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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:06 GMT
#6541
On December 12 2013 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 18:24 supersoft wrote:
Meapak_ziphh is scum!

1. Coags bomb
The bomb makes very little sense to me. But one thing is kind of obvious. Why would Coag say he throws the bomb at MZ but actually throw the bomb at fuba, when MZ is town? This bombusage heavily incriminates MZ. The only reason, coag wouldn't throw the bomb at MZ is, that MZ is scum.

2. Meapaks abilities
This second abilitie seems to be fake. Everyone has their ultimates. Yes, rean pointed out, Ahri and Mundo have their ultimates as first abilitie. But unless anyone else claims, that he has no ultimate, this is a huge scumslip of MZ.
_____________________

##vote Meapak_ziphh

I don't think this is a good reasoning at all.
1) Why would Coag straight out incriminate MZ like that if MZ was scum?
2) "His ability seems fake" does not convince me. Why not let him prove it?

He can't prove it that easily. If he was town scum could fuck with it by shooting the person he shoots or by shielding them/roleblocking him whatever. If he is scum he could lie about all those things or he actually has this ability but didn't gave us the whole description because the 50 KP at 3 persons isn't all of it.
No, he won't be able to prove it and I won't wait to see that this is the case. Lynch him now.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2013 11:07 GMT
#6542
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:08 GMT
#6543
So let's look at the case:
On December 06 2013 13:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 12:29 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case.


#1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol?
#2) Your first quote about my LSB vote.
Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum?

#3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much?

#4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post.

Your extra observations.

#1) I didn't want to ban talon.
K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what?

#2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how?

You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling.

Your last quote against me.
I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum?

Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad.





Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances.

2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didnt mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasnt going to go through.

3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false.

4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isnt one of them.

5. The talon thing obviously wasnt a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and thats why we shouldnt ban talon. Im saying sometimes they are found sometimes they arent, so not banning him bassed on that is wierd.

6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didnt want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded.

7. My point is you never have stong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you dont have strong feelings for.


I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did.

I don't even look at the case because the answer and the answer to it is far more alignment indicative from both parties:
2 & 4: Lazy, not scum, as Onegu himself says in (4). Actually points (2) and (4)directly contradict each other.
3: misrepresentation
5: not a big deal, Onegu says this does not make Odin scum
6: retracts from this one
7: see (2) and (4). Did Onegu ever try to push a lynch on Odin? Does Onegu seem like he has "strong feelings" on anyone?

So my question is, how is the case good again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:09 GMT
#6544
On December 12 2013 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 18:24 supersoft wrote:
Meapak_ziphh is scum!

1. Coags bomb
The bomb makes very little sense to me. But one thing is kind of obvious. Why would Coag say he throws the bomb at MZ but actually throw the bomb at fuba, when MZ is town? This bombusage heavily incriminates MZ. The only reason, coag wouldn't throw the bomb at MZ is, that MZ is scum.

2. Meapaks abilities
This second abilitie seems to be fake. Everyone has their ultimates. Yes, rean pointed out, Ahri and Mundo have their ultimates as first abilitie. But unless anyone else claims, that he has no ultimate, this is a huge scumslip of MZ.
_____________________

##vote Meapak_ziphh

I don't think this is a good reasoning at all.
1) Why would Coag straight out incriminate MZ like that if MZ was scum?
2) "His ability seems fake" does not convince me. Why not let him prove it?

He can't prove it that easily. If he was town scum could fuck with it by shooting the person he shoots or by shielding them/roleblocking him whatever. If he is scum he could lie about all those things or he actually has this ability but didn't gave us the whole description because the 50 KP at 3 persons isn't all of it.
No, he won't be able to prove it and I won't wait to see that this is the case. Lynch him now.

I am not saying MZ is town becauce of Coag.
I am sayind supersoft's points against MZ are:
1) WIFOM
2) WIFOM

The case is bullshit. That's what i am saying.
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2013 11:10 GMT
#6545
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:12 GMT
#6546
On December 12 2013 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 12 2013 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 18:24 supersoft wrote:
Meapak_ziphh is scum!

1. Coags bomb
The bomb makes very little sense to me. But one thing is kind of obvious. Why would Coag say he throws the bomb at MZ but actually throw the bomb at fuba, when MZ is town? This bombusage heavily incriminates MZ. The only reason, coag wouldn't throw the bomb at MZ is, that MZ is scum.

