supersoft, about your post about banning Talon; Why do you want to ban that role over other anti-town roles? Especially considering this was pro-town:

Out of these the 3 I want to face the least are Yorick, because hiding alignment is too powerful and can cause a lot of confusion; Graves because eliminating alignment reversal can make a red check reliable; Tryndamere because of possibility of mass killing.

No Talon here in top 3..

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 11:27 GMT

#391

lol, Tryndamere is is like a scumclaim if used. If someone wants to claim scum be my guest.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 11:41 GMT

#397

On November 30 2013 20:30 supersoft wrote:
why would anyone take him and claim that he used him?

Because it's not like you don't know they used it.
Someone moves up 5 spots on the list and people in that frame take damage = lynch. EZPZ.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 11:49 GMT

#400

EBWOP:
Oh it was "up to 5 spots". Anyways, we should probably agree to not pick any of the powers that allows moving or move other players in player list. In that way if the roles are picked we can narrow them donw to scum. The "is this role in the game" can then check those roles and we just lynch the players that are assinged with those roles. Quite simple. Scum feel free to pick those roles, it becomes an instant scumclaim if you are one of those roles.

It would be good to ban those roles but i think it's better to ban info-denying roles and handle those player-movers that way. Or if someone wants to deny those roles just pick it, claim it, and never use it.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 11:54 GMT

#402

On November 30 2013 20:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

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Why do you not want to engage me if you think Im scum? Dont you care about what I think at all? You dont seem to be making any effort at all to have a back and forth conversation, instead preferring to snip at people and act all angry.

I don't want to have a back and forth conversation with you about something that's stupid because you are misrepresenting me in the first place. I am not angry at all, that's another misrepresentation.

If you are planning on talking about dumb stuff i couldn't care less to talk with you. My read on marv is based on the fact that his entrance was terribly weak. It's not a strong read and again you misrepresent me with your question. If i say i "feel like" someone is scum that's definitely not a strong read and if you are able to somehow twist it into what it looks like idk what to say.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 11:58 GMT

#404

I don't think what Oats has said so far actually makes him scum tbh.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 12:03 GMT

#406

On November 30 2013 20:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
So basically Im wrong about your read on Sandro? In what way exactly? How is marv's entrance week? What do you think it would be like as town?

I don't get why you think Sandroba has contributed anything. You say scum!Sandro does not post much at all. What Sandro did was gave a list of roles that anyone with a half of brain could have told are bad / dangerous if used wrong. Then he commented something irrelevant and said "cya in 36h ktxhbye". So yeah, not the most townie posts imo and by your definition of his town!meta i do not think it fits.

I would have expected more from marv. He just delurked, said he hasn't read the thread and then put his ban-vote on obvious ban role. Then he bitched about supersoft's read on BC in LXIII and compared it to this game. What? Does that make ss town? scum? wtf?

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November 30 2013 12:12 GMT

#410

On November 30 2013 21:06 Oatsmaster wrote:

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I say scum sandro posts like 1-2 posts, not like almost 10 or something. Read properly.
You said marv was scummy before he bitched about SS's read though. Why would scum marv do something so 'bad'?

Oh god. This is so annoying Oats..

If scum!sandro is not competent enough to make 10 posts about setup fluff in a game where you could talk about the setup for 100 days and there are no "obviously correct" answers then i do not believe he is a good player as town aswell. This discussion is dumb already.

About marv. Did you even read my post? I said his entrance was weak and i would have expected him to at least read the thread before posting ffs. How hard is that to understand? After he posted more my read on him strengthened. Why would he make "bad" posts as town? wtf are you talking about? Making bad posts is a town-tell for marv in your opinion?

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 12:13 GMT

#411

marv if you are planning to be lazy enough to net even read the thread we might aswell lynch you on D1. That's it.

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November 30 2013 12:17 GMT

#414

I'm picking a KP role and policy shooting Oats until he dies.
Locked.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 12:20 GMT

#417

Do i look like i care?

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 12:27 GMT

#420

Well i don't wanna play in a game where people say making bad posts is a town-tell for anyone and where people say i can't have a scumread on someone based on that they are incapable of posting 10 times / phase as scum.

I honestly don't give a fuck if you lynch me. I couldn't care less because lately TL town have been absolutely crap. Me + Risen should get top 2 spots and then we just shoot stupidity. That's the best plan.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 12:28 GMT

#421

I don't even care if Oats is scum or town, he can't possibly have good reads if his reasoning for his reads is what it seems like..

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 13:16 GMT

#425

Yes Oats, obviously i am not allowed to have scumreads on people who make bad posts. You are totally right and Sandroba and marv are obviously town because marv made no good posts and Sandroba can't possibly post more than twice / phase as scum. I got it.

Now we can all go back to "let's ban the framer role" and make 100 posts about it.

cya later, still picking [1][1].

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 13:21 GMT

#428

marv doesn't about what's best for the town while as town he does.
I have no clue about sandro but he sure is not helping atm if he is town.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 13:21 GMT

#429

EBWOP: doesn't care

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November 30 2013 13:48 GMT

#433

Oats if you suggest there is some tell like "marv says dude over dear when he is scum" you are wrong, because there is not. It's about what he is pushing and why. I feel confident in my ability in reading marv. Last game he was scum i literally shouted a lynch on him over a dude who was confirmed scum to me so..

Am i confident in saying he is scum atm? No, but i don't get any townvibes from him either. If you are suggesting my reads are strong at this point (like you are implying) then idk what to tell you, but the correct way is definitely not to shut down all discussion regarding certain people just because you feel like i am not allowed to have a scumread on someone for some shitty reason.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 13:49 GMT

#434

Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm.

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 14:18 GMT

#436

##Vote: Graves

raynpelikoneet

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November 30 2013 14:21 GMT

#438

Desert mini mafia.
No i think they are scummy until they start doi8ng osmething that actually matters. There has been a ton of discussion about people's alignments and they have not taken any part in it.