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On November 30 2013 13:19 austinmcc wrote: I took this to mean that not ALL champion abilities are known. So I think we're safe banning out abilities that are ALWAYS anti-town, but we can't rely on banning out a certain thing meaning that it cannot exist. Well that kind of stinks, how do we ban based on half info >_> | ||
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I agree with whoever said that we should probably just not ban Graves/ Talon/ obvious mafia roles and just lynch people who pick them. There are a couple combos for Mafia that are pretty nasty that we should bust though, like the Ashe + WW that was mentioned. So in any case, I'll: ## unvote ## vote ashe for now | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:36 Koshi wrote: If people are wondering why I wont be posting much. 1) I am awesome. 2) I am first pick and got Viktor. I will make items that are pro town. 3) I crumbed my player name. 4) I crumbed my LoL team. 5) I am awesome. BKB plz | ||
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Did we ever find out exactly how HP works in this game? Does everyone have the same amount? | ||
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On December 03 2013 03:53 LSB wrote: Why we need you to roleclaim We need you to roleclaim in order to lock down who has what roles so that they are not misused. Ultimately as the game goes on, roles will be revealed by the process of elimination, however we need to lock down what roles do what early so they cannot be misused. I applaud Kurumi for roleclaiming so early due to the importance of his role. However there are many other roles that we need to find out because they are so dangerous. A lot of these roles can wreak a ton of havoc should they be allowed free reign for a few nights, and even possibly wreak havoc on the nights after. I want to remind you all in a mass power role game the mafia has an advantage in that they can easily coordinate their actions as well as keep track of everyone else’s actions. That’s why I feel it is important for someone (ie me) to keep track of all claims as I’m sure the mafia is doing that too, and find out roles to break the mafia advantage in being able to coordinate their actions easily. I am not currently going to the extreme that we will need to dictate your actions at night. Right now it is very important to figure out what we are working with. If you take 300 damage at night, we need to know how it was caused, rather than stare helplessly as we all die. Koshi [2][1] - Viktor Kurumi [4][6] - Warwick VisceraEyes [5][4] - Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] JonnyLaw [14][11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] - VT? Rean [16][2] ?-> VT bumatlarge [16][12] -> BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claim gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shen kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere geript can't be Warwick, Kurumi already got it. >_> I spent the last couple days researching my hunch that Rayn was scum, but he seems okay based on past games (apart from not calling town absolute shit this game). | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: LSB - Could you do some scumhunting instead of just mindlessly yelling everyone to massclaim? Like i know it's the best idea but when people are not willing to do it there is nothing you can do about it. Right now it seems like you are intentionally shouting for an idea that's pro-town but what you can never achieve. What's the point? ticklishmusic - Elaborate on your earlier scumread on me and why did it change. Right the only thing in this game you have done is that you claimed the have had a scumread on the towniest guy in thread, didn't explian it ever and then retracted from it. In addition to this, who do you think is scum now? A bit late to reply, but anywho... I'm a little iffy on you anointing yourself the towniest person here. But you're generally being abrasive like the other games you played as townie, so seems about right (now anyways).  I'm leaning geript and kush as scum right now, I think LSB is fine though. The case against kush is a bit stronger than the one against geript IMO. Kush started late, filtered, gave his rulings on scum/not scum, then has been bandwagoning on whatever is FOTM in the thread. First he was all like KILL KURUMI and now hes like "well, the dude is proooooobably town". On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote: gl with that opinion. im voting you now. On December 03 2013 10:18 kushm4sta wrote: We definitely shouldn't be killing kurumi. He is probably town IMO. What is the meta that marv said made gtsrs scummy? And other good lynches? | ||
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Also, he was a little late to the gtrsrs train, we talked about it, then he brings it up out of le blue | ||
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Its like 3AM and Im going to bed. I'm new to TL Mafia, so I need to do a lot of background reading for past games instead of just clogging the thread with random stuff like I do in the TLLOLOTT so I'll be posting pretty infrequently. Might ramp up if 1. I don't die and 2. I get the hang of this filter thing. | ||
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Obviously not doing it now, might be worth looking at the behavior of people who replaced/were replaced, see how those posting patterns compare. Just a thought. | ||
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okay im going to bed... as soon my damn archer tower finishes in clash of clans. | ||
