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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#1395
On December 03 2013 03:11 geript wrote:
@jcarl... Do you think lsb is scum?


potentially - SS's case on him isn't bad

On December 02 2013 15:47 Risen wrote:


can you do something please?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#1398
On December 03 2013 03:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 03:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2013 03:03 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 03:01 LSB wrote:
On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:
On December 02 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, can you give me quick reads on the following people (a couple of words will do fine):
supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie.

SS - Null.
Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game.
I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null.

Geript - Soft town lean.
Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie.

OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean
Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII.

Storrzerg - Null
No idea, nothing really to work off

Sandroba - Null
Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game.
Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out.

gtrsrs - Soft town lean
I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.

Oatsmaster - ??
It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally.
He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good...
I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips??

Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean
He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting?


I'm still reading the thread, but I don't know if this is normal for Mocsta, but this post is a classic example of saying a ton that doesn't make up for anything. To me Mocsta is posting a lot to seem like an active townie, but nothing substantial but "null" or "leans" that really are just filler and don't contribute anything to the discussion.

##Vote: Mocsta

##Unvote; Mocsta Oops I didn't see this was a response. I will revisit this accusation after I finish reading the thread


So, you're scanning the thread looking for something to pinpoint as opposed to reading the thread and understanding contexts?

Come on LSB, I know you're better than that.

This seems like a weird way to attack him. You know he's better and he's not being better but he's only potentially scum? It's such an odd push entirely. Nothing you've said will force him to respond. What's you're point in making a blah post?


Your filter is really interesting. Harping on a few people - asking more people about completely different people.

I see no focus. I see no substance. I see you looking like you're contributing, but I don't see a whole lot from you.

You started the game out hyper aggressive. Some was directed at me. Some people mentioned that you are just an aggressive towns player. However, as the game has continued, it seems you've backed off your aggression more and have become complacent - more polite. It doesn't sit right with me.

Don't come to me and talk about "blah posts". Your two "votes" have hardly had any reason to be thrown out. They aren't doing anything. Oh, wait, let me look. You haven't even voted in the voting thread.

You're blowing smoke out of your ass, and you're at the forefront of my list.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#1402
Good catch on bum, LSB.

Unfortunately, the only way I would know of you being able to prove which one of you is tryn (if bum claims that) would be to sweep through some peeps. It's not much damage, but it's something I think we would want to avoid having to do.

Bum - you made a whole list to try and get yourself tryn - why didn't you pick it (assuming LSB isn't lying).
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:40 GMT
#1404
Which is why I'm working under the assumption that LSB is not lying.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#1405
On December 03 2013 03:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Which is why I'm working under the assumption that LSB is not lying.


And I now realize that my thoughts on LSB are conflicting and I'm confused now.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:48 GMT
#1408
On December 03 2013 03:40 marvellosity wrote:
Mafia would never fakeclaim Tryndamere because it's ridiculously suicidal. It's so easily proven.


And what if it isn't a fake claim? What if it is mafia LSB that has tryndamere?

LSB - why did you pick tryn when it seemed bum would do so?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 19:45 GMT
#1433
Sounds like work.

I do agree it would be good to know where Kass is. The one ability we know about is very strong and should be kept track of/utilized. I'm assuming his other ability is a self re-locator - his other skills in game wouldn't really make sense for this.

How do you know Kass is in the game for sure? I mean, I think it's safe to assume at least one person tried to take him, but did I miss something confirming that?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 19:46 GMT
#1434
On December 03 2013 04:43 geript wrote:
So jbrundage or carlsonuv?


I'm feeling geript.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 19:50 GMT
#1440
On December 03 2013 04:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Beca use the revealed power is role blocker/watcher right?


Kassadin - Null Sphere - Each night during the one hour resolution period, you will receive the results of two actions that have been submitted at random (X damage, roleblock, X heal, etc.) and their targets. You may choose to silence one of the actions, causing it not to resolve.


Yeah.

Wait, geript, are you calling me a lurker?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 20:07 GMT
#1449
Nice of you to join us Risen.

What are your scum reads?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#1456
On December 03 2013 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
Although I am pretty curious that you dislike me, given I've essentially been helping to push your lynch target, VE. That's kinda weird.


If that was a viable defense then scum would never be caught for bandwagoning...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#1464
As much as I enjoy the banter between you guys, I really wish more people were around.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#1473
On December 03 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
soniv I just filtered you for that remark. I told geript I think you're town earlier. I retract that - your filter is bad and I confused you with another J name in the game when I was talking to him. Who do you think is scum and why?


If you've really read my filter, you would know that I think geript is scum, and you would know why I think he is scum.

The only other J name you could have confused me with is justanothertownie, and I have huge doubts that this is true.

The people I want to hear from more before I make more opinions:

-gtrsrs for obvious reasons
-bumatlarge for trying to orchestrate himself getting Tryn and then not picking it
-Risen because he still hasn't provided his own scum reads

There are still tons of people that we've heard very little from.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 21:23 GMT
#1476
On December 03 2013 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
JohnyLaw is who I confused you with.


reading lists is hard - I was looking for lower case Js lol
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 21:42 GMT
#1489
On December 03 2013 06:37 kushm4sta wrote:
ok so your case is based on activity mainly?


Did you even read his post? His case on you is based on your posting.

On December 03 2013 06:35 JonnyLaw wrote:
Did you read the filters from his last games? He actually participates, reads the thread and tries to hunt scum. He's agro and pushing an agenda.