2. Meapaks abilities
This second abilitie seems to be fake. Everyone has their ultimates. Yes, rean pointed out, Ahri and Mundo have their ultimates as first abilitie. But unless anyone else claims, that he has no ultimate, this is a huge scumslip of MZ.
_____________________

##vote Meapak_ziphh

I don't think this is a good reasoning at all.
1) Why would Coag straight out incriminate MZ like that if MZ was scum?
2) "His ability seems fake" does not convince me. Why not let him prove it?

He can't prove it that easily. If he was town scum could fuck with it by shooting the person he shoots or by shielding them/roleblocking him whatever. If he is scum he could lie about all those things or he actually has this ability but didn't gave us the whole description because the 50 KP at 3 persons isn't all of it.
No, he won't be able to prove it and I won't wait to see that this is the case. Lynch him now.

I am not saying MZ is town becauce of Coag.
I am sayind supersoft's points against MZ are:
1) WIFOM
2) WIFOM

The case is bullshit. That's what i am saying.

The coags bomb part is WIFOM. True.
The ability looks incredibly suspicious though.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2013 11:13 GMT
#6547
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

I have read his latest post. I also had a wtf-moment on his "scumslip".
I don't know. I do know I am going to vote you.

The second one shouldn't be your biggest scumread or it will make me look bad. We don't want that now do we?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:13 GMT
#6548
Onegu and LSB are far better lynches than anyone else.
##Vote: Onegu
##Vote: LSB


I don't think MZ is scum but i won't defend him either. Go ahead and lynch him if you want to but i think it's a mislynch since every scummy motherfukcer has been saying MZ is scum for ages without a real case.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:14 GMT
#6549
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

So you are saying scum tried hard to bus day 2 when it was absolutely not necessary because according to you town had 2 wagons on townies going?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:15 GMT
#6550
On December 12 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu and LSB are far better lynches than anyone else.
##Vote: Onegu
##Vote: LSB


I don't think MZ is scum but i won't defend him either. Go ahead and lynch him if you want to but i think it's a mislynch since every scummy motherfukcer has been saying MZ is scum for ages without a real case.

You got that wrong. Most scummy motherfukcers said MZ is town for ages now without good reasoning.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2013 11:16 GMT
#6551
On December 12 2013 20:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

So you are saying scum tried hard to bus day 2 when it was absolutely not necessary because according to you town had 2 wagons on townies going?

look closely, roffles never got near being lynched. It was always between austin and I.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:18 GMT
#6552
On December 12 2013 20:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

So you are saying scum tried hard to bus day 2 when it was absolutely not necessary because according to you town had 2 wagons on townies going?

look closely, roffles never got near being lynched. It was always between austin and I.

This is a blatant lie. Roffles was leading in votes for a while. If I remember it correctly even through a scum vote.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:18 GMT
#6553
Yeah well you have gotten everything just as wrong as i have in this game JAT so i wouldn't talk too much about who's right and wrong if i was you. At least in a manner you are atm.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2013 11:19 GMT
#6554
On December 12 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let's look at the case:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 13:27 Onegu wrote:
On December 06 2013 12:29 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case.


#1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol?
#2) Your first quote about my LSB vote.
Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum?

#3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much?

#4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post.

Your extra observations.

#1) I didn't want to ban talon.
K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what?

#2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how?

You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling.

Your last quote against me.
I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum?

Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad.





Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances.

2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didnt mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasnt going to go through.

3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false.

4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isnt one of them.

5. The talon thing obviously wasnt a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and thats why we shouldnt ban talon. Im saying sometimes they are found sometimes they arent, so not banning him bassed on that is wierd.

6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didnt want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded.

7. My point is you never have stong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you dont have strong feelings for.


I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did.

I don't even look at the case because the answer and the answer to it is far more alignment indicative from both parties:
2 & 4: Lazy, not scum, as Onegu himself says in (4). Actually points (2) and (4)directly contradict each other.
3: misrepresentation
5: not a big deal, Onegu says this does not make Odin scum
6: retracts from this one
7: see (2) and (4). Did Onegu ever try to push a lynch on Odin? Does Onegu seem like he has "strong feelings" on anyone?

So my question is, how is the case good again?

It is quite clear that you didn't read the case.
Onegu calls out Odin on point 2 & 4 for making a case on Kush that proves Kush is lazy but not necessairly scum.


But that is not my point. My point is that scum Onegu is more likely to buss teammates with a good but not too good case. Scum Onegu is unlikely to make a pretty awesome case on Odin who turns out to be town.

Could you just read the case entirely please? Tell me that comes from scum Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2013 11:19 GMT
#6555
On December 12 2013 20:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

So you are saying scum tried hard to bus day 2 when it was absolutely not necessary because according to you town had 2 wagons on townies going?

look closely, roffles never got near being lynched. It was always between austin and I.

