lynched or shot by mafia. Really well done actually.
Way to much praise. I can explain my play a bit and you will see it was not that good
Basically I'm a really new player. I played some games like 3 years ago because I think the concept is really cool. I was really bad and it was hard to play. Kinda like how I feel now, you will see in a game where I'm VT. I've watched like all the esports mafia streams and that is why I got back into the game. I also read the newbie guide and I thought I would try to be a not so active town, but rather make bigger posts and try to make good points.
Then on Day 1 I notice I get the cop role, I thought yay cool. Now I just need to act towny and survive for a few days so I can get some important checks in. My first post was a disaster and tbh it was very forced, I kinda just posted cause I wanted to contribute in some way. What I had was very little and I got called out pretty hard for it. I felt so bad and thought I just fucked the town over so bad by playing a retarded cop. Luckily most of the heat went away, dunno if it was because of my defence or they just felt there was bigger fish to fry.
Anyhow with most of the heat gone, I realized I could not really play that way. So on day 2 I just read peoples filters instead and went with my gut feeling. While doing this I noticed that people did not really go after me that much (except LSB which I just found kinda funny after a while, especially since I knew he was green).
So you can say, that my good town position was the result of a really bad start, and some damage control and adjusting.
Checks:
For my checks I did not want to check VA which was my biggest scumread because if I did and he came back green then I would have to stop going after him, and tbh I dont think I could have played that without painting a cop mark on my back. I liked tunneling him and I felt my points on him were valid even if he would have been misslynched D1 or D2 no one could really say I was scum because of it.
I decided to check LSB first night, but I dont really remember why.
I checked Slam because I had no idea what he was, and his voting just made it all more confusing. I felt a cop check is the only way to figure it out, so I did.
Night 3 I only had 2 real options in my mind. JJD and Artanis. I thought Artanis was way more likely to come up green, and that JJD would come up red. I felt JJD would most likely get lynched after grack anyhow, so I prefered to get a green check on Artanis. If he however came up red I would have to intervene and prolly claim. So I'm really glad he died that night,
The night 4 check was easy. the only two I could check was Rayn and JJD. I was kinda certain that JJD or LSB would be the SK. And the only thing that convince me otherwise would be a black check on Rayn, which I got. If he had selected investigation immunity it would have been tough. JJD would have died for sure, and flipped green. And making a case on rayn against the others would have been to hard I think.
TLDR: I fluked my way into a really good cop position, and I just tried to stay there. Which was not really hard cause it mostly meant that I did not have to post much I'm happy with the checks, dunno if ppl think the N3 one is greedy but I thought it was the best check at the time atleast.
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