EPT##Vote: MZ
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On December 02 2013 17:19 bumatlarge wrote: Mocsta, vote jcarl. You already figured out he was scum before I did. But you didnt vote him? lol | ||
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On December 02 2013 17:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Points 1-3 are accepted.jesus christ calm down, I missed it again. As you recognized I am currently dealing with other people. Point 4 -- I dont follow this conclusion. What has he done to shit the thread; even you acknowledge his post content is low. Further, he seems to be keeping everything within his own microcosm. Vote remains. | ||
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I disagree that he is scummy but I think I can see your point of view. Heading home. Will figure out my vote later on. | ||
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 Firstly, its pretty annoying to wade through 30 pages here my name is being tossed around and nothing is being addressed to me. - Regarding MZ was suspicious of MZ because I did not believe that someone could have such a strong read on a player with so little content at that point in time. In short, his approach felt identical to mine in Mafia LXII regarding Storrzerg. Whats the problem? Because what I am reading is that people are making association reads on gtrsrs to say stuff like "im chainsaw defending. " WTF? Secondly, I'm VT not fake claiming anything. I already crumbed what role I went for. "I play with myself" In a meeting. Be back in an hour. | ||
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Definitely didnt like the way he talked about me. Felt like he was trying to +1 onto bullshit. ##Vote: JohnnyLaw | ||
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On December 03 2013 10:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Hey guys, Mocsta is literally talking out of his ass. He couldn't have been suspicious of MZ for that reason because he had a town read on gtsrs to the point of hard defending him against me AND MZ, in spite of the guy having literally zero content in the thread. /dunked. Really? I pretty much alluded to it immediately when MZ made the case. On December 02 2013 15:17 Mocsta wrote: I disagree on gtrsrs & Geript. This sounds to me like you are trying to pick on poor play rather look into scum agenda. If Gtrsrs is trying to fly under the radar.. why are *YOU* noticing him compared to the 28 other people in the game. As for you; you made a point i disagreed with in general - not specific to gtr. /<No> Dunked | ||
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On December 03 2013 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Whether you say that's your reason or not is completely meaningless. You're doing it yourself, so if you would have us believe that you're town, then you're doing the exact same thing you're accusing MZ of. Having a relatively strong townread on someone you by all accounts you have no business having. MZ has reasons for having his read on me, which he's clearly laid out. What were your reasons again for thinking gtsrs was so obviously town Mocsta? You are the one jumping to conclusions and I don't like it. My read on gtr is irrelevant. I *believe* that you can't have such a strong read early game, in particular off troll content I that is easy to interpret to both alignments. Hence why I decided to probe MZ for more information on his motive. I dont see what the problem is? As for gtrsrs, I never had a *strong* town read on him. On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote: [gtrsrs - Soft town lean I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.  I had a soft town lean. Regardless of that, asking someone to clarify "they are pushing a scum agenda" does not equivocate to "having a strong town lean". | ||
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Cases say more about the accuser than the recipient. I was asking you guys to better articulate your arguments... because I wanted to know the motive of slamming what I thought was poor play vs scum play. Again. I don't see what the problem is here. | ||
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Then u need to get ya butt onto Jonnylaw. That guy was so wishywashy in his last couple posts. | ||
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On December 03 2013 11:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I've got my own lurker lynch lined up. Lay off my vote friend. Lol. How is johnny a lurker vote? He's tried to contribute by +1'n the vets. It's far from an activity policy lynch. | ||
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Geript aside. Thoughts on jonny? | ||
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LOL | ||
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On December 03 2013 11:32 jcarlsoniv wrote: I wouldn't be completely distraught if the lynch ended up going that way. The small case marv brought up is based somewhat on meta, so I can't really say too much about it. The posts you brought up as contradictions are kinda contradictions, it is a little bit of a stretch. But he has done fairly little in terms of actually being useful in the game. I wouldn't put him as a priority lynch today. But I do agree with him, I don't like the way kush is playing right now. I don't know why he's being so lacksidaisical about the way he's playing. Contradictions was rayn btw | ||
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U got me. I don't care about this game as much as I thought I would. All this hero talk early game went over my head and I'm missing out on the best part of playing in a pyp. Here's your wifom argument back at you. I enjoy scum. Would I be this uninterested as scum? Answer is no. When u have real questions for me, lemme know. | ||
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Too many PoI, Marv, pick a filter pls. (for me to read) | ||
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On December 03 2013 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta what do you think of Mocsta? This is a real question! I don't find my play fits into any category of my usual standard, because I am barely playing. Like I said before I'm struggling due to the early game. Every filter I have read has so much setup talk and I just go "ugggh" Why can't I be a sheep for once? | ||