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On December 03 2013 20:43 marvellosity wrote: My issue with ticklish being mafia is: 1.I believe he went away and read rayn towngames. Lazy lurky mafia won't usually do this 2.He actually found inconsistency in kush's filter. Now this doesn't make kush mafia obviously, but it does mean tickling was attentive enough to notice 3.his posts have a IDGAF feel about them. more or less i'm kind of trying, but i'm new to this thing so i can't tryhard too much or i look dumb obv rayn is going awfully hard against me, lol. honestly, i just posted my initial thoughts on him so i wouldn't be 5ever a lurker. and if my comments on kush were so damn obvious though, why didn't anyone else, you know, say it before me? oh poo i probably shouldnt have posted this since we moved on to another topic. now rayn is gonna dump on me some more. | ||
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i still think that kush is scummy. johnny made an interesting point about it (found it while i was filtering him cuz i was wondering why people wanted to lynch him): On December 03 2013 06:59 JonnyLaw wrote: Kush I like you just fine as a person I'm certain. I don't like you reacting to being called scum with a "im voting you!" It's an odd reaction to me. Childish or trolling I don't know. I think OWB rolled scum and quit. Straight up. Your play isn't convincing me otherwise. I agree with you that Kurumi's trying to lead the town while not actually saying anything outside of game policy and how we should be playing. There's not a lot of substance aside from when he's asked directly or arguing with you. Maybe you two have some problem I wasn't aware of before this game. Sandroba I'll do it next. | ||
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though i dislike omgus-ing as a matter of policy because it doesn't help town at all and just clogs up the info stream. its a lot more scum friendly than town friendly. | ||
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You know, like my gems. Okay I'll stop posting now. | ||
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On December 04 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So ticklishmusic do you mind explaining how you took 2 days to go through my old games but forgot to send in draft numbers? Why did you not prioritize that over reading someone you had never commented on before in the game? Actually why did you priorizise ANYTHING over picking draft numbers because that was the most important thing to do on D0? at first it was because i was new to this kind of mafia and didn't understand 100% how everything worked. and then it was kind of that i was too lazy to strategically plan out what place i wanted, because i didn't actually care all that much about what champ i got. since it was the end-ish of thanksgiving break for me, i've also been travelling around a lot-- i've been ramping up my posting and reading a lot more since. i have never played a mafia game this complicated (to clarify because i'm sure you're going to grill me on this, i've played a lot of more traditional mafia before) so i would have been perfectly fine with being vanilla townie/mafia/doctor/whatever straightforward role so i could focus on just analysis. /shrug | ||
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this has the benefit of 1. confirming lsb as tryn 2. im taric but, supposing jay + me are in cahoots as mafia, we can break that by spinning slashing through multiple people, jay can dodge as ez, and i heal whoever unless the bottom 5 of us are all mafia. you tell LSB where to spin to. we prove 3 role claims, i heal them up the next two nights or galio + whoever else can help me do that. | ||
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Buuuuut I really liked bum's poem which, well, honestly doesn't say much except PLZ I DON'T WANT TO DIE. I would also expect a more vigorous defense from him. Overall though I'm a little annoyed at how disorganized picking was though. :/ | ||
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On December 04 2013 11:23 bumatlarge wrote: Kassadin is a selective Roleblocker, aside from Viktor, it's the strongest role for both sides. If it is in town's hands and he doesn't claim, it's good for town obviously, but we shouldn't have ignored BC and my sentiments that certain roles need to be known and on whom. If scum has kassadin, thats basically a dead blue power for town 100% of the time. If town has kassadin and I rolecheck that person, I'm going to claim or him and try to lynch him in a vacuum. Wait what role are you claiming again? | ||
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I'm a little confused, I thought someone else had Lux... so why is he phrasing it like he is 1. Not about to die 2. Lux | ||
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Re: Roffles Apart from that one post where he told gtr to off himself, he's been contributing though. I'm also curious about this interaction between Roffles, kush and Oats, dunno how much I read into it. Roffles basically accuses kush of being scum, kush says no and then kind of defends Roffles by calling Oats dumb. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=66#1314 | ||
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Also, I decided to look over a couple of his old games (Noir and Golden Sun) and he seems to do a lot of meta reads on people, which he hasn't done here at all. He even brags about it at the end of GS: On September 28 2013 02:10 kushm4sta wrote: Bh what was the point of that smurf? Because you are afraid of my meta skills? + Show Spoiler + Also, this smiley:  | ||
