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austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:39 GMT

#3787

On December 06 2013 13:37 Mocsta wrote:

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So you are comfortable with a policy lynch on lurkers; just not you, correct?

Nope. But if VE's goal today is to kill a lurker, he should vote a not-me lurker.

I prefer lynching scum, and right now would target MZ.

Like so.

##vote: MZ

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:40 GMT

#3788

To mocsta and geript. I read Jonny and some case stuff.

Please read MZ

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:43 GMT

#3791

Kk. Gonna try and peek at sand, mocsta, and oats.

Rean looks funky from just pushing me all day for no reason to begin with. rayn and JAT should be town. VE unknown right now.

I would assume this isn't an entirely townie list of votes on me, so maybe I find something in those guys? Probably just looking at short filters tonight though.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:46 GMT

#3794

Side note while reading Sand.

He asks rean to keep thread in line and focus votes and whatnot. Rean says yup yup, love me some yelling at people.

Rean doesn't yell at anyone.

IIRC, someone found Rean townie because of him agreeing to yell at folks, it was like...too outgoing to be scum D0? Someone posted this. I remember them quoting those posts and calling him town.

That is super duper wrong because again, Rean doesn't keep people in line. Rean doesn't super discuss things. If rean is mafia, the person who said that looks worse imo.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:53 GMT

#3798

On December 06 2013 13:46 geript wrote:
@Austin. Not at home. I'll read him and you. Please provide a link to or quote of a case or bullet points on reasons.

@VE. You like me noted the odd easy majority on Bum and how it makes your ass itch. It makes mine tingle and not in a good way. Why didn't you do like me and start pushing a different lynch?

MZ starts strong-ish, pushing gtr with a fine earlycase. He COMPLETELY fades after this, and pressures nobody really.
Here is my point on MZ pushing/"pushing" LSB D1
On December 04 2013 11:27 austinmcc wrote:
MZ's interactions with LSB felt very...fluffy.
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On December 02 2013 14:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also really don't like LSB's claim. He's probably telling the truth about the role, but tryndamere is such a scum role it feels like he's trying to hide in plain sight by claiming it. He's barely posted so I can't really draw on a correlation between his behavior and possible motives for claiming but I don't like it and will be keeping a close eye on how he uses the role.

But let's leave gut feelings aside for now and get to some actual scum hunting.
MZ doesn't like his claim but thinks he's telling the truth but might be hiding in plain sight and hasn't posted enough to draw conclusions about behavior.

Then half or the majority of his posts from yesterday are just him sniping at LSB. + Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim.
On December 03 2013 12:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 03 2013 12:04 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim.

Yo, there have been multiple people questioning whether or not I'm actually Tyr and multiple people questioned whether even if I am Tyr if my self reported damage is correct. Sitting on my role is a horrible horrible idea and the quickest way to get lynched day 2.

Plus I want to kill Bum. Actually that's most of the reason

This is horrible horrible reasoning for a townie.

a) who cares what you are, I am of the opinion that the less information we give the scum team the better
b) being concerned about getting lynched is a very scum oriented mindset, townies have nothing to fear from the lynch because they are inherently innocent, it is a scum mindset to focus on not getting lynched.
c) nobody cares about how much damage you do, you took a scum role, it should never be used
d) the collateral damage your role does means it should never be used to target one person

Seriously LSB it's pretty clear you are not looking at this from a town angle. This is a PYP game, there are so many unknowns that the less kp townies throw around the better. The last thing I want to see is for this town to shoot itself to death while scum laugh their way to gg. You throwing kp around indiscriminately is the most blatantly anti town thing done in this thread so far.
On December 03 2013 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 03 2013 12:29 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:04 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim.

Yo, there have been multiple people questioning whether or not I'm actually Tyr and multiple people questioned whether even if I am Tyr if my self reported damage is correct. Sitting on my role is a horrible horrible idea and the quickest way to get lynched day 2.

Plus I want to kill Bum. Actually that's most of the reason

This is horrible horrible reasoning for a townie.

a) who cares what you are, I am of the opinion that the less information we give the scum team the better
b) being concerned about getting lynched is a very scum oriented mindset, townies have nothing to fear from the lynch because they are inherently innocent, it is a scum mindset to focus on not getting lynched.
c) nobody cares about how much damage you do, you took a scum role, it should never be used
d) the collateral damage your role does means it should never be used to target one person

Seriously LSB it's pretty clear you are not looking at this from a town angle. This is a PYP game, there are so many unknowns that the less kp townies throw around the better. The last thing I want to see is for this town to shoot itself to death while scum laugh their way to gg. You throwing kp around indiscriminately is the most blatantly anti town thing done in this thread so far.