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On December 04 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can be a sheep if you sheep me! But only for D1, then you have to start playing. Promise? Lol. Well Im reading the filters Kush suggested johnnylaw bum LSB we will take it from there. | ||
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On December 04 2013 00:01 kushm4sta wrote: mocsta these are the important filters atm i think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=JonnyLaw http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=bumatlarge http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=LSB ##Unvote jonnylaw First off, I think he "stole" my hero - so I might be prejudiced. Reading his filter I'm at loggerheads. - I cant follow his reads mid Day1 - they read like checklists and with some of the reads I dont even know if the lean is town or null. - I find him to be a lot more direct/assertive during the pick phase. Coupled with the point above I find pretty scummy. - Has a read on OWB/Kush.. that is weird. On one hand he is making some effort in his filter to push it, and on the other hand I don't feel he is making an effort to strengthen his read by talking to Kush. - I do like how he plays early Day 1 with Geript/Jay. It felt like he was stopping that feud and then tried to generate discussion with the right level of assertiveness. - I also misread him earlier when I said he +1'd me. That was prob OMGUS of me. Having said that, I dont see why it is relevant to call me out for making excuses. Doesn't take it anywhere either. Overall I think he has good potential to be scum. I really want to see him push his prime read (Kush) more. + I'm not sure if knowing he is a newbie is affecting my read. Bumatlarge On November 30 2013 23:56 bumatlarge wrote: good ##Unvote ##Vote: Urgot I know you went afk Mocsta, but if you do come back, please unvote caitlyn and vote LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE ;_; I dont like this post. To me its overplayed enthusiasm. Realistically, did my vote make a difference to the outcome? I just dont see the point to it other than filler. - I noticed in his list of heroes split into town/defensive/mafia that my hero is not listed - even though it had KP. This makes me wonder what else was left out? Prob a null point, with so many heroes its hard to keep on top of them all. On December 02 2013 17:19 bumatlarge wrote: I don't like this. I never called jcarl scum. Ironically, I take issue with bum here for the blatant appeal to egoMocsta, vote jcarl. You already figured out he was scum before I did. - I'm struggling to follow his train of thought. Still very setup focused - I dont get his stance on JL. Regarding the accidental vote, I'm not even sure if Bum is reading carefully if he points this out as non-accidental? - His read on LSB (who I haven't read yet) looks like hes leaving himself a backdoor. - I dont see where the Geript reads materialised? - I do like how persistent he is with Jcarl, but I dont know why he is so *certain* of this read. It felt really odd in tone to be included with his SK retort. Overall I'm really struggling to understand his line of thought/reasoning. Pick Phase he read like an excited kid gleefully figuring out which present to unwrap on Christmas Day. Im not getting that anymore. I think its unusual for town to be so stubborn on a lynch candidate this early. I think he also backpedaled his read on LSB when pressured by Marv in a scummy/wishy-washy way. I'm really disliking the continued setup speculation about powers and ultimates etc as well. Yeah, I can definitely vote this slot. ##Vote: Bumatlarge LSB - Vote on me is terrible. At least he dropped it without pressure. I'm really struggling to read his filter. Its painful. I disagree with what he is doing on so many levels (role fishing, policy lynching, list summaries) but at the same time I can't imagine a scum player being this ballsy. Surely it would have to set a precedent for bold play. Considering he was onto bum quite early; i dont see why scum would need to bus. so i am kinda association reading him as town. | ||
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On December 04 2013 02:14 gtrsrs wrote: soniv has claimed or crumbed that he doesn't deal damage. based on the most prominent characteristics of the champs on the list, he's likely to be one of the following: anivia - though in-game she's a high damage champ, her defining characteristics are her wall (her listed ability) and her passive, which allows her to come back to life a short time after being killed, with most or all of her HP back. amumu - not a high damage champ. is notable for all the crowd control (restricting opponents movement and actions) abilities he has. blitzcrank - like amumu, a low damage champ with lots of crowd control. known most for his listed ability, his hook. galio - his defining characteristics are his listed ability which is a shield that heals him, and his ultimate, which is a huge taunt (redirects attacks onto him) that affects a large radius around him. janna - she's a support character that shields, heals, and buffs allies. morgana - her defining traits are her black shield (listed ability) and her ultimate, which works like amumu's: a large stun in an area around her. she also has a single-target stun. orianna - while she is a high damage champ, she's more known for her high utility: shields, displacement abilities, and slows/speed buffs. she's likely to be able to scramble a mix of abilities for 1 night in addition to her listed ability shen - known for his taunt (listed ability) and his ult, which allows him to shield an ally for a massive amount, and teleport to their location. soraka - typical healer. can heal a single target, can heal the whole team, can silence enemies. zilean - known for his ult, which brings someone back to life after their death. of these champs, i believe it's most likely that soniv picked anivia, janna, or morgana. I retract my earlier lean.. im so tempted to swap votes right now.. the above is so fuckn pointless | ||
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