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raynpelikoneet
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I see you "don't like" Artanis either. Do you think he's less scummy than purple? What about Corazon? What's the purpose of this? If you have read my filter and know who's my vote on you'd know the answers to these questions. Also what do you think of Grackaroni's answer to my case on purple? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote: Your vote is on purpletrator, so I'd assume you think he's the scummiest. What I meant to say is: what's your opinion on Artanis and Corazon at the moment? Hmmm. I don't really understand what Grackaroni is saying. Apparently he means to refute your case by saying it's obvious.......... Well, I guess he means that it's just stating the obvious and not much of a case. Weird to randomly point that out though. And why would being obvious make a case "weak", I really wonder. My thoughts on Artanis have not really changed since i last posted them (after the "i don't like him" post). I agree with what Plutarch said about Corazon as i said, i don't think anything else in his posting is scummy. Grackaroni basically does not even address my case because it's not about if purple is clueless or not. That's scummy as hell. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 21:55 Plutarch wrote: Is it wrong to be paranoid about scum rayne right now? Yeah it is, but elaborate plz. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:00 Xatalos wrote: Well, I think he's certainly being more productive than he was in GoT Mafia (as Mafia). There he was mostly just distracting and hindering the discussion. I guess his string of posts about my meta is a bit like that, but there are also valid points in that (unlike most of what he talked/spammed about in GoT). I'm still slightly paranoid after GoT, though. Could you elaborate more on that because afaik i did never try to "distract people's read on you" as you seem to be implying here. I was not calling you scum for what i posted. I was calling out people who gave an incorrect meta-read on you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 22:02 Grackaroni wrote: That is the entirety of your case. You said he had a shitty reason for a vote/unvote. He thinks that LSB not reading his comment somehow makes LSB scum and that LSB wanting him to reveal his identity is scummy. I agree that his vote is stupid. That is all that you have shown. dumb does not always equal scum. My case on purple is that his interactions with LSB have no intention in proving his towniness or figuring out LSB's alignment. You certainly are misrepresenting the case intentionally or do not understand it. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:13 Plutarch wrote: You played like this in persona 4. that is what I am worried about I guess. Afaik i was town in that game and not really, no, i did not play like this. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 03 2013 12:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: No worries Bereft i played like shit. On December 03 2013 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I promise i will never be this bad in a mafia game ever. On December 03 2013 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are referring to me i do know exactly what i did wrong. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:20 Plutarch wrote: Catch 22. Is the game I meant. Well if you think i am playing like in that game you have no worries as i will still lynch scum on D1. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:22 Grackaroni wrote: sell your case Rayn. I think my case is pretty clear and i think you should comment on my conclusions instead of the posts i quote. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:34 Plutarch wrote: Nothing much really. just thinking aloud mostly. Clearly you are very townie right now. What do you think about this sheep train of distrust rayn? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 22:42 Plutarch wrote: We aren't going to lynch you. You are too big of an asset as town to even think about lynching you for at least 2 days. So i'm not worried. If people try and lynch you I will talk sense into them. Your cases make sense. I wouldn't be worried if I was you. As to the sheeping. Townies sheep at least as often as scum. I'm not worried about getting lynched because i don't get lynched if i don't want to (i.e. when i stay level-headed). I am worried about people trying to affect my level-headness by spreading distrust on my alignment without any reason to do so while having a "reasonable" meta-reasoning to "wonder if this is in fact town rayn". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 22:49 Holyflare wrote: GRACK how is his case bad in any shape or form? This post alone could just be an entire case and it would be fine, I've highlighted the relevant bit for you (yes all of it). Purple states that his vote on LSB was because he was neglecting to read posts about the target he was on. He then justifies his unvote by saying that he has read an ongoing game - where he does NOT know LSB's alignment - and he does the same thing. What logical thought process is that? TL:DR He does not know LSB's alignment in PYP so how can he unvote based on that game unless he knows his alignment in this one. It's not even a matter of if he knows LSB's alignment in that game. Whatever his alignment in PYP is if he does something he did there in this game it does not make him any alignment here. If he does "miss key points in posts" as town, he could as easily miss them as scum and vice versa. It's a weak ass backpedal from a vote that was weak-ass in the first place (as i clearly pointed out in my case). The whole interaction between purple and LSB does not make any sense because nothing purple says is can't evolve into an alignment indicative answer from LSB and he does not even give a clear read on LSB after the interaction. He is not interested in finding out LSB's alignment -> what's the point of the conversation? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 22:55 kushm4sta wrote: Maybe he does know LSB's alignment?? really inappropriate for anyone to talk about that game at all. That's another point, as i said. You can't even say if you agree/disagree with his meta-read.... How fucking stupid is that? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 23:01 Grackaroni wrote: I don't understand why you would reasonably expect somebody who gives an accusation of, "he didn't see my post? Now I know the truth. He is not trolling; he is scum" to make a lot of posts that would be helpful in finding out others alignment. Because he is a smurf! He's supposed to know how to play this game! People who are supposed to know how to play this game do not as town: 1) Ask questions / make arguments that do not contribute towards scumhunting. 2) Reason their reads / voting / unvoting with something noone is not even allowed to question or with something they are not even allowed to talk about more themselves and that is btw bullshit and non-alignemnt indicative. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 10 2013 23:19 Xatalos wrote: rayn, comment on this. Do you think what Artanis is saying makes any sense? I think what he says about Cora's posting makes sense. I don't understand you two going against each other because both of yours original reasons were not good imo and now it has turned into an OMGUS war from what it looks like to me. You are both kinda missing the point and arguing about something that's clearly not alignment indicative. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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To me it looks like you are both missing the original point and arguing about something that is already explained by the other one of you and i don't think what you are arguing about makes either of you scum. | ||
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