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Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 09 2013 23:33 GMT
#296
Care to tell me why Kush?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 09 2013 23:41 GMT
#300
Are you actually doing this? Checking to see if there's actually any pressure on you before considering whether or not to play seriously?

...
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#311
Xatalos why should Kush be the first target? At least Kush is honest and not junking up the thread?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#325
@Slam
I know you want to foster a particular meta-climate for yourself, but you should know that I will do all in my power to make you play seriously. For my sanity's sake at least quit with the obnoxious spam. I'd honestly prefer you stopped posting entirely rather than keep posting that junk. Not only are you costing your team a player, you're taking my objectivity with it. Knowing that I will not stop, your continued trolling will be considered deliberately distracting town, which is actually scummy.

Cease. Please.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 00:27 GMT
#330
We must pool our denunciations to finally overthrow the troll overlord.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#334
I'm still fuzzy. I haven't confirmed anyone town in my mind as easily as I did last game, nor have I got strong scum reads (I don't really believe in strong reads at this point in the game anyway).

TBH I'm sort of just hawking the thread and responding to people ad lib. I'm not taking much out of it, I'm pretty clueless from sleep dep. I'm about to hit the hay now (at midday :/). And will reread when I wake up. Hopefully Lurkers/trolls have stopped lurking/trolling, and I can have a clear run through the thread.

Weak answer I know. I'm not worried though. I don't think I'll have a problem bringing game with me when I get back.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 10:23 GMT
#535
On December 10 2013 15:53 xigxag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 15:49 Plutarch wrote:
Basically there is no way you can have a town read on kush and have it be meaningful or based on solid analysis, or any analysis at all.


Or I am better than you. I have the read and you have not refuted it.


This post took far too long to track down. :/

Pluto is a good player.

If that's not obvious to you yet then you should probably just assume that he's better because you're bad.

Your reasons for finding Kush town are non-existent, he's right to point this out. That you appeal to possible authority rather than give actual reasoning also looks poorly for you.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 10:27 GMT
#536
PANDAIN

Get in here.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 10:41 GMT
#541
On December 10 2013 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well lately i always make a case on scum on D1 so you guys can just sheep me.


Wat. No.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 11:12 GMT
#563
On December 10 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plutarch after doing some research you need to elaborate on this:
Show nested quote +
I am not convinced by this push on Xatalos. In my experience he is more likely to take a back seat as scum than to jump around driving discussion.

In which game(s) do you base your observations you are talking about here?


You've done research?

I'll give you a free green read if you can provide a synopsis of your findings in a timely fashion.

(and a red one if you can't)
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 11:23 GMT
#571
Kush makes sense, but in the wrong direction. Why do we care so much about who he is?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#581
Stop it. It's a waste of time and now you're distracting others.

Any read you get on him will be plausibly deniable. There is no way you will improve your reads by obsessing over his identity. Meta-reads are already dubious (though still useful), adding an extra layer of probability (you being correct in your read on him) renders them obsolete. It's got about the same chance of being successful as a D1 association case.

I've already made adjustments on my lean for both of you based on this distraction. If you are town you won't want me getting further confused no?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:16 GMT
#612
On December 10 2013 21:05 Plutarch wrote:
Spag who do you think is scummy? Do you have any town reads? You haven't really contributed much at all.


So far I've got a town on you, and a town on HF (despite him partaking in the search for your identity, which hurt him).

My two biggest reds atm are Corazon and XigXag, though I need to review their filter.

I've got no profound insight yet. Generally I'm clueless for awhile until I come across true scumsign, then go balls deep.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:27 GMT
#621
On December 10 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's drop this since it's not leading into anything that can certainly be judged into a way or another (unless someone disagrees).

Grackaroni and Xatalos comments on my case on purple?
Spaghetticus i second Plutarch. In LXIII you were quite clearly town from your posting on D1. I don't see even a shoadow from that towninees here. What are you doing?


I haven't got traction yet.

In that game VE was so clearly not town it physically hurt me to see him elected. I'm still in a bit of a fugue tbh.

This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game.

I've got plenty of time though, so I don't think my weak start will be an issue.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:33 GMT
#626
I was specifically asked the difference between this game and last. No need to go out of your way to be dismissive.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:37 GMT
#628
I gave you that bit for free. Sue me.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:46 GMT
#636
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2013 21:37 Holyflare wrote:
As for spag:


Lack of sleep evolved into fugue.

Spag I killed you last game because we were blue sniping, the reason was that you were posting in a townie style but NOT ENOUGH content to appear too towny. If you want to change your game, now is the time to do it but don't scale back you need to go balls to the wall town play. Weak starts are always always always an issue. We don't know your alignment and your start suggests that you aren't doing anything to persuade us in the positive direction in general. All I've seen is your posts on Slam and that's pretty much it.

You told us you didn't like our posts trying to find out whose smurfing, yet, you provided no alternate direction for us to garner our attention. Why was that?


You say you have plenty of time but why is that? You have no content and you could be a real contender for a lynch.



I was pretty town bro. But it's a non-issue, I stated that wasn't the real reason I'm performing less well.

I've been looking, but nothing has come up strongly. You pressuring me won't change that.

I didn't need to provide an alternate direction, there are already several trains of thought running. I wanted to shut this one down quickly so I did.

I say I have plenty of time? Yes, yes I do. I don't understand the question.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#640
That's fair.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:56 GMT
#646
Wait is XigXag new? I thought he was a smurf?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
December 10 2013 12:58 GMT
#648
Why would he assume he was better than you if he were new?
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