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I'm leaning green on geript, but I have a hard time reading that dude. I probably won't lynch today, but definitely NOT because rayn said he's town.
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On December 02 2013 15:08 Roffles wrote:
I think gtrsrs just doesn't give a fuck anymore because he didn't get his champ of choice and is stuck as a vanilla townie.
To me it all makes sense cause I know he probably just picked a champ he likes playing in the actual game (Khazix) and seemed cool in terms of skills here (he announced he was doing this too), but wasn't able to grab him and now just starts screwing around cause he's got nothing better to do.
He hasn't done anything - including screwing around - since we got roles. And he wasn't doing anything /before/ we got roles that he would have /stopped/ doing when we did. This defense doesn't make any sense.
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geript has been pretty open with what he has found suspicious at least skimming over his filter. And theres a few posts that are in quick succession that kinda lead me to think he's actually thinking about the game rather than putting on a show of it.
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MZ you need to buy wards because I'm rushing Athenes.
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Oats why is geript scummy?
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Oats why do you think geript is scummy?
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Rayn I'd be interested to see where you think I discredited you for no reason.
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On December 02 2013 15:23 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 02 2013 15:08 Roffles wrote:
I think gtrsrs just doesn't give a fuck anymore because he didn't get his champ of choice and is stuck as a vanilla townie.
To me it all makes sense cause I know he probably just picked a champ he likes playing in the actual game (Khazix) and seemed cool in terms of skills here (he announced he was doing this too), but wasn't able to grab him and now just starts screwing around cause he's got nothing better to do. He hasn't done anything - including screwing around - since we got roles. And he wasn't doing anything /before/ we got roles that he would have /stopped/ doing when we did. This defense doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry but since when does every townie have to be pro-town? The fact is, I dont see how what he has pushed is (1) Letting him blend in -- which scum usually want or (2) Pushing a scum agenda. Fact is, im pretty pissed ima VT, so I can feel his pain and agree. Helps me think hes the same as me. At least scum still have a QT and/or factional KP. I got nothing.. I think his position is reasonable.
1) I never said every townie has to be pro-town.
2) I never said he was trying to blend in OR push a scum agenda.
I said what he said seemed disingenuous - that he didn't really care about non-content posts because HE HAS MADE NOTHING BUT non-content posts. That's scummy to me - it could be indicative of any number of scum mindsets, INCLUDING trying to blend in AND push a scum agenda.
Like, here's the way I see it - he's complaining about how much he has to read and how hard it is to keep up and whatever - except, there's NO evidence of him actually reading the thread or coming to any kind of conclusions about what he's read at all. So what does he care what the thread /looks/ like?
It's the scummiest shit in the thread so far to me, you're not going to talk me out of it by going "Hey I feel his pain". I don't feel his pain. But I'm going to make him feel mine.
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On December 02 2013 15:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn I'd be interested to see where you think I discredited you for no reason. In about half of your posts.
You wanna try again without the blatant hyperbole?
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Like if this is how you're going to play then I'll just ignore you - I think you're probably town but that doesn't mean I have to read a fucking thing you say rayn.
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Bum you just jealous. You tried to pick Lux didn't you? 
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I'm not gonna get sniped haven't you heard? I suck at Mafia! :OOOOOOOOO
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Srs though man I was third pick, did you expect me to NOT claim what I picked?
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On December 02 2013 15:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:28 geript wrote:
##vote oats (change from jay) fuck that oats. U gonna die. I've had a scum read on you since like a while. oh really. So before or after this? Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 20:04 geript wrote:
Oh god. Now we have to lynch oats too. I mean, who comes into a game going into each others face? Someone faking it. Scum. Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 14:17 geript wrote:On November 30 2013 14:14 jaybrundage wrote:On November 30 2013 14:00 geript wrote:On November 30 2013 13:58 jaybrundage wrote:On November 30 2013 13:50 geript wrote:
Can we lynch Rean already? I like Rean he's trying to roleplay his character (DoubleLift) who would mean hes town cause hes not on SKT I would think. But then there would be more players on SKT then mafia slots. So it is possible he could be mafia as LiftLift and if he was mafia with the balls to say his real role name (DoubleLift was a big SKT fan in the shoutcasting) But given his general game play so far i am gonna go with my gut and say town. First off... how do you know that Rean is DoubleLift and two why would not being on SKT mean that he must be town. Scum are always given fake names to use. Why are you so sure on his alignment based on nada? He's Doublelift cause he called everyone trash.... Duh. Also i am learning to use apostrophes. I'm writing a post on it thank you for your help. No, the only reason why you'd expect him to be honest about his claim is because you're scum. Just like how only mods can recognize a fake nuke and make a joke about it. You're scum. Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 14:30 geript wrote:On November 30 2013 14:28 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Lol, Geript why are you so mad? You write that and then write a angry response to me in the same minute..
I will assume that you're bad at the game and wait for VE to side with me when he gets back. Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 14:38 geript wrote:On November 30 2013 14:37 JonnyLaw wrote:
All right, so why in the hell would we not ban talon?