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On December 05 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think kushmasta's play is different than in both of those games? He blames inactivity in Noir mostly so I'm not basing my read off that as much. Then in GS he's screaming about how he knows everything, doing meta reads, etc. It's pretty different from how he's been here. We can discount the profanity because of his frustration for being ignored there. However, no meta reads even playing with a similar cohort is rather suspicious, as is asking questions but rarely offering his own analysis. The trolling/ whatever is normal enough, but there's no analysis sprinkled in between those comments. | ||
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Spoilered because I don't want it to clog the thread, but srs I'm annoyed. + Show Spoiler + The ONE thing I liked about kush was this quote: On August 21 2013 11:49 kushm4sta wrote: yo rayne you should smoke weed instead of drink alcohol then maybe you woulnd't be such an asshat Just stop. It's pretty irritating that you absolutely won't let go of the fact I suggested that I had considered you as scum, then took it back. Even when you stopped it, you continue to belittle everything I said. I understand that you are abrasive in Mafia. From what I've seen, you are also a good player. However, that abrasiveness, while probably useful as an overall Mafia player, really clogs up the info stream. I'm willing to look past you being a dick (to me) and take your posts at face value. You obviously are not willing to reciprocate. I've read a ton of mafia games at this point to try and get a handle on the behavior of other people. Noticed Koshi when I was looking at stuff for Kush, and I'm wondering why he's acting the way he is this game. It's like someone turned him into a chibi. Also like guitar's read on Soniv. | ||
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Also, despite Rayn saying things about how he thought he would die tonight he's alive! (sorry if he said night 2, on phone and filtering is hard). | ||
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if that was someone else my b | ||
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idk how much my heal is for though. assuming that its moderately crappy, though we can try and find out tomorrow night. | ||
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then i considered other scenarios and said screw it might as well announce who i healed now you wonder if i will heal them again or help someone else... or WILL I USE MY UNKNOWN ULTIMATE ABILITY? GEMS ARE TRULY OUTRAGEOUS OPAL FOR HARMONY SHINE BRIGHT LIKE A DIAMOND | ||
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Still, we don't account for Janna.... meh useless since half the roster is more inactive than I am or not willing to claim. | ||
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[QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:13 Rean wrote: [QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck i need to learn to read. This VE taking damage and being healed is interesting. I need to check the roles when i have slept a bit. Seems like more people took damage than there are damage dealing roles. Something seems fishy.[/QUOTE] People with vanilla roles can still do some damage (Like yours truly). 5 people taking damage doesn't seem all that crazy.[/QUOTE] Yeah all vanilla roles cooperated and hit same people. This dude is sco scum. Nothing he says makes sense. ##Vote: Rean[/QUOTE] Did it ever even cross your mind that maybe not everyone that took damage has said so, either because they're not actually here or because they don't want to? Take Austinmcc who I hit, he hasnt been here yet and barring any roleblock/jailing shenanigans he should be taking atleast 50 damage.[/QUOTE should have waited for him to appear and say how much damage he took before announcing you hit him IMO dislike oats, hopped on and went off old info on lsb instead of discussing the new info. i understand if has a read on ls, but i dont like ignoring the info we just got on kp/ deaths | ||
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i heal for 200, and i automatically heal myself for half that. so VE was actually hit with 450 kp. iambadplzdontkillme.jpg | ||
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more for me (so in spoilers) + Show Spoiler + just making a note i need to read 166-175. dont like soniv right now, pretty anti guitar which i think is strange everyone seems to be looking at rean right now, but i'll read his filter before i go through the 10 pages that i'm behind as of now and try to make my own conclusion reminder to look at austin too lsb consolidated post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=177#3529 | ||
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Toodles~ | ||
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On December 06 2013 09:44 jcarlsoniv wrote: And why in the world would a townie be complaining about getting extra information? Could Chez be lying? Maybe, but I doubt it. He was accurate with Mig being Cho, so I'm inclined to believe he has such an ability. It's also possible that he feeds us one bit of correct info, then follows it up with a load of poo. If Koshi can't make a super role check item or whatever, why would the mods make a champ that can see everyone and not only tell a role, but also if they used an action or whatever at night? Working this out ss I type, TF? | ||
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On December 06 2013 11:44 Mocsta wrote: So it comes back to wtf.. At least 3 abilities hit Koshi <1> Unknown <2> Chezinu - watcher <3> 50KP -- which I assume is a VT based on the Power values others have proposed. Why would a VT want to hit Koshi? Iunno, but its possible the VT was a scum who just didn't get his pick. Throwing VT skills to be blocked just eats away at the shield instead of wasting, say, a 1000 one-time nuke on it. Man I am proud of myself for figuring out Chez's role. I'll leave my vote cuz I'm lazy unless I find a real person to vote for. /smug And Chez's ult may have inadvertendtly also burned a use of the shield, awks :< | ||
