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Twas the day 1 before lynch, and all through the thread The townies were wondering who should be dead. Despite the clamor of bad townies to echo their message Bum knew his word was the real visage "J-Carl is the mafia, I have good proof here" Most townies nodded, and bum was held dear! But then LSB, with a smile quite wicked, said, "but am I Tryn, which Bum supposedly pick-ed?" The townies winced at the thought, but that wince slowly faded "Yeah Bum, how come no Tryn?"; LSB was elated. "Well this isn't fair, is this a cruel joke by the hosts?!" Sniggered LeanSoggyBacon, "I just don't read your posts!"
As the votes piled high, Bum knew he could show 'em. "I'll show them real good, with a quite epic poem!" I think Jcarl is mafia, or my name is not Bum But did you know geript, is rival, is probably scum? Though I may fall short, because I have to use waffles, to rhyme with my next guess, who is most likely Roffles I feel really bad because kushm4asta seems new but he can't think I'm townie, he's not smart enough to knew.
More, I know not, but I can give a few guesses of people who might wear blood-stained red dresses. Although, guaranteed, he is our DeeTee, To claim is lackluster, you naughty VE What kind of person needs to claim that to Lux he is wed? An easy read, most likely, and I have a hunch he's red. I'd watch out for this guy, his name isOatsmasta He called me townie too quickly,like one other m4sta
There may be more that I'm missing, that I have simply not found. But if you were not mentioned, then I think you are town! I may not be the townie you needed right now, but I'm the one you deserve, and this lynch I'll allow. + Show Spoiler +
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Wait, so now we might lynch Jay after my sweet death post? Awkward...
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On December 04 2013 11:00 Mig wrote: So bum you feel that the entire scum team is made up of lurkers and new players? (besides possibly LSB)
Can you please explain the lux pick. You ranked lux as one of the strongest roles and thought you could get it at 15?
Pretty much you can blame Risen. I was going to go with a strong vet role like garen or mordekaiser, and I thought I could probably lure at least one hit if I scumhunted hard. But when Risen said he was just going to pick his favorite champ instead of lux/vet, I didn't want to risk no one taking it. I'd rather be vanilla then not have Lux in the game.
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On December 04 2013 11:01 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:00 justanothertownie wrote: It is a sweet post but why oh why do you take the little time you have to rhyme instead of trying to convince us that you are town? I will never understand this kind of behaviour it was the same with iamp in noir. Shameless +1 I wish he detailed why Geript is scum too. I find it highly unlikely that jcarl/Geript shared scum to scum interactions.
It's pretty easy. It's not bussing, but arguing in thread with scum buddies is a pretty easy way to go under the radar, and you tend to get a safety blanket if people consider it when they analyze you. I'd expect two lesser mafia who are good at working together to do it. I've done it before... I think.
If there are any rolechecks in the game, I'd give jcarl a peek. If he's kassadin he's 100% scum. In fact, any Kassadin is scum at this point unless they claim real soon and with a good reason why they waited.
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On December 04 2013 11:07 Mocsta wrote: At least with Bum theres some glaring inconsistencies which I don't understand and he hasn't made an effort to enlighten us about either.
Please keep asking, I think it's important for me to answer at this point.
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On December 04 2013 11:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What does Risen have to do with the rest of town's propensity to pick roles that give them information about who is scum vs town in a direct, mod confirmed fashion?
Because he openly said he was not going to pick lux after I told him he should. 1) No one else claimed they wouldn't follow my list in that fashion, even JonnyLaw at least gave a good reason as to why he wasn't taking tryndamere 2) Again, if someone had claimed they would take Lux before the draft ended, I probably would have let it slide. You went and claimed it after the draft ended. The absolute worst time to do so. I would never have said anything if you didn't, and I'm sure the other person who tried to pick Lux would have done the same as I did.