It is evident that we have significantly different opinions on playing the game. I have no idea why you would think I would not be all for verifying people's roles when I have made it a significant part of my Roleclaim crusade.

wow, way to complete ignore everything I said, while at the same time verify my points that you aren't approaching this game from a town perspective. Roles =/= alignment, all you've done is blue hunt. The only people who benefit from that info are scum.

Since gtrsrs looks like he's headed for a modkill might as well put my vote somewhere useful

##Unvote
##Vote: LSB
On December 03 2013 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
To recap, all LSB has done is fish for blues.

On top of that, he's interested in confirming himself "so he doesn't get lynched." He's gonna use KP to confirm himself like I can't get over how anti town that is. And going back to his claim, I said this early on too, it has the feel of a scum trying to hide in plain sight by claiming a blatantly anti town role.

On December 03 2013 12:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 03 2013 12:35 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wow, way to complete ignore everything I said, while at the same time verify my points that you aren't approaching this game from a town perspective. Roles =/= alignment, all you've done is blue hunt. The only people who benefit from that info are scum.

I don't you have read my filter at all

Are you drunk?

Because that would explain a lot of what's happened over the last couple hours.

On December 03 2013 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB

For the love of all that is town

Stop. Fucking. Blue. Hunting
On December 03 2013 12:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 03 2013 12:40 OdinOfPergo wrote:
so per my previous post... his logic doesn't matter in the past few hours as alls he's done in the past day and a half is still bad.

You said it yourself odin, LSB's actions this game have appeared scum motivated.

On December 03 2013 13:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 03 2013 12:51 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB

For the love of all that is town

Stop. Fucking. Blue. Hunting

Seriously? You seriously think the best way to make sure said KP isn't being thrown around is to let roles have free will over what to do? Last thing we need is a Heimerdinger getting two turrets out, or an Urgot making a focus fire on one champion an instakill.

I have said time and time again that KP related roles should be claimed so they can be held accountable should they participate in suspicious actions. Okay, if you are vet/dt/medic you don't need to claim if you do not, but awnser this. Why shouldn't Vanilla Town Claim who they tried to pick or KP related roles claim the same?

This is complete fearmongering and speculation.

However:
(1) It doesn't feel like he's pushing his LSB scumread in the same way he pushed his townVE read, or even his very early bit on gtrsrs. He's directly engaging LSB, but rarely, if ever, is asking other people about LSB, trying to get their votes, etc. It's just...poking at a dude who is doing scummy stuff, over and over.

(2) I can understand finding "blue hunting" scummy. But in PYP games, THIS HAPPENS. People get caught based on picks, roles, power usages, it's...it's part of a PYP game. It's not odd for someone to hunt, and it's not TERRIBLE to hunt because it DOES catch a mafia or two in a lot of/most PYP/PTP games. I don't like MZ using the phrase "blue hunting" without ever seeming to discuss or consider that this is a different beast than a normal game, and blue hunting may not be the most scummiest thing ever.
Look at his posts on Koshi during N1 and D2. Or whenever they are. He SAYS Koshi is not a lynch option, b/c inventor. But he spends ALL HIS EFFORT calling koshi scummy and poking at koshi. He's rarely in thread, and when he is, he uses that time to push a dude that he admits town won't lynch as scummy.

That's the quick and easy starter. His filter LOOKS like he's identifying easy targets (LSB, inventor-only-never-townie-poster Koshi) and then just poking at them (amg blue hunting, amg you do nothing), despite never really pushing LSB at all and admitting that Koshi isn't a lynch.

Jonny isn't pushing lynches. MZ also feels like he's not pushing lynches. Except he's been around a fair bit longer and, imo, should be throwing more weight around behind his lynch choices.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:55 GMT

#3802

RE-SIDE NOTE: IT MAY HAVE BEEN SANDROBA TALKING ABOUT REAN'S SAYING HE'D KEEP EVERYONE IN LINE.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I MISREMEMBERED, AND REAN STILL DIDN'T DO JACK BUT SAND CALLED HIM ON IT, NOT SAID HE LOOKED FINE FOR IT.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:57 GMT

#3803

On December 06 2013 13:55 OdinOfPergo wrote:
That's a really funny post to bring up Austin as I had a couple questions myself.
It looks nice on the surface...but really what new are you adding?
What else other than picking easy points on people are you doing?
I mean the whole thing says "Pls Looks, I'm contributing" but I don't think you actually are.