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On December 06 2013 11:51 ticklishmusic wrote: Iunno, but its possible the VT was a scum who just didn't get his pick. Throwing VT skills to be blocked just eats away at the shield instead of wasting, say, a 1000 one-time nuke on it. Man I am proud of myself for figuring out Chez's role. I'll leave my vote cuz I'm lazy unless I find a real person to vote for. /smug And Chez's ult may have inadvertendtly also burned a use of the shield, awks :< Oh shit accidental edit my bad. Meant to ebwodp but oops. And for another ACTUAL ebwodp, how do mods choose priority for night actions done to a player? | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:00 JonnyLaw wrote: Abilities and Resolution HP is the ONLY notification you will be receiving unless otherwise specified; players are not informed if their abilities landed, if they are roleblocked, healed/shielded/hit with KP/etc. You will be informed if an ability is refunded to you for whatever reason. Unless otherwise stated in your role PM, you may only use one ability per phase. There are multiple ability ‘types’ in this game and they will be listed here for reference in order of resolution (if necessary): Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths Heals Signup list switches/checks hmm, so what doesnt make sense to me then is why koshi took 50 dmg Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths <- 50 damage Heals Signup list switches/checks <- Chez right? | ||
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On December 06 2013 15:43 OdinOfPergo wrote: How... the fuck.. is like... a ... ....6 .. . ..... ... post rant on the... abysmal... .. ..... .. ... town.. .. .. .... ...play... (Post break) ... worthy.. ... .. .. . (post break) // .. . Of your freaking lynch? Are you (*&*($^%? ![[image loading]](http://www.boredpanda.org/system/wp-content/plugins/copyrightWrapper/watermark.php?display=true&image=http://bp.uuuploads.com/go-home-you-are-drunk/go-home-you-are-drunk-2.jpg) Sorry had to do it. | ||
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Right now I'm looking at all the J players-- jcarl, jonnylaw, jaybrunage. I'm definitely mixing them up a bit as I filter, but I'm sure at least one of them is scum. I still like guitar's case on soniv (jcarlsoniv, w/e). Meta as it is, I didn't really like Soniv's response to it about "you can't read me etc.". I dunno why this switch happened though. + Show Spoiler + On December 06 2013 01:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: I am. And as much as I still disagree with you speculating on possible roles, I had to chuckle to myself when you guessed right for Thresh. Next, JohnnyLaw who accused half the thread (okay, Bum, LSB, moc and others) of bad play and seems to want to also lynch said half of the thread and talking about the power of democracy and one man one vote. + Show Spoiler + On December 06 2013 12:31 JonnyLaw wrote: First of all who's getting lynched is not my call. I have a vote. You think my vote is the most influential in the game? I don't. I got shit on d1 for thinking I know something about tl mafia. As I said I'll happily lynch you. You pegged me scum, jumped to bum when convenient then came back at me once bum was town and prome joined the game. I said bum might be town because his post saying im town makes no sense if he's scum. He could ride the LSB bandwagon till the end. You call me scum for that logic then post the same logic for why I am scum. You can't have it both ways. Jay aka lynchbait... I read somewhere about the mentality of finding scum vs lynching someone as townie, and this is iffy. Also a big swing in attitude, though emotions are running fast. + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2013 14:14 jaybrundage wrote: Hmm I was gonna defend Rean. But I took a quick gander at his filter and I understand why your going after him. While I liked his early posts his posts have continued to stay contentless. Rean DO SOMETHING. Look thru some filters make a case. Your dead weight for town atm. On December 05 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote: Are you kidding? Your not even going to try to play this game to the best of your ability. You gonna make a dumb sheep joke that's not even relevant. I was planning to defend you because I thought your Doublelift impersonations were genuine. In a post an hour ago or so I told Rayn that you were town and to lay off you. But you obvious need the pressure. While you may be town. You have contributed close to nothing. Rayn has everyone right to be pressuring you. Hows this for sheep ##Vote Rean Oh and by the way the grass tastes like shit or maybe that's just your posting. Aaaaaand I want M_Z in particular to respond to what rayn would endearingly call my half-assed analysis. (I tryin' okay?) | ||
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On December 06 2013 16:02 geript wrote: Chez I'll get back to you in the afternoon when I have time to actually read lots of stuff. I want to read Onegu and his case again. And ticklish. LIke i really like that post of his, but it's a weird delurk then lurk. My activity is spotty, but I'm definitely posting more casually and frequently as the game goes on and I get more comfortable. I'm also becoming slightly more invested with every post I make. | ||
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YO DONT TRY AND GET ON MY GOOD SIDE I GOT MY EYE ON YOU but mostly i like you, but maybe thats because i havent filtered you yet. recently. | ||
