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On December 05 2013 12:46 Risen wrote: Jailed = RB in this case. What jailer sees my play d1 and goes, "Mafia are going to shoot Risen."? Your mason target may have been JB prevent powers to hit them. | ||
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Mig - 100KP Prome - >950KP VE - 250KP Jonny - 125KP -------- I think its pretty obvious scum killed Prome. (1) He was town (2) The KP delivered is beyond any KP range we have seen in the OP/flips The remaining KP off a guess are abilities either from town or scum heroes. Im surprised only 1 person died. So may have had good protects (RB/saves) One thing that is puzzling me is the 1KP on sandroba. I dont recall anything in the OP having something like that --- OK now i gotta go. | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: How do you know Prome was hit with 950 KP? His flip = 950KP. so was hit with at least 950KP?? hence >950KP > = greater than | ||
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One even if ve was hit for what 450kp apparently.. that's 2000kp total roughly. Even if it was confirmed all scum, that's too low for a 30player game. Should be abkut 3 people worth usually Not enough info to call people confirmed. Yes I'm looking at mig here. Ve is more than capable of bullshitting. I wonder if the save would have been notified as well??? Two. Why is no one joining me on jonny??? | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, so. I want to lynch supersoft. Dude has been a non-presence all day longs in terms of voices rising in suspicion of others. He's posted, he's even had opinions about some stuff. But the town supersoft I have played with in the past pretty strongly identifies as town just by how he scumhunts - aggressive and active. And it's hard to replicate as scum because he says things that make it very obvious that he's reading the thread - all of it. There's been nothing like that and I think he should be today's lynch. ##Vote: supersoft I won't be responding to cases against me. They're wrong, I'm town, and I'm proceeding with this game as if I were confirmed town and my opinions will be viewed by all as honest free of malicious intent. If you want to lynch me, you're going to have to do it by yelling louder than me. I have nothing but time on my hands. There is no way this guy is worth a vote over johnny. I agree ss could be scum. Heck I talked about him in my nite post. But in scale of scumminess. Jonny is up here Ss is further below Plus, I mean this constructively. You said you won't be present for this cycle due to personal reasons. Are you planning to push this read? Seems like a convenient dead vote to me.... | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll look at your case on Jonny. Just give me a bit. You wanna tell me what you think about supersoft? My problem with ss is specifically his lack of anything I'm busy as fuck but still trying to push my thoughts in limited time. I think ss needs a half cycle to produce something we can analyse. As I said. He's a big boy and as town should be able to contribute without being forced by a vote. I think that will be more indicative of motive as well. Hence. Johnny is up hereand Ss down there | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Whats your conclusion on KP Mocsta? I dont see it. What's the point of this. Why are u trying to shit on me. I told u we have not enough info to make conclusions... Now u ask for a conclusion Pls start playing the game. I'm saying this politely of course  | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta i am telling you JonnyLaw will tur up town. Ok. So you think rean is better? I must say. I didn't like how he tried to prod u by referencing bttb. Felt like baiting you Is there an actual case on him? Or is the lack of anything, the actual case? | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:54 VisceraEyes wrote: This isn't constructive. This is intentionally construing my vote in a scummy way based on something I haven't even done yet. Mocsta is scum. So I pull you up on a co.pletwly valid point and u want to twist it this way. Go ahead and vote me then. It's a dead vote too ANd u know it. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote: You want to get into a shitfight with me? Purposely? It sure sounds like that. I would rather not My lunch break is almost over. Let me know if you have something useful to say. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote: What completely valid point is that Mocsta? Tell me. I'm in phone. Can't quote Read second post on this page and combine with inability to push. I think it's a dead vote that is going to go no where. Sue me for calling that out. Now I did mean it constructively. I think u have taken this personally and that was never the intention. Please read again whee I am coming from. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote: You're accusing me of leaving my vote on someone and peacing out of the thread. You're accusing me of doing this BEFORE I've done this. Please tell me how that's valid Mocsta. U said u would be gone for 2 cycles. U haven't taken back the 2 cycles comment so I don't have to wait for a peace out. Johnny is a better lynch full stop. Even confirmed town prome agreed who came in with a fresh perspective. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:06 VisceraEyes wrote: I said in the post you're criticizing that whoever wants to lynch me will have to yell louder than me. If you think I'm taking it personally, it's because you're selectively ignoring my posts and trying to make me looks scummy for it. I'm angry, and you're going to have to explain why you'd do that as town. You?? I was talking about laying a vote on ss and then potentially leaving. Johnny is where votes should be. Either you are misreading or my Utocoreect went off. I'm done here. | ||
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On December 05 2013 17:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's good, that's good! I really don't think JonnyLaw is scum. K, i have some time to read whilst coming home. Is everything you have on Rean in ya filter; or do you need to make a link post for my easy reading I still don't get why you think JL is town, but whatevz we can argue this one out when I get home. | ||
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JonnyLaw pls On December 05 2013 13:53 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): VisceraEyes Rean (1): raynpelikoneet JonnyLaw (1): Mocsta Modkill zone (24): all dem playas Rean is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in | ||
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On December 05 2013 19:59 Koshi wrote: I am filterdiving Prome and I just remember something from catching up. Mocsta In GoT we had less than "2 KP". I think we had 11 damage and all players had 7 HP iirc. Interesting. Thing is, half the thread hasnt commented in the 7 hrs since the lynch so hopefully when i wake up tomorrow we will be in a situation to piece it all together. That invention looks pretty stacked -- me likes | ||