You've either disappointed me with choosing to make that play as a townie, or you did something I probably would have down as scum. I'm undecided because you are silly sometimes
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On December 04 2013 11:13 Mig wrote: I have a hard time believing your reasoning bum. This is your first game in over a year and it is a pyp. You would really risk being vanilla just to make sure the town gets Lux? Somebody was going to pick lux and if we believed everyone then like 4 people tried to. And I mean it seems obvious people weren't going to follow your plan so why wouldn't you expect any of the people ahead of you to pick it.
Don't worry about it Mig. Just know it's true when I flip.
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Kassadin is a selective Roleblocker, aside from Viktor, it's the strongest role for both sides. If it is in town's hands and he doesn't claim, it's good for town obviously, but we shouldn't have ignored BC and my sentiments that certain roles need to be known and on whom.
If scum has kassadin, thats basically a dead blue power for town 100% of the time. If town has kassadin and I rolecheck that person, I'm going to claim or him and try to lynch him in a vacuum.
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On December 04 2013 11:22 LSB wrote: Hahaha great poem Bum, though I'm a little confused by how you expect there to be 6 mafia and 3 sks in this setup
Sorry, the other bolded people were slight scum reads, not third party. BE HAPPY YOUR AMONG THOSE.
You tryndamer-taking-mother-fucker. Everything would be fine and dandy if you choose anything else.
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On December 04 2013 11:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I did so because I was third pick Bum what did you expect me to do? The top picks are like almost guaranteed to get champs so it's not like I wasn't already a target for scum.
Claim it first, so we don't try, or don't claim at all. Can't you see it's fairly scummy to claim something that strong at the wrong time, so people have to have a very good reason to actually read you?
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Also, people asking me to defend myself. I can't really defend myself for fakeclaiming role-denial. I like to be risky when I get the chance in mafia. This probably would have come back to bite me later, but this is much sooner then I expected, I was hoping to lead a lynch onto scum before I had to say anything.
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On December 04 2013 11:30 kushm4sta wrote:@bumlover Show nested quote + feel really bad because kushm4asta seems new but he can't think I'm townie, he's not smart enough to knew. not new at all. played a fuck ton of games. I have very specific reasons for thinking you are town. smd
You can't be that omnipotent. You'd have to analyze my past posts and come to the conclusion that everything I've done was to further advance Town's advantage over scum.
There is a super slim chance that you are not mafia hoping to get some cred when I flip green.
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On December 04 2013 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Are you saying that people don't have a very good reason to actually read me now Bum? Because I'm Lux?
They do, but your priority on the list of people that need to get analyzed shoots way down knowing your first ability does nothing for scum, and does so much for town. If I was 70% on you being mafia, it still would probably not be worth it to lynch you early.
I just want to make this strategy known.
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On December 04 2013 11:34 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:31 bumatlarge wrote: Also, people asking me to defend myself. I can't really defend myself for fakeclaiming role-denial. I like to be risky when I get the chance in mafia. This probably would have come back to bite me later, but this is much sooner then I expected, I was hoping to lead a lynch onto scum before I had to say anything. No follow. What do you mean fakeclaiming role-denial? "HEY EVERYONE IM TAKING TRYNDAMERE" Doesn't take tryndamere.
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On December 04 2013 11:36 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:31 bumatlarge wrote: Also, people asking me to defend myself. I can't really defend myself for fakeclaiming role-denial. I like to be risky when I get the chance in mafia. This probably would have come back to bite me later, but this is much sooner then I expected, I was hoping to lead a lynch onto scum before I had to say anything. Nobody cares about the fake claim. Like that's the least scummy thing you've done.
Usually I like to back things up with examples or at least fancy words. You have the rare talent or choosing not to do either.
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Don't be discouraged when I flip town. It's an honest mislynch. Just focus on analyzing more then powers.
Facts>Analysis>Powers.
Good luck town!
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Sorry I goofed up, I was in such shock that LSB managed to pick trynd. I lost my gusto to defend myself after that. I would probably make the play again, but I didn't want to pick something obscure so I went with lux. I would prefer full disclosure of role abilities as partial information leads promotes speculation, which I think was inefficient for both sides. Was 50/50 between lux and mordekaiser, but I didn't feel like I would have been a strong enough presence to abuse mordekaiser. Oh we'll good job team
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