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Super care to explain your read on me? | ||
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Clearly on dat phone posting lyfe I still think VE is town though. Him, Marvell, Rayn and Sandroba are my towniest list atm | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:02 Risen wrote: I swear you were just saying I was capable of crazy shenans and now you're saying VE is incapable of them. You scam bref? I think he's saying it's less likely that me+VE are in cahoots than you soon sneaky things | ||
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On December 07 2013 01:57 ticklishmusic wrote: I'm curious about the interaction or lack thereof between Austin And jcarlsoniv. Both under heavy fire hut in like parallel universes ebwop both def seem scummy to me, but why havent they even tried to redirect attention to each other? by making a good case on the other, they could have shown their towniness AND pushed a lynch on someone else simultaneously. almost seems like a noob mafia mistake to me, or just strange AF | ||
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On December 07 2013 02:04 jcarlsoniv wrote: Lol what? -I'm not actually afraid of being lynched -Why would I "redirect a case" onto someone who I don't necessarily think is scum? Redirecting a case onto a different wagon in no way shows towniness. Like, not even a little. y u no comment on austin at all he's fotm, either agree he;s OP and going to be nerfed soon or be hipster about it | ||
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Potential scum team 1: Austin/jaybrunage/jcarlsoniv/supersoft/?? Potential scum team 2: m_z/rean/kush/??/?? | ||
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On December 07 2013 04:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: ticklish, if you don't give an answer to this in the very near future, I'm going to assume you're full of shit spoiler alert + Show Spoiler + I already think you're full of shit y u heff to b mad ur basically playing how gtr said you would  | ||
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On December 07 2013 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: Gonna need a bit more explanation for these, methinks. Like, why couldn't kush and I be on the same team? He defended me the first time around. Although, he's defended most of the players in the game...so poor example. Where is the connection for "potential scum team 1"? What makes you put kush on team 2? I'm assuming you've seen something I missed. Have you explained a scumread on supersoft? i have a big sheet where i listed out all the players and drew colored arrows to who they defended, who they sheeped, who they accused. it breaks nicely into two bundles with the austin vs m_z assumption. | ||
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On December 07 2013 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: Additionally: Why are you working under the assumption that there are 5 scum? I know you asked it of the mods in thread, but I don't remember seeing a response. because a lol team has 5 people. | ||
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/sadface i'm diappointed with the attitude of all these so-called vets-- the ones who've left and gotten themselves modkilled, but also some of the ones who have stayed. those who kill this game are RL scum and should be banned from mafia (dunno if that counts as backseat moderating, but thats how i feel and i apologize if it is) im pretty set on who im voting tomorrow at this point. i'll reveal in ~1 hour after the nightpost, wish i could make a convincing case but i'm not good at analysis so its more of a gutfeel. | ||
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BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHICH I ACTUALLY USED wait crap maybe you do. o_o | ||
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On December 08 2013 10:24 Koshi wrote: I don't even know who you are. So no worries. Scummers though. be quiet. they may be watching. don't attract attention. /relurk | ||
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Took 849 damage. Healed VE. | ||
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On December 08 2013 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Didn't he say he isn't able to clone again til tonight? (obviously assuming he did, in fact, close last night. Wukong - Decoy - As the Monkey King, Wukong is a natural trickster. Two times during the game, you may create and hide behind a clone of yourself for a night. All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead. Cannot be used on consecutive nights. ** Decoy is susceptible to abilities that affect items and traps. Moderately useless quote of champ description | ||
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mkfuba is alive I assume as he is posting (crown didn't work?) and the nightpost didn't mention his face getting melted off. M_Z is either scum or is being framed in an incredibly elaborate manner. | ||
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On December 08 2013 12:38 kushm4sta wrote: was lying to save myself from nk completely unnecessary no one cares SUCH META SO DOGE MANY PLAYS | ||
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its a contentless post though :< | ||
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On December 08 2013 22:00 Mocsta wrote: rayn list is HP change tickle could be 849 and healed. so change is 749 Note I said I took 849. My heal does 200 to another person, 100 to myself, so my hp changed 749 total. I was being deliberately vague/ incorrect, though obv the ambulance radio kind of negated that. I think the invention is pretty useful actually. | ||