Questions about...what post? My MZ post?

I bring it up because geript said he wanted bullet points to read on MZ. Yes, it's nothing new, it's a summary of old stuff I've said about MZ.

I post it cuz I'm asked for a summary of why MZ is mafia.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 04:58 GMT

#3807

Sandroba still townie. Kha'zix post. Calls out LSB for wanting a "friendly helper" to boost his damage so he can....spin across a bunch of people, likely hitting townies.

Checking oats, then off for the night.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:00 GMT

#3808

On December 06 2013 13:58 Chezinu wrote:
Hey Guys! I'm going mid.

whatsup austin?

Some dudes is apparently trying to lynch me.

The nerve.

Also, most of them are probably town. So, that's not great.

You got any passionate austin-is-town speeches? But only if you think I'm town.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:06 GMT

#3816

On December 06 2013 13:58 kushm4sta wrote:
@austin
your mz case is incredibly weak.
Part of it is you dont like his poking. This is very vague reasoning.
The majority of it has to do with BLUE HUNTING.
I don't think I've ever seen someone find mafia by identifying blue hunting.

Who is he poking at? A dude that he doesn't want to lynch.

Why is he spending all his time poking at a dude he doesn't want to lynch? + Show Spoiler +

You can say "but he DOES want to lynch koshi!" Except, he KNOWS that town won't lynch the inventor. He can see that. And if town won't lynch the inventor, why would MZ want to lynch the inventor? The only way it happens is a bunch of scumvotes, and that's...not a good way to get a lynch, so he should not want to lynch koshi

What part of that is vague? This is a dude who isn't getting lynched. If you know someone cannot be lynched, do you spend a bunch of effort trying to make them look scummy?

Do you think blue hunting is SUPER MEGA BAD in PYP games? Do you, at the very least, concede that blue hunting in normals and blue hunting in PYP games are different? Everyone asking for claims is somewhat blue hunting. People who want certain champs taken at certain spots are, in a way, blue hunting. It's part of PYP. It's part of PYP because, usually, it hits scum. This is true. People get caught with certain roles, or numbers they couldn't have picked, or etc. etc. Blue hunting is not just a scummy thing in PYP. MZ is picking a lazy and easy-to-recognize term and just chucking it around where it isn't valid.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:07 GMT

#3818

On December 06 2013 14:00 Mocsta wrote:

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Yeah. It's as if Austin is saying Mz is better than this , so he's scum.

Yet.. the same applies to Austin

What am I better than?

Other than activity, which I can't help right now, what parts of my posting this game have been crappy for austin (apart from the Rean meta thing, which was crappy). Any others?

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:14 GMT

#3825

On December 06 2013 14:03 Chezinu wrote:

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I totally get ya there. Was totally learning about that today.

As for austin is town speech, I can't say I have been around long. Today is the first time I have made contact with you. A speech is necessary. Can you help me with the content of this speech? Then, I can Chezify it.

The content is probably along the lines that rapscallions have taken over the thread, and made it so that thread is no longer the place where the cool kids want to party.

But.

But but but.

You and I, chez. We're bringing sexy back. The fun shall return to the thread (but not until after Sunday, because I'm gone til then). There will be songs, and poems, and speeches, and some pictures. There will be merriment. Bonus points if you ever saw We Sing in Sillyville and can reference it in your speech.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:17 GMT

#3834

On December 06 2013 14:13 kushm4sta wrote:

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He was poking koshi because he was trying to figure out koshi's alignment, I assume. Just because someone isn't a realistic lynch that day doesn't mean you can't poke at them.

Rant more about the difference between PYP and normal games, it's totally making you look town bro.

It's not a "that day" thing. Town isn't lynching the inventor barring SOOPER SERIOUS EVIDENCE. Not a case, not a suspicion, not whatever. But real mafia-favored-inventions, mafia never trying to kill him, etc. etc. I've been scum in a game with a town inventor before. You kill dat dude. Because every day you don't the game is SO MUCH HARDER. Maybe he confirms someone. Maybe he catches someone. Maybe he lies about what an invention does. You never know. It's a huge wildcard and it's pumping out town-favored stuff day by day. You can't have that, you kill him.

That's why town don't lynch no inventor. Or, my thoughts on why they don't. MZ doesn't say town won't lynch him today. He says town won't lynch Koshi. The End. You don't go to the store, say you don't want to buy any sweet potatoes, and then pick up every sweet potato in the bin to see how good they look.

