jcarl was around and even recommended jay as a possible check for super. Why would he give him the lantern after that, or why would he recommend jay as a target if he had already given him the lantern.

Really need to hear from supersoft about his checks.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 14:31 GMT

#6254

Yes for the love of god activate double lynch. Also yea just shoot JL, the fact that he refuses to role claim and the fact that he just disappears when asked about it is a good indicator that he is scum. If he flips we need a lot of time to evaluate the information for a double lynch.

Rayn didn't Risen say he forgot to send in a night command?

Also, supersoft you still got a result back from your check, even tho jay had the lantern? Seriously where is fucking jcarl I want to hear why he gave jay the lantern.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 14:52 GMT

#6258

Mocsta what are you talking about. How about we lynch the 2 people we think are most likely to be scum.

Rayn, I do not know what Risen did with his power just telling you what he said. A lot is going to depend on if JL flips scum. If he flips scum then you know that if Risen were mafia he could have shielded him and didn't. So if that happens then I am inclined to believe Risen was just being a retard.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 14:57 GMT

#6261

I thought his other power was mason? I guess you are suggesting he doesnt have a shield at all?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 14:59 GMT

#6264

We had no idea what JL's hp was. How exactly would you have known that Risen shielded JL if he did?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 15:06 GMT

#6269

On December 12 2013 00:03 Mocsta wrote:

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umm. his HP could only be between say 800-950HP realistically based on KP hero flips.
850 was a safe estimate.

We already knew he took dmg Night 1, so was around the 750HP mark.

Town had the potential to stack at least 300kp on him.
A shield of 300, leaves his hp @ 750... pretty clear something suspicious occurred.

You say that but we have no idea if mafia has other medics, etc. And how is 850 hp a safe estimate lol. We already know some people have 1k+ hp. If he survived with like 500 hp would we really be that suspicious that he must have been saved by risen. I doubt it.

Anyway we can discuss this again if JL flips red.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 15:07 GMT

#6270

On December 12 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Every role has at least 1 hidden ability. Risen has not claimed what his is.

I thought Risen's hidden ability was the shield? Or is shield part of his mason power?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 15:12 GMT

#6273

My bad then, I would agree Risen seems like he is bsing.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 16:54 GMT

#6319

jcarl why did you recommend super to use his check on jay if you knew you had given him the lantern? Also n2 chez was the only one who died but ticklish took 849 damage. You thought you also somehow took damage?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 17:30 GMT

#6327

Rayn- I did initially think VE taking damage made him town but then he didn't use the town cred like I would have expected a town VE to and I decided there was the chance that mafia hit their own guy just for cred and now VE was coasting. This especially seemed possible when they didn't hit VE again n2 and just let him get another check in.

Jcarl's lantern plan seems somewhat plausible to me I suppose. Seems like kind of a ridiculous plan to make up and lie about as mafia, and for what gain? Apparently SS check went through and saw that jay is indeed a VT so not like mafia was trying to hide jays role.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 11 2013 17:37 GMT

#6330

jay what do you think about LSB? You seem to feel his case is terrible why arent you suggesting him as a lynch candidate.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:01 GMT

#6422

LSB what is your second power? Onegu what is your second power? Rayne what did you say your second power did again?

Kush and Roffles need to role claim.

The most recent list I could find was this

jcarlsoniv - Thresh
kushm4sta - ??
Rean - VT
JonnyLaw - ?? (not VT)---Evelyn
ticklishmusic - Taric
gtrsrs - VT (possible)
Roffles - ??
Onegu - Malhazar
VisceraEyes - Lux
Risen - Karma
supersoft - Twisted Fate
raynpelikoneet - Shen
Mocsta - VT (possible)
Mig -Cho'gath
Oatsmaster - ??--VT (confirmed)
jaybrundage - VT (confirmed)
LSB - Tryndamere
Koshi - Viktor
mkfuba07 - KP Townie---fiddlesticks
justanothertownie - ?? (not VT)---annie
sandroba - Fiora
Meapak_Ziphh - Wukong

We know nearly every role and most of the secondary powers. We also know mafia has a roleblock, we should be able to narrow this down to only a few possible people.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:02 GMT

#6423

I really have doubts about MZ's second power. Your claimed second power MZ would literally be the worst power in the game. Every other known second power either helps with your original power or is significantly stronger. Yours is just unbelievably terrible. Seems hard to believe.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:15 GMT

#6425

k all future lists will include you as VT, tonight need you to move someone 1 spot to verify. Who did you try to pick again?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:17 GMT

#6428

Right now I see the possibilities for the roleblocker as

MZ -2nd power
Onegu - 2nd power
LSB - 2nd power
Mocsta/kush/gtrsr if any of them are lying about being VT
Roffles.

Not a lot of possibilities here.

Teemo Roffles?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:22 GMT

#6429

Kush/roffles who do you guys want to lynch today?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

December 12 2013 02:30 GMT

#6433

mocsta claimed he tried to take fiddlesticks right? And this was before fuba flipped. So seems like he is very likely telling the truth about being VT.