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On December 09 2013 02:11 sandroba wrote: Assuming either risen or marv/mkfuba are town, and the item wasn't bagus, there should be some type of roleblocking going on here. The choice to block risen's action day1 in particular seems peculiar to me, and if risen is town that probably means mafia doesn't have complete control over the roleblock target. Then fuck everything they got kassadin | ||
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On December 07 2013 03:11 Chezinu wrote: [/QUOTE]Consolidated Night 1 Action Post Roles in the Game - Annie Role Eliminated - Warwick, Kha’Zix Night 1 Positions
Claimed Night actions Rean -> 50 Damage to Austinmcc Mig -> 125 Damage to Meepak, Chezinu -> spies on Koshi, rayne, jcarlsoniv and Mig to see what they are doing. [/QUOTE] On December 09 2013 02:17 Mid or Feed wrote: Host correction: HP Changes (totals): Chezinu 900 damage Mig 50 damage VisceraEyes 50 damage raynpelikoneet 100 damage Risen 325 damage Coagulation 50 damage ticklishmusic 749 damage HP Checks: Most recent info I could find | ||
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Every time I read one of Jay's posts I get a feeling he's scum, then pull back and remember he's best lynchbait NA. | ||
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On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote: Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting. Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential. rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three. I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads. please let us know when claiming your role will actually help us | ||
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That said, what Johnny has been doing recently is making dead-end or incorrect reads and insulting people. Given the pretty frustrated environment we have already, he's just adding more fuel to the fire and getting players riled up even more with his insults and false accusations. Seems pretty scummy to me. | ||
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The way I interpreted it was that initially he said that you and kush posted badly. You guys weren't afraid to just post whatever, and he initially thought that was scummy or w/e but now he reads that sort of posting means you're comfortable. | ||
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I also hope I'm not dead by then. :x | ||
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Updated role list. Things we know that Mafia has: Kassadin + roleblocker | ||
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The thing about jlaw was me sarcastically quoting him where he said "I dont think revealing my role will help town". It's a load of poop. | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:08 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe but that's a generic and useless statement. Knowing the players surrounding him you could give more a detailed comment than that. Pls enlighten us with more insightful statements | ||
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Assuming I'm mafia, would I really be dumb enough to hit someone with my massive nuke if one of their given abilities was to reflect damage? Why wouldn't I just, idunno, kill mkfuba, Koshi or someone else? Come on now. | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:35 justanothertownie wrote: Well, you could have at least added your read on Koshi and me if you say something like that. I don't know about Koshi. I guess leaning town a bit but not very much because he hasn't done that much and because of rayns point about his role. Woops, I swear I posted a thread with my thoughts on most players right above the one I put down roleclaims. I'm working with lots of tabs open, so I must have closed that particular one before I hit post. From top to bottom most townie to least townie roughly (not including myself). + Show Spoiler + Koshi Mkfuba Mocsta VE Oats LSB Sandro Onegu Mig Supersoft Jcarl JAT Gtrsrs Kush Rayn Risen Rean Meap Roffles Coag JBrunage JLaw Koshi and you are right next to mkfuba, followed by Sandro and LSB. I lean town on most of you guys if that makes you happy. | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: Except that Riposte is published for everyone to see. Sandro has been claimed as Fiora for a while, so anyone shooting a big ability would know that there are potential reflections coming from him. That is not a valid defense. He was dealt 1 damage night 1, correct? This could supposedly leave him with 849 life (I'm not sure if he's claimed how much health he actually has, but 850 seems like a logical health total for Fiora to have based off of the flips we've had so far). I find it very odd that an ability would deal 849 damage to you. This is what doesn't sit right with me, and I don't know how to explain it. I know Taric doesn't have a huge damage ability, but his ult increases damages. It's some speculation on my part, and I hate it. Also, confirming what Sandro's remaining life is would make him an easier/more accurate target to finish off I suppose. So you're saying I would attack Sandro with what is probably one of the biggest nukes in the game (not to mention likely one shot) KNOWING that it could be reflected back to me instead of choosing an easier target. That seems incredibly stupid to do. I can only use one ability per night (I also posted about it) and announced that I healed VE both nights. I also said it was odd that I took 849 dmg N2, and I linked it to the 1 damage Sando took from N1. I posted TWICE about it, and VE was the only one to even acknowledge the connection. Furthermore, I stated that I had taken 849 before the ambulance radio announced I had taken 749, with me explaining the difference as Taric's self heal. Also, didn't VE say he was going to use his secondary ability and we were going to get a notification about it? | ||