You just walk by the sweet potatoes.

MZ didn't walk by the sweet potatoes.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:19 GMT

#3837

On December 06 2013 14:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
The one thing he mentioned to me specifically WAS good - the post about MZ saying Koshi isn't going to be lynched but poking at him anyway. Silly moves for someone who's accepting that Koshi isn't going to be lynched, regardless of what he thinks Koshi's alignment is.

Especially when he really didn't seem interested in doing much eeeeeeelseeeeeee.

And ... hasn't really. Not today. Not much of yesterday.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:22 GMT

#3846

I'm just going to note that after I start posting, we have poems and speeches and sweet potatoes.

That's the world I want to live in.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:24 GMT

#3847

VE it's just one ailment, and only because you asked me to bring sick stuff.

Most of my absence is non-sickness related.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:39 GMT

#3862

Google translate has an...odd interpretation of that text.

I'm hopefully around for a moment tomorrow morning EST, but otherwise, this is it for me today. I'm gonna be out of town and won't be able to defend myself/post/whatever.

If you kill me, I will think you guys made a bad decision, but would say:

sandro, JAT, odin, rayn town.

rean questionable. His tunnelledinness is wonky for scum, and wasting 50 dmg on me is also wonky. But I guess if he's mafia he has to do that, given that I'm his only read ever. Whatever. Give some more time and see how he plays.

LSB probably town. See reasoning from my D1 posts, but basically he just doesn't give up. Plus all the association jazz about bum being town then scumLSB being unlikely to pick trynd is true.

MZ likely mafia.

If rean/MZ are NOT mafia, then roffles needs scrutinizing. Yes, he's not on my list cuz I liked/shared a lot of his reads. Yes, if they're not mafia that means I was town and wrong, and am saying he might be scummier for being wrong. But I am. Deal.

Leaning town on Jonny, but he's very clearly been called out as ... less assertive and less sure that folks would like to see from town. It's on the record. If he doesn't read those things and try to come up with more certain scumreads, right/wrong who cares, just certain, and push them, then .... i still kinda lean town. Mocsta you can do with that what you will.

Onegu isn't tripping any alarms, he just played as town in LXIII, check his Odin case against any cases he made there. Off the top of my head, it didn't look particularly different, and I don't THINK he really doubles down as mafia and keeps pushing Odin. So I'm leaning townie on him.

Everybody else...don't know.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:43 GMT

#3865

On December 06 2013 14:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Austin, why did you start playing today only?

Because today is the first big, fat, free day I've had in a while. And I need to get posting.

Not alignment-indicative at all, but I covered things elsewhere, and then moved here. I have to leave town tomorrow, won't have computer access, and knew that I needed to place a reasonable vote and also just play. Had to catch up to see where the vote would go, and gotta play a little later than I should to try and defend myself.

I was surprised to find myself being lynched, tbh, and did put in a little more effort because of that.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:44 GMT

#3866

On December 06 2013 14:42 Chezinu wrote:
oh that text doesn't mean anything. I mean to type potatoes, but I accidently hit ctrl+shift instead of shift. My keyboard started koreaning and I just wrote something like, oh geez how do I not korean?

mmmmm hmmmmm. You "koreaned" some very interesting things there, according to translate.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

December 06 2013 05:53 GMT

#3874

On December 06 2013 14:49 Mocsta wrote:
Austin reads are funny.

Like everyone is town on town

Onegu/rean
Jonny/lsb

I promise I will read Mz tonight, but I'm not sold to be frank.
Esp with how u backpedal on rean.
The sequence of events recalls to me as
I debunked u on rean, so u went to read 2. Mz

Eh? I don't really care about your posts on rean, and completely disagree with anyone who wants to argue he was "discussing" bans (that one's mostly kush). The meta thing is troof. But he's still got posts this game on which to judge him, and at BEST I'd think you could go "eh, he's wonky, but I don't like your case." Dudes that never post any reads, say they're gonna sheep a townie, never really call anyone out townie to sheep, and then spend 48 or so hours posting that some guy is mafia because, when asked if he was mafia, he said no, are....not uber townie. You can find them town, but probably not uber duber townie.

The reason I move on rean is his play since. No reads at all into just me scum always me scum always always i'm scum. If he's mafia, he's not fixing his lack of reads. If he's mafia, he might want a reason to vote me. He burns KP on me last night that they probably want to use on someone who's impacting the game. All things that make him less likely mafia.

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