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ME: On December 04 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=JonnyLaw jonnylaw Reading his filter I'm at loggerheads. - I cant follow his reads mid Day1 - they read like checklists and with some of the reads I dont even know if the lean is town or null. - I find him to be a lot more direct/assertive during the pick phase. Coupled with the point above I find pretty scummy. - Has a read on OWB/Kush.. that is weird. On one hand he is making some effort in his filter to push it, and on the other hand I don't feel he is making an effort to strengthen his read by talking to Kush. - I do like how he plays early Day 1 with Geript/Jay. It felt like he was stopping that feud and then tried to generate discussion with the right level of assertiveness. - I also misread him earlier when I said he +1'd me. That was prob OMGUS of me. Having said that, I dont see why it is relevant to call me out for making excuses. Doesn't take it anywhere either. Overall I think he has good potential to be scum. I really want to see him push his prime read (Kush) more. + I'm not sure if knowing he is a newbie is affecting my read. CONFIRMED TOWN PROME - very similar read/outcome On December 04 2013 17:36 Promethelax wrote: Johnnylaw + Show Spoiler + Not even a name I recognize. Given that he doesn't even have a mafia database entry I'll assume he is new.. As always anyone who knows anything about the individual who can add anything metawise would be greatly appreciated. According to an old Gonzaw heuristic I'd have to call JL scum, he stopped posting while getting boozed up. You can't trust a dude who stops posting while his guard is down. Based on his early posts I'll assume Johnnylaw is a LoL convert brought over by Wave. Dude knows his LoL (and I don't, so a lot of his early posts are not in a language I speak). DINGDINGDING we have a winner folks On December 01 2013 11:18 JonnyLaw wrote: This makes no sense. There's not a lot of pressure on you because you're flipping it on everyone else. Just fucking calm down, make your arguments and wait while we gain more information as people post, vote and draft. I get that you're making people talk and that will help us down the line but for now we have little information and ten pages of personal attacks and shit posting is clogging up the whole fucking thread. Get your shit together or I'm saying you are scum or at the least, not helping the town actively. The series of personal attacks and shit posting for ten pages gave me nothing yet. I'll post again after I see what scum ban. Holy double donkey dicks. Would lynch off of this post. 1. threat 2. it was a weak threat 3 that last sentence. You know what ten pages of shitposting gives a townie? I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with bum lead. 4. the whole thing is a soft grab for town points, its a 'ooh but bad thread atmosphere is bad' post with out doing anything to fix what it complains about. Scum love to agree with something being anti town while doing nothing to prevent it. So far this post is the scummiest thing I've read in this thread. Would lynch. This post is pretty awful to (its directed at bum) On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote: Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler + At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand. Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is. "I don't understand, therefore you are scum" = scummy "I don't understand, I would like to understand" = townie which is the above? Oh yes, the former. Johnnylaw is not making new points of his own, is arguing for and against nothings and keeps grabbing at town points while attacking town favoured plans. Note that he argues with the usefulness of the plan but does not provide a better plan, he is tearing down not bringing up. Corollary to the Chezinu rule, the kushmasta rule. On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote: Okay, I was out all day yesterday. Two hours later I've finally caught up in the thread. gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game. Soniv - fine for now. Looks to be making an effort to push the game towards a goal. kushmasta - Like really? This guy comes into the thread and starts calling people scum in one liners and generally shitting the place up. He replaced OWB who completely shut down and hated playing scum in NMM L. The random tooscummytobescum post irritates me as well. The rest have longer filters and I need to evaluate them. Just reading through the last 20 pages hasn't left me with other strong feelings yet. I'll be checking filters and around for a while. twenty pages of reading twenty four hours after his last thread appearance and the only kinda scummy thing he picks up on is that kush is a weird ass dude. I could have told you that for free. He also says that gtsrs is playing the game. Which is not a conclusion. Everyone can see that gt is busy/lazy/scum JL doesn't provide any insight, he says he didn't like something and follows it with nothing until VE brings it up again at which time JL +1s like a champ. He does these quick summaries of people which I can't stand, many of you know my stance on list posts without content and JL has many posts which are just one continuous contentless list. A bit of an excuse since Sandro asked him to look at those particular filters but in reality he said nothing about the four players. Conclusion rating 4.5 my qualms with a JL lynch. The kid may be so new he doesn't see what he is doing and is unsure of how to contribute in a large game, lord knows its hard. He could be throwing around dog crap posts because he simply doesn't know how to make better posts, he seems relativly involved in the thread and has intereacted with many players by name and by idea. For now he looks like my first pressure for day two but I am not yet confidant I will want to lynch him. If I had to guess most likely scum out of the players I have filtered so far I'd take JL no questions asked. ME On December 05 2013 11:59 Mocsta wrote: (3) jonnylaw is looking the goods for D2. He *STILL* isn't pushing his main read. I get hes come in and had to defend himself, but normally town brush that stuff off and then get back into scum hunting. Please lynch This is the best case in the whole game. Lets do this guise ! | ||
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On December 05 2013 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am still telling you all JonnyLaw will flip town. Rean on the other hand is incapable to even give 3 scumreads. k, im home now and willing to listen. Convince me. Even if its just look at my filter. | ||
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U asked for a case about jonny. I put it out there. All i have noticed/remembered from you regarding rean is a heap of disjointed posts. You have a big filter so its not ideal to raed through page by page just for Rean. Im saying: convince me why Rean is a better choice | ||
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?? As in a VT hit you? | ||
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