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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#841
And when people do not make plans mafia!Chezinu is gonna pick CPRdoc @ spot #23 rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:10 GMT
#844
On December 02 2013 09:09 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In every PYP game when top picks have claimed their picks and followed some sort of a plan there has been scum found in top 6.

And what are you trying to imply by that?

that plans are good pr the town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:22 GMT
#849
On December 02 2013 09:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not = alignment. Mass claiming roles really doesn't give anyone an idea of anyones alignment. And given the sheer fact every role has hidden shit Outing all that hidden shite is dumb. Mafia clearly didn't want to deal with dt roles this game and if anyones secret role info ends up being a dt why would you out that for mafia? Also people having x roles means any role that requires knowing someone elses role to activate or reach full power of said role gives mafia a huge advantage. It also lets mafia snipe more threatening roles to them more quickly and also makes it harder to determine peoples alignment given that they can shoot based off of "that role would suck to face" as opposed to offing people who are being solid townies, etc.. and thus throwing town into chaos.

Claiming is situational and a mass claim does not help the town anywhere near as much as it helps mafia.

This post is totally wrong but i don't really care because people won't follow the plan anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:27 GMT
#853
Who gives a fuck about some 2 or 3 town roles that if exposed to mafia might get killed on early when the possible alternative is that half of the town is gonna end up being vanilla?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:28 GMT
#855
It's not like "if the town is not gonna get X or Y role or claim them we are gonna lose".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:29 GMT
#856
On December 02 2013 09:27 LSB wrote:
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On December 02 2013 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 02 2013 09:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not = alignment. Mass claiming roles really doesn't give anyone an idea of anyones alignment. And given the sheer fact every role has hidden shit Outing all that hidden shite is dumb. Mafia clearly didn't want to deal with dt roles this game and if anyones secret role info ends up being a dt why would you out that for mafia? Also people having x roles means any role that requires knowing someone elses role to activate or reach full power of said role gives mafia a huge advantage. It also lets mafia snipe more threatening roles to them more quickly and also makes it harder to determine peoples alignment given that they can shoot based off of "that role would suck to face" as opposed to offing people who are being solid townies, etc.. and thus throwing town into chaos.

Claiming is situational and a mass claim does not help the town anywhere near as much as it helps mafia.

This post is totally wrong but i don't really care because people won't follow the plan anyways.

I wouldn't say it is totally wrong. Ever since town decided the best idea was to ban out the obvious mafia roles, which was a horrible idea because those would be easy mafia kills, roles do not = aliment.

However, giving mafia the power roles free reign is an incredibly stupid idea and come day I will be roleclaiming and voting anyone who doesnt

The point was to ban the roles so that mafia needs to ban the investigative roles which leaves more room for other good roles to be in the game. Investigations can't be trusted anyways unless townies deny framer/GF/etc. Did you even read the thread yet?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#859
On December 02 2013 09:29 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Rayn, I initially really liked your plan because of that fact.
I'm only hesitant on it know because there are still a lot of people that aren't here...
So what's the point in like 10% of us guessing and still ending up vanilla?

Yeah there is no point. That's why i said i don't really care, there is not enough people.. :p
And btw it was sandroba's plan, not mine.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:36 GMT
#863
On December 02 2013 09:34 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 02 2013 09:27 LSB wrote:
On December 02 2013 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 02 2013 09:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not = alignment. Mass claiming roles really doesn't give anyone an idea of anyones alignment. And given the sheer fact every role has hidden shit Outing all that hidden shite is dumb. Mafia clearly didn't want to deal with dt roles this game and if anyones secret role info ends up being a dt why would you out that for mafia? Also people having x roles means any role that requires knowing someone elses role to activate or reach full power of said role gives mafia a huge advantage. It also lets mafia snipe more threatening roles to them more quickly and also makes it harder to determine peoples alignment given that they can shoot based off of "that role would suck to face" as opposed to offing people who are being solid townies, etc.. and thus throwing town into chaos.

Claiming is situational and a mass claim does not help the town anywhere near as much as it helps mafia.

This post is totally wrong but i don't really care because people won't follow the plan anyways.

I wouldn't say it is totally wrong. Ever since town decided the best idea was to ban out the obvious mafia roles, which was a horrible idea because those would be easy mafia kills, roles do not = aliment.

However, giving mafia the power roles free reign is an incredibly stupid idea and come day I will be roleclaiming and voting anyone who doesnt

The point was to ban the roles so that mafia needs to ban the investigative roles which leaves more room for other good roles to be in the game. Investigations can't be trusted anyways unless townies deny framer/GF/etc. Did you even read the thread yet?

Nope, and that's the stupidest peace of logic I heard. Not only would mafia ban out the DT roles in the first place, DT roles are always valueable and are probably the easiest role to verity the alignment. Who was the major proponents so I know who to kill first?


DT roles are a good pick for scum too, if i was scum in this game and the roles were there i would have totally picked a DT role.
In addition to that the last three times i have as scum decided a frame target that player ended up being checked. I would assume other people are capable of framing decently aswell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#865
LSB if you want to kill those people you should probably aim for 5/6 of the players. So good luck with that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:40 GMT
#869
On December 02 2013 09:38 OdinOfPergo wrote:
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On December 02 2013 09:36 Koshi wrote:
If people are wondering why I wont be posting much.

1) I am awesome.
2) I am first pick and got Viktor. I will make items that are pro town.
3) I crumbed my player name.
4) I crumbed my LoL team.
5) I am awesome.



Wait, so you got a fancy teamname along with a player name? I'm jealous now.

Probabaly SKT1. :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:41 GMT
#872
On December 02 2013 09:40 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Actually I think I mis-interpretted the meaning of your point there. You crumbed the team your player name is on by that?

Actually i get that you didn't have a team name right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:42 GMT
#874
Koshi invent candies..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#877
On December 02 2013 09:43 OdinOfPergo wrote:
my role pm did not include a team name. Which is why when I read Koshi's point list it makes me wonder.

It's okay. I got a team name too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:51 GMT
#879
On December 02 2013 09:48 gtrsrs wrote:
i picked kha'zix
please don't take my pick

I'm pretty sure you won't get that role from your spot. But you can always try!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 00:59 GMT
#884
I would not call #19 "quite decent spot". ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 01:00 GMT
#885
I picked the KP lightning rod. I don't remember it's name as i do not play LoL.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 01:00 GMT
#886
Yeah it was Shen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 01:04 GMT
#889
ou will know your starting HP, and will be notified of any changes to your HP value.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 02:07 GMT
#903
On December 02 2013 11:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 10:29 StorrZerg wrote:
whats your plan lsb?

Everyone roleclaim after roles are given

I fail to see how this is better than climing before the picking.
Could you elaborate because imo the only difference is that we end up with more vanillas.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 02 2013 02:33 GMT
#905
On December 02 2013 11:32 Mocsta wrote:
Why so much hate on plans / vs / not plans.

In the end we roll with whatever we get, just like any other game.

Im not role claiming anyways. Got burnt by it last PYP where BM fake-claimed justice vigi.


That's a pretty bad example because hosts flipped the roles into something they were not for scum which was ridiculous.
He wasn't even a justice vig while technically he was.
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