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On December 10 2013 00:28 sandroba wrote: I did use the reflect today, but I don't even know if it reflects kp. Mafia could have hit me with 1 kp again, in which case it does cause I took no dmg, but if they did, whoever got hit with one kp is not gonna say it. Or mafia could have hit me with any other amount of dmg which got reflected back, but again, they prob won't claim that dmg either. Ticklish prob got hit by mafia because, ???, he is the medic? Also I'm not going to be of great use today, coag is guaranteed mafia and I've decided to give myself 2 days off. I'll pick it up again at night, because I'm not guaranteed to live to the next day. | ||
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1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora 2. I knew he used Riposte that night 3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread. | ||
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I'll take back the passive aggressive post now. | ||
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Or hey, maybe you could even save me from dying! Yay! Oh this reminds me, JBrunage claimed Ezreal. Don't ask me how I was reminded of that. | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:33 Mig wrote: I really have no clue, if his powers only require pms why did he say anything in thread at all? The only logical explanation for it I have is either A) he is just being an idiot and decided to fuck around (which seems possible considering he hasn't even argued to try and save himself at all). or B) they have some sort of power which can fuck up the lynch. This would be a nightmare. Why do you think he used his power and why claim it in thread? Also what do you think of VE? On December 10 2013 06:28 ticklishmusic wrote: Maybe the Mafia team has Amumu which means they can stack antivotes on someone. If they do, then we should really consolidate on Coag or someone to avoid a forced mislynch of the person with the second most votes. Re: B I propose we stack votes on M_Z with a couple votes less on Coag. | ||
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if it turns out coag is town, then i'll be be able to excuse this loss because of RL scum not playing for their win conditions i put my vote on him, but i'd like to ensure that meapak has the second most votes after coag. | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:46 jcarlsoniv wrote: The fact that we kept Roffles alive yesterday pisses me off enough. Now you want to keep Coag alive? Look, if we're gonna be serious about dealing with people who have made this game absolute shit, then Coag should die today. Put that fact on top of his mega inferno bomb, and he's dying. ##unvote ##vote Coag Koshi, please do good things tonight. The idea was if we stack on M_Z, either we burn the antivotes, M_Z is confirmed scum and Coag dies, or M_Z dies without intervention. Coag is less valuable because he's used what I assume is a oneshot nuke and is obvious confirmed scum. | ||
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ill just be mad if he turns out to be town idiot or some stupid third party. Gonna revise my scum/ not townlist: M_Z, Roffles, JBrunage, JLaw, Coag, guessing one or two more after that @ next post Meh, you have a point, that ouncing bomb could kill me  | ||
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Come on ss, you're really grasping on this one. If you're going to push VE, make it legit. here he's saying that that Coag has claimed scum. | ||
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Because I'll take the opposite of what he says that if I flip town it means he's scum, and i would be okay trading support for anyone on the enemy team | ||
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On December 10 2013 09:12 gtrsrs wrote: my time is scarce atm i find coagulation's actions quite strange this game feels over to me anyway ##vote: coagulation gtr plz it's exam week for me. | ||
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On December 10 2013 12:39 Mocsta wrote: Ok so according to the sign up list, the nuke splashed onto: LSB Koshi Fuba JAT Sandroba I think its very likely, Fuba, JAT, Sandroba are town. I think its likely to some degree that LSB + Koshi are scum. Conspiracy Theory ALERT It is natural to assume scum won't hurt their own; hence all are town. This is exacerbated by the nuking of sandroba + Fuba. However, consider the over dramisation Coag went through. He created a spectacle, when it appears he could just have PM'd the host (its ambiguous but reads to me that way). So why do this?? Two of the biggest issues this cycle were the failure of the Crown invention (not explained) + VE failed parity check (explained by jcarlsoniv box) I am thinking that the invention was always going to fail and this was a rouse to give koshi town cred due to taking on splash dmg. Coag was barely posting and was going to come under heat this cycle regardless, so scum came up with a plan to best use coags abilities to shit up thread discussion. I think this is more plausible than Coag didnt want to nuke MZ because MZ is scum. If this was the case: just PM the nuke and stay anonymous. I dont see how this action satisfies any scum agenda. No, I think the Crown was functional but just got roleblocked. Mafia has Soraka/ Anivia or another champ to roleblock in addition to Kassadin. Based on the description, Coag did actually make all that stuff about 2 people up, or rather the scum made it up. We're going to have to re-evaluate that section right after the nightpost based on this. | ||