This is a blatant lie. Roffles was leading in votes for a while. If I remember it correctly even through a scum vote.

lol who cares about early in the day, it's the last few hours that actually matter. Lots of people talk about roffles but nobody goes and votes for him after a certain point.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:19 GMT
#6556
On December 12 2013 13:27 Mig wrote:


Looking at the timing both of them voted Roffles when it was very close, Coag's vote put Roffles into the lead and then JL's vote tied him for the lead after Meapak was out front at 7.


raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:23 GMT
#6557
On December 12 2013 20:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let's look at the case:
On December 06 2013 13:27 Onegu wrote:
On December 06 2013 12:29 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case.


#1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol?
#2) Your first quote about my LSB vote.
Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum?

#3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much?

#4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post.

Your extra observations.

#1) I didn't want to ban talon.
K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what?

#2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how?

You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling.

Your last quote against me.
I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum?

Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad.





Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances.

2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didnt mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasnt going to go through.

3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false.

4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isnt one of them.

5. The talon thing obviously wasnt a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and thats why we shouldnt ban talon. Im saying sometimes they are found sometimes they arent, so not banning him bassed on that is wierd.

6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didnt want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded.

7. My point is you never have stong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you dont have strong feelings for.


I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did.

I don't even look at the case because the answer and the answer to it is far more alignment indicative from both parties:
2 & 4: Lazy, not scum, as Onegu himself says in (4). Actually points (2) and (4)directly contradict each other.
3: misrepresentation
5: not a big deal, Onegu says this does not make Odin scum
6: retracts from this one
7: see (2) and (4). Did Onegu ever try to push a lynch on Odin? Does Onegu seem like he has "strong feelings" on anyone?

So my question is, how is the case good again?

It is quite clear that you didn't read the case.
Onegu calls out Odin on point 2 & 4 for making a case on Kush that proves Kush is lazy but not necessairly scum.


But that is not my point. My point is that scum Onegu is more likely to buss teammates with a good but not too good case. Scum Onegu is unlikely to make a pretty awesome case on Odin who turns out to be town.

Could you just read the case entirely please? Tell me that comes from scum Onegu.

wtf are you talking about Koshi? If i remember correctly scum!Onegu made a case on a fucking near confirmed townie in ##'s game. So yes, i think he is capable of making cases against townies.

Again, the case is not awesome. I don't care about the case because it's irrelevant, the answer to the case is relevant. If i make a case on someone that looks reallllly good and when they answer it all that's left is "you are right, i was wrong" and contradictions, was the case good?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 12 2013 11:23 GMT
#6558
On December 12 2013 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
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On December 12 2013 13:27 Mig wrote:


Looking at the timing both of them voted Roffles when it was very close, Coag's vote put Roffles into the lead and then JL's vote tied him for the lead after Meapak was out front at 7.



Yeah I just went back and looked, all of that went down like 3 or 4 hours before the lynch was decided. Your point is completely invalid and more likely than not the intention of those two for voting roffles considering roffles has done nothing on his own to give himself towncred.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 12 2013 11:24 GMT
#6559
And ofc it clear i didn't read the case because i said so.. duh..
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 12 2013 11:24 GMT
#6560
On December 12 2013 20:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 20:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba talking so much about SK... Looks like VA from Sicilian.

Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future.

Thx.

koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch?

So you are saying scum tried hard to bus day 2 when it was absolutely not necessary because according to you town had 2 wagons on townies going?

look closely, roffles never got near being lynched. It was always between austin and I.

This is a blatant lie. Roffles was leading in votes for a while. If I remember it correctly even through a scum vote.

lol who cares about early in the day, it's the last few hours that actually matter. Lots of people talk about roffles but nobody goes and votes for him after a certain point.



supersoft (1): VisceraEyes, jaybrundage
Rean (0): raynpelikoneet
JonnyLaw (0): Mocsta, geript
austinmcc (5): Rean, sandroba, Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, sandroba, Meapak_Zipph
OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu
Koshi (0): Chezinu
kushm4sta (0): LSB, sandroba
ticklishmusic (0): ticklishmusic
jcarlsoniv (3): Risen, gtrsrs, kushm4sta, ticklishmusic
Chezinu (0): ticklishmusic
Meapak_Zipph (7): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi, kushm4sta, Chezinu
Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, supersoft, kushm4sta, jcarlsoniv, Coagulation, LSB, JonnyLaw
Risen (0): Koshi
VisceraEyes (0): jcarlsoniv
Mig (0): Chezinu
LSB (0): JonnyLaw

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