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On December 07 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
supersoft i have no idea how your case is even a case. You bolded some words MZ wrote, you don't even say why they are scummy. The third quote does not even tell he is scum, it tells the opposite.
rereading LSB now.
Yes this wouldn't be a case if it would have been about one of these here:
jcarlsoniv
jaybrundage
justanothertownie
Jonnylaw
Oatsmaster
ticklishmusic
Coagulation
Roffles
Risen
Onegu
Rean
but since my case was about MZ, who doesn't play completely random. It actually was a case.
You can tell if MZ is scum or not. I believe the stuff I pointed out were little slips in his play.
Of course I also had my doubts. It's not only black and white.
I gauge the situation by considerin the pros and cons. That's analysis.
I don't want to write up a piece of propaganda to get you to do something. I want to discuss my reads and I don't hide any evidence that might disprove my conviction.
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On December 07 2013 20:57 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
supersoft i have no idea how your case is even a case. You bolded some words MZ wrote, you don't even say why they are scummy. The third quote does not even tell he is scum, it tells the opposite.
rereading LSB now. Yes this wouldn't be a case if it would have been about one of these here: jcarlsoniv jaybrundage justanothertownie Jonnylaw Oatsmaster ticklishmusic Coagulation Roffles Risen Onegu Rean but since my case was about MZ, who doesn't play completely random. It actually was a case. You can tell if MZ is scum or not. I believe the stuff I pointed out were little slips in his play. Of course I also had my doubts. It's not only black and white. I gauge the situation by considerin the pros and cons. That's analysis. I don't want to write up a piece of propaganda to get you to do something. I want to discuss my reads and I don't hide any evidence that might disprove my conviction.
On December 07 2013 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta Prome's case on JL ended up in scum or noob. As did yours. Your case was nowhere near convincing because you end it up with "but i am not sure, he could be town too". I don't read cases like that because if you look like you don't even believe in your own case how could others believe you?
And this statement of yours is complete Bullshit.
Why shouldn someone have doubts in his cases?! From my point of view that makes them even more convincing because I see that the player did analyze the other player and not condemn him.
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So can you explain what in your case makes MZ scum? I don't see it because you actually just quoted some of his posts and bolded some sentences? I don't know how you think that makes him scum.
And no supersoft. If you are giving outs in your cases you can't get scum lynched. If you say "but it also could be this" what are you going to do when the accusee comes and says "yeah it's that"? You debunk your own case before you even got a response because you are already giving the right answers to the person you are accusing.
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On December 07 2013 20:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi i got a question to you; Was Odin, your top scumread scum? What? Was he?
Wasnt top scumread. Was possible scum. Case Onegu pretty good. Onegu town.
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Yeah i agree Onegu is most likely town.
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Koshi could you comment on my scumreads please?
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I kinda think we should lynch Koshi. Like really.
He has no real reads, he liked Onegu's case on Odin and now he is saying Odin was not his top scumread. However other scumreads he had were Risen and MZ. He halfly retracted his scumread on Risen here:
Feels like a good vote, austin looks cool. Risen not really but ok.
Then he votes for MZ. But MZ wasn't even scummy?
On December 07 2013 10:01 Koshi wrote:
My vote on you MZ is because I believe both geript and Mocsta are town. They were a constant presence in this thread and they were giving opinions and putting them out there. Mocsta maybe a bit less than geript.
Anyway, they aren't scum.
rayn isn't scum
marv isn't scum.
Mig is being sincere I think and not scum.
supersoft is a bit harder but meh, null read that looks pretty willing to move thread forward constantly.
So I am just landed with you and VE on vets. And be it that you and VE are ignoring each other hardcore. Except VE saying that you attacking me was totally justified. (at least I think it was VE, but doesn't matter)
So yeah. I don't have strong strong feelings towards MZ lynch. But I think it is probably a good one.
Also, I am lacking any other decent read.
Also, you attacked me.
What can I say.
Life is life.
Also the second bolded line. He lacs a good scumread but he thought Onegu's case was "very good".
I think we should lynch Koshi on D3, he is scum.