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As for saving me, we need to find out what abilities are available to us to try and either save me or at least get info out of my death. I'm leaning towards just healing a useful townie tonight if nothing else works out, heals resolve after deaths though, but if I live it's a win win situation. | ||
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On December 09 2013 03:54 mkfuba07 wrote: I also claimed to deal damage to Rofflez last night, which didn't happen. I'm more confident I was roleblocked now. | ||
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Updated role list. The ones who haven't claimed are JLaw Kush Roffles Oats Mkfuba JAT Things we know that Mafia has: Kassadin + roleblocker, had Ziggs | ||
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Coag was Impact, the top. We need is bengi (jungle), faker (mid), piglet (ad) and poohmandoo (support). Flips: bumatlarge- LoveLin Kurumi- Westdoor Promethelax- Tabe austinmcc- GoDlike OdinOfPergo- Scarra geript- Uzi Chezinu- MiSTakE Coagulation- Impact jcarlsoniv- kushm4sta- Rean- JonnyLaw- ticklishmusic- Dyrus gtrsrs- Roffles- Onegu- VisceraEyes- Risen- supersoft- raynpelikoneet- Wh1t3zZ Mocsta- Mig- Oatsmaster- jaybrundage- LSB- Koshi- mkfuba07- justanothertownie- sandroba- Meapak_Ziphh- No time to read the thread, but claim. | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:29 jaybrundage wrote: Apparently TL formating hates me so there she is in all her glory ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZVSzVw5.jpg) | ||
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Scum could call out a random, but we would know that they were real scum thereafter. I think the roles are relevant. I'm going by probabilities, but what are the chances that we have killed no players who were actual members of SKT, and our one scum kill was a member of SKT? | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:15 sandroba wrote: Does anyone know if mkfuba's night action got stopped too? yea he said it was blocked (if you're talking about the night he tried to use crown) On December 11 2013 03:16 justanothertownie wrote: And should definitely be modkilled/banned regardless. Pretty much. Yeah, that too lolz | ||
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For example, I am the medic and I'm almost dead already. SS can potentially reveal two roles tonight or roleblock people the next. We have damage dealers who, if unbothered, can kill scum over the course of one (or two) nights. I would be angry if I were hit with whatever amount of damage you were hit with. But take a step back and think: was there a reason you were attacked by said person? Were you acting scummy? Did they act with townie intentions? If they did, forgive them-- it sucks you took damage, but playing selfish or only helping the person you like is not going to help your entire team win. You might live longer, but your team will lose. | ||
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I'm not suggesting lynching someone AFTER we knock them down 400 hp, geez. Give me credit for using half my brain at least. Rayn, calm down. calm down. calm down. I agree with one post you make. Then you insult me, my mother and half the thread. How am I supposed to feel good about agreeing to anything you say, even if its logical? Did you not learn that being nice is literally one of the best ways to get people to listen to you? You have 30 pages (probably 40), and I bet like 10 are you calling other people bad or worse. It's not helping. Think like... 30 seconds before you post if the way you delivery your opinion undermines it. I don't care or know if this is some persona you put on as good cop/bad cop or because you think it makes you a good mafia player. If it is, thank goodness you're not an ass in real life, but its a terrible attitude. You alienate a ton of people. Have some cute things and cool down. http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/the-27-most-adorable-baby-and-dog-friendships-of-2013 | ||
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Persons of interest (IMO): JLaw: Scum. Only shows up occasionally to throw out some insults and make a few bad reads. Just causes town to get more angry and frustrated. Crude but effective scumming tactics. Also refused to reveal his role. JBrunage: Hey, he showed up. And he offered little of value. Kush: Asks for modkills. Trolls I had a bad read on him from the beginning, so I was reluctant to call him out again. He played alright before, but as town got all angry and confused he definitely pushed people farther. Pretty different from the other games of his I read. Rean: Austin’s thoughts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=202#4031 Austin also had this tidbit on Risen http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=203#4042 Roffles: He was posting well early on! And then he left. I am actually kind of okay with that. So I lied. I used my ult tonight instead, which is a one-shot invincibility. Yeah, I have no idea why they gave that to me either really, except maybe because of Taric’s old ult which was super OP. It lasts two phases, so after next day I will actually be dead unless magic happens. Hopefully either way I will have soaked up some mafia KP before dying. We should get a lot of info tonight if things work out correctly. VE’s parity check may finally come back, supersoft’s check should reveal two lurky players (sorry I didn’t actually heal you dude). Good luck all. | ||
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