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I still think Yorick is being massively overvalued. It's definitely not pro-town at all, yet like Talon, it really is a weak role. If delaying the reveal of a dead players by a day is going to impact our decision making that much, we need to get better at mafia. It's annoying, but assisted KP is inherently much more powerful.
And saying a role will be scum tell is atrocious reasoning for not banning it. Ashe and Caitlyn are the only real rolechecks, and they are both not reliable.
I can imagine a scum team of Urgot, Tryndamere, Twitch, Heimer, Janna+ whatever utility or extra KP scum wants forcing LYLO in a few days. That Talon, a role that is not pro-active at all for mafia, and Caitlyn, a Rolechecker, have any votes at all is alarming. If Yorick is really that threatening for your ability to find scum, then I won't hold it against you, but please make the other two bans Urgot and Graves. Looking at Nocturne again, I don't think his ability is as powerul. I'd prefer another ban.
##Ban: Graves
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On November 30 2013 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Vote: Graves
good
##Unvote ##Vote: Urgot
I know you went afk Mocsta, but if you do come back, please unvote caitlyn and vote LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE ;_;
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On November 30 2013 21:19 marvellosity wrote: rayn don't be ridiculous.
You can't come in here with nice ideas about some sort of picking order and arranging players and then bitch out of doing anything sensible because Oats is annoying you. Go have a smoke or something. First off, I don't think that rayn is being ridiculous. Second off, Oats is scum.
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On November 30 2013 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Desert mini mafia. No i think they are scummy until they start doi8ng osmething that actually matters. There has been a ton of discussion about people's alignments and they have not taken any part in it. A ton meaning like less than the setup discussion? How do you expect to catch scum in this first phase if you think like this???
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hi guys
cant wait till sunday to be on a computer.
till then ill cast my votes and help
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These are the only ones worth considering ban imo. Tryndamere should be considered very pro-scum. Annie - Incinerate - Vigilante -- Possibly worth blocking since it's extra KP every day.
Cho'Gath - Feral Scream - Worth banning. Deals damage AND checks HP. Very pro-scum.
Evelynn - Ravage - Anonymous Vig -- Worth considering blocking
Fiddlesticks - Drain - Consistent KP and healing -- Worth considering.
Heimerdinger - H28-G Evolution Turret - KP you don't control. Good for scum or town.
Karthus - Requiem - Triple KP -- Worth considering banning.
Shaco - Jack in the Box - Defensive power and KP-- Worth banning to prevent scum from getting it.
Tryndamere - Spinning Slash - Very pro scum. KP to a broad range of people.
Twitch - Deadly Venom/Expunge - Firebomber--Very pro-scum/3p.
Viktor - Evolving Technology - Inventor--Goes 80 different ways.
Yorick - Omen of Death - Janitor. MUST BAN.
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So.. Which number can I send in. I was going to do [2,1]. Because [1,1] was for rayn because he is rayn. But now I see rayn already gave [2,1] to somebody else D:
I want [2,1]
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On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm. Posts like this make rayn deserve all the shit he's so tired of getting. Worthy of my ire, worthy of my ignore button, but not worthy of a lynch. <3
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On December 01 2013 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm. Posts like this make rayn deserve all the shit he's so tired of getting. Worthy of my ire, worthy of my ignore button, but not worthy of a lynch. <3
Do you disagree with him regarding Marv?
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On November 30 2013 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i don't wanna play in a game where people say making bad posts is a town-tell for anyone and where people say i can't have a scumread on someone based on that they are incapable of posting 10 times / phase as scum.
I honestly don't give a fuck if you lynch me. I couldn't care less because lately TL town have been absolutely crap. Me + Risen should get top 2 spots and then we just shoot stupidity. That's the best plan. Oh look more rayn being a pompous jerkoff. *yawn*
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On December 01 2013 01:59 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm. Posts like this make rayn deserve all the shit he's so tired of getting. Worthy of my ire, worthy of my ignore button, but not worthy of a lynch. <3 Do you disagree with him regarding Marv? Vehemently. He also is reading /me/ as scum so obviously I'm taking all of rayns "reads" with a grain of salt.
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that is such a VE-move btw. He's rereading and randomly commentating stuff before he has read the whole thing...
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I'm catching up and keeping up simultaneously - it's a weakness.
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On December 01 2013 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 01:59 supersoft wrote:On December 01 2013 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm. Posts like this make rayn deserve all the shit he's so tired of getting. Worthy of my ire, worthy of my ignore button, but not worthy of a lynch. <3 Do you disagree with him regarding Marv? Vehemently. He also is reading /me/ as scum so obviously I'm taking all of rayns "reads" with a grain of salt.
let me rephrase this question: Do you think marvs contribution so far is alignment indicative?
btw. how does rayns read affect your reads on a player... nvm. i don't go down this road -_-
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On December 01 2013 02:04 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm catching up and keeping up simultaneously - it's a weakness.
I know. I just realized this. You do that often. I don't know if it's alignment indicative. I can see your thoughprocess more clearly and that's a good thing.
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