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In addition to that he is now shitting on me because austin was town. Before deadline he was willing to sheep me on austin.
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Rayn scum if I die tonight. Setting up my kill nicely.
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Well probably still not scum but silly none the less.
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So if you are town why don't you play the game?
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On December 07 2013 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So can you explain what in your case makes MZ scum? I don't see it because you actually just quoted some of his posts and bolded some sentences? I don't know how you think that makes him scum.
And no supersoft. If you are giving outs in your cases you can't get scum lynched. If you say "but it also could be this" what are you going to do when the accusee comes and says "yeah it's that"? You debunk your own case before you even got a response because you are already giving the right answers to the person you are accusing.
you didnt read my case on him did you?
I quoted MY posts where I bolded the things that I think make MZ scum.
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@koshi yeah i agree rayn could be scum. has there been rayn spam?
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has anyone made a case on rayn?
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guise
please stop bickering.
1. rayn, if koshi is scum -- hes still got to make pro town stuff like that police radio.
let's not convince town to blast kp abilities his way. it is night after all.
2. koshi, I think rayn is town. antagonising hhim about the mislynch is not going to improve our situation. we need strong players like rayn still involved in the game. hes already said hes demotivaterd. this isn't helping.
as for scum.
jl for his opportunistic vote on riffles yesterday that came out of left field.
mz is still scum if koshi is town based on those early game interactions. I still think he should have been lynched.
LSB is scum. hides behind that ability tracker list and isn't even updating it correctly.
seriously, what type of townie call for a policy lynch on someone not shitting up the thread.
coag has said nothing all game but has posted elsewhere. hes scum and its not his bday anymore.
I'm starting to consider jay. the lurking and DAT vote on Austin..especially when mz was close to lynch
I also don't like kush anymore. yesterday was not the day for big play votes. I admit this could be OMGUs so hes the lowest on my shit list.
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On December 07 2013 22:58 kushm4sta wrote:
@koshi yeah i agree rayn could be scum. has there been rayn spam?
^^^
not the lowest on my shitlist anymore.
look at kush, any chance he gets to reverse a read.
call me scum for my position in Austin but then look how long it took you to jump ships off him.
if I'm scum to you, why did you follow my vote onto mz???
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hi mocsta! little scum cutie pie I want pinch your scummy cheeks.
I called you scum because of your shitlogic case on austin. OK I change my mind about my scumreads alot.
Why does this make me scummy? Since when is it a crime against town to change your mind.
On December 07 2013 23:11 Mocsta wrote:if I'm scum to you, why did you follow my vote onto mz???
Why did I vote MZ? I said why and I can say it again if you want.
I think the question you are trying to ask is why did you vote for mz if you are scum? Well either because MZ is town or you felt threatened by my realization that you were using shitlogic, so you felt the need for a bus. One which your team easily foiled anyway.
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On December 07 2013 23:21 kushm4sta wrote:hi mocsta! little scum cutie pie I want pinch your scummy cheeks. I called you scum because of your shitlogic case on austin. OK I change my mind about my scumreads alot. Why does this make me scummy? Since when is it a crime against town to change your mind. You have made massive 180's with zero justification in between.
This isn't natural with strong town reads -- which is the language you yourself used to describe people like myself and rayn previously.Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 23:11 Mocsta wrote:if I'm scum to you, why did you follow my vote onto mz??? Why did I vote MZ? I said why and I can say it again if you want. I think the question you are trying to ask is why did you vote for mz if you are scum? Well either because MZ is town or you felt threatened by my realization that you were using shitlogic, so you felt the need for a bus. One which your team easily foiled anyway. Kush, if i *was* scum you would be the least of my concerns. Your point is debunked.
And i would like a rehash of why you voted MZ.
Afterall, you think I was scum for what I said about Austin -- who when dialoguing with me never insinuated/called me scum.. You even admit prior to this that you think Austin is town.
So why did you keep your vote on Austin for such a prolonged period (even when you thought he was town) and then follow by voting your scumreads scum read (i.e. copy my vote on MZ)
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rayn let's be friends for 1 more night. Don't forget there is an item from me around that should "confirm" 3 people town / scum.
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EPT