Saying it's an easy cop out and a bad mafia player will pick it is terrible logic. What you're saying is if someone is suspicious and rolechecked as town then we should lynch them. Why even allow that possibility in the game?
Yorick and graves are also solid ban choices. Yorick's is ridiculously strong for scum.
Yo, Geript back off of Jay. Do you even LoL? So he's claiming a town spot with the trash posts what does it matter at this point? He's trying to set up a ban priority list. It's just not phrased well. You're not even reading.... FAIL!!!! Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 10:40 geript wrote:On December 01 2013 10:39 Kenpachi wrote:On December 01 2013 10:37 geript wrote:
At Rayn. What you think of Mocsta? Why do I feel like you're mafia Probly because you're bad at reading obv town. Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 10:45 geript wrote:
Yah I'm just going to put you on ignore. I don't have a real read on VE; I feel like he's intentionally playing different. As for Mocsta, I don't understand why he didn't give a reason with his random bans. I figured he would've abstained instead. Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 06:50 geript wrote:
Koshi is probably town for his ridiculous stance on Yorrick. All of this stuff is within the first 24 hours or so
Well, most of this stuff is mild on the geriptometer-of-aggression. But I don't disagree with your conclusion.
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No I DO disagree with your conclusion. You think he's scum for being aggressive?
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Re: Kenpachi - I have no idea son, I've played several games with him and I still can't read him. Maybe through association after a couple of scumflips?
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On December 02 2013 15:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 02 2013 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How is this so hard MZ? Tell me how VE is helping the town. Where is he transparent and contributing to proving his towniness? Can you actually quote some posts of his and tell how they help the town instead of giving a textbook town qualities and say "VE fits into the category of people who do these things"? Did you actually read what I wrote? Everyone acts "townie" slightly differently. In VE's case that is characterized by not very thought out posts, chain of conscious type posts, frustration and aggression when people call him scum, and genuine attempts at analysis. All of which are in this game. I'm not gonna go back and quote his entire post history. Forget for a second that he called you an annoying jerk-off and reread what he's written and tell me where the scum agenda is. But there is no analysis. Not a single one. On before D1 i mean. I can't understand how you can possibly have a town read on him based on N0.
NO ONE WAS DOING ANYTHING RAYN! YOU JUST SAID IT'S STUPID FOR PEOPLE TO CALL PEOPLE OUT FOR NOT ANALYZING PRE D1 AND THIS IS YOUR ONLY REASON FOR THINKING I'M SUSPICIOUS AND IT'S ALL YOUR FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!
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YOU CLEARLY CAN'T READ ME FOR SHIT RAYN AND YOU SAY THINGS LIKE
On November 30 2013 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
notes on your notes:
Firstly, thanks for having the posts linked.
I don't think we'll agree on sandro atm, I agree my reasons are bad, but it's picking the shinniest of the turds atm. It's only a few hours into the game so I think the best thing is to let it develop more.
VE is always insecure. Like literally always. You may be right about sandro being scum but if there's one thing I can tell you in a game of mafia is when VE is town.
One thing I think people need to watch for is supersoft's aggression level, because if he gets the KP he wants he will suddenly get hyper aggressive. This isn't necessarily alignment indicative but who he threatens will be.
I think jay would be a decent early lynch target.
Finally, as much as I think you're probably town right now, I strongly caution you against making a pick order like this. You can't control if the people towards the end pick lower numbers and fuck over your entire plan. A variant of this plan is trotted out every PYP game because inevitably the people who are last pick higher. Not because they're scum but because they joined a PYP game to play fun roles. Also while it's simple in theory to figure out who broke the plan, it's always much harder in practice.
I will refrain from sending in my numbers and see if you can get people on board with your plan but I just wanted to caution you of the downsides.
I know the pick order plan won't most likely succeed because there are always some idiots who won't agree to any plan. However that's my plan and i'll go with it, people agree or they don't, i don't care. As i said i am pretty good in finding townies and in last PYP game i would have assigned 6/6 townies in top of the picking order based on the first ~18h of the game. I can read VE well too i think. town!VE is not wishy-washy. VE here is wishy-washy as hell. I asked him about his playername. He did not give an answer. He had no real opinions on anything, he "maybe thought" some people were town for some reasons. He's also not "happy" as he usually is. I would expect him to be more interested in the game than he is atm. I am not confident in my reads on supersoft and Sndroba but that's where i stand atm.
AND IT FUCKING INFURIATES ME BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ ME FOR SHIT RAYN
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I don't know about MZ - I wouldn't say I've been a pillar of towniness, but I've posted a shit-ton more than some and a hell of a lot more than I probably would as scum. It's hard to say because he's basing it mostly on meta. I will say that he's on the same wavelength that I'm on regarding gtsrs and that's content I can get behind.
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I like how Mocsta thinks the only case in the game is driven by a scum agenda. That's fantastic. I think on that note I'm going to bed.
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