If he doesn't contribute I have no problem policy lynching him as a last resort. Until that happens I'd rather focus on people we can read since they're actually playing the game.


This appears to be concerning gtrsrs.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#1506
On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 19:38 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2013 05:28 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:13 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 02 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2013 00:47 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
You never answered the actual point jay - if you think I'm amazing scum, do you think I would have played how I have so far?

If so, why? Please justify yourself, because your previous post was just nonsense

I dont have a great reason that you could be scum. That was my point of my post your a good scum player so its hard to make a case on you. I have thought you were town lots of times and found out later you were scum. Your difficult to read but my gut says scum.

Have you even been in a game I've been mafia in?

Yes

Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you.

In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly.

Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos

So "once" then, not "lots of times"

That was a gross exaggeration, wasn't it, jay?

Why did you grossly exaggerate?

During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.

Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 16:46 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2013 16:23 Mocsta wrote:
On December 02 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote:
On December 02 2013 15:58 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gtrsrs just didnt really post anything after day 1. I think its far more likely for scum to do that because they dont see anything instantly to contribute, he just bitched about not getting khazix

If he's scum, what's to gain from posting really dumb shit instead of just staying quiet like half the players?

Sir Roffles
Do you have an opinion on someone <other> than gtrsrs?

Jaybrundage screams red. Just complete wishwash nonsense from him. Inactivity for a while after trying to "unsuccessfully" instigate plans he never had any intentions of carrying out.

Think MZ's red too. Don't have previous experience for me to draw information off, but his play seems super hostile for no apparent reason, especially when someone briefly mentions his name in passing as "could be scum". Doesn't make any sense to me why anyone would be so super defensive so quick.

With gtrsrs you gave some insight into why you think his motives were townie.

With Jay + MZ can you have detailed some actions you find odd/scummy. Can you please walk me through why the motives are pushing a scum agenda.

As I've said before with Jay, I just find his overall posting mannerisms not fitting to that of a townie. Everything is "What do you think" instead of stating as a matter of fact. Yes, you can probably chalk it up to poor play, but it's also what scum does (they like to stir shit up). Throw in the fact that in the middle of being accused, he attempts to throw in random tangent posts to potentially deflect stuff off him.

He then goes on and accuses marv for probably the most ridiculous reason of all (I've seen him play a good mafia, so we should kill him). Can you chalk that up to being bad? Because he does have games played before. Add on top of that some timely no posting (He's been pretty active last couple of days) that coincides with the release of roles, and to me you have someone that has a good chance of either being bad town or red.

As for MZ, I just think he's red cause of how he was super aggressive/borderline hostile when his initial propositions against gtrsrs and geript turned back onto him. I just think he's trying to get gtrsrs lynched for being a bad townie player, buying scum an extra day. Fairly simple, I think gtrsrs is green and MZ's just trying to use him as lynch bait because gtrsrs's play has legit been pretty awful and borderline scummy, which is perfect for him to hide behind if he gets the traction and support of many.


Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie.

My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.


The amount of meta and WIFOM defense in this post means this is the value I got from this post:

On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:


If marv was just a gut read - what are your actual reads right now. If he has become a more solid scum read for you, what has made it so?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#1532
@LSB: Not claiming right now. But the main concern for town is getting smacked with random big KP and not knowing who to hold accountable, right (obviously there are other concerns, but big damage can be scary in this set up)? I have no ability to deal damage.

@Jat: for convenience.

I've linked an example of some town reads from Rayn. He says everyone on this list he had as a town read (this is a bit older, opinions are subject to [have] change[d]). I think geript is scum, gtr very well could be, at the very least. Most everyone else is/was fairly null.

I just have a hard time having town reads on that many people so early on. But he continuously feels confident on his town reads.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 22:47 GMT
#1542
On December 03 2013 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, my love, that's a Mattchew-Hogwarts case and not a Seuss-## case.


I'm not sure if this is a compliment or a diss, but the case makes sense to me.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#1546
On December 03 2013 07:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, my love, that's a Mattchew-Hogwarts case and not a Seuss-## case.

I know it's not perfect. but the tldr of Kurmui filter is this.
+ Show Spoiler +
1) WARRRRRWWWWWICCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK
2) I got a master plan around the draft numbers.
3) These 15 people are suspicious for reasons that aren't reasons.
4) Mass blue claim please and we are doomed if somebody doesn't massclaim.
5) I forgot the master plan around the draft numbers.
6) Do not dare to say I am scum or you are scum.


K. It's now out of my system.


I will probably just sheep somebody somewhere.


Koshi, is it ok if I sheep you?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2013 22:56 GMT
#1553
On December 03 2013 07:55 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:49 Koshi wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, my love, that's a Mattchew-Hogwarts case and not a Seuss-## case.

I know it's not perfect. but the tldr of Kurmui filter is this.
+ Show Spoiler +
1) WARRRRRWWWWWICCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK
2) I got a master plan around the draft numbers.
3) These 15 people are suspicious for reasons that aren't reasons.
4) Mass blue claim please and we are doomed if somebody doesn't massclaim.
5) I forgot the master plan around the draft numbers.
6) Do not dare to say I am scum or you are scum.


K. It's now out of my system.


I will probably just sheep somebody somewhere.


Koshi, is it ok if I sheep you?

Why ask? Just sheep. You're actually another person I have bad feelings on.


You're adorable.
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