PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 228

On December 07 2013 11:00 Koshi wrote:
rayn want me to sheep you? My own mind says MZ, but I can sheep if you really know mz is town and austin scum.

On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum.


Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking)

He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi.

I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons.

A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum.

B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies.

C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE

D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting

E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him.

That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm.

On December 07 2013 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:

Great. Do you like that better rayn?

On December 07 2013 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no, i hate that.

On December 04 2013 10:10 austinmcc wrote:


I had MZ picked out as scummy from the way he was going after LSB. Going to reread MZ and a couple other folks, and will look at Jay now that he's come up, but I don't want to lynch any leading candidate.

On December 04 2013 10:23 austinmcc wrote:
VE, does MZ usually post a decent bit about you/your alignment?

On December 04 2013 11:27 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, that's fine. I really hated that he went through post after post after post to argue about your alignment, how many games you've played together, all these things you do as town and why you're town, then also dropped: Post was just out of place. All these other VE posts about how he's the magical VE-whisperer, and then a post count analysis on D1 ish in a game with a long pregame and just completely ignoring other games. I dunno, this post smelled.

MZ's interactions with LSB felt very...fluffy. MZ doesn't like his claim but thinks he's telling the truth but might be hiding in plain sight and hasn't posted enough to draw conclusions about behavior.

Then half or the majority of his posts from yesterday are just him sniping at LSB. + Show Spoiler +

However:
(1) It doesn't feel like he's pushing his LSB scumread in the same way he pushed his townVE read, or even his very early bit on gtrsrs. He's directly engaging LSB, but rarely, if ever, is asking other people about LSB, trying to get their votes, etc. It's just...poking at a dude who is doing scummy stuff, over and over.

(2) I can understand finding "blue hunting" scummy. But in PYP games, THIS HAPPENS. People get caught based on picks, roles, power usages, it's...it's part of a PYP game. It's not odd for someone to hunt, and it's not TERRIBLE to hunt because it DOES catch a mafia or two in a lot of/most PYP/PTP games. I don't like MZ using the phrase "blue hunting" without ever seeming to discuss or consider that this is a different beast than a normal game, and blue hunting may not be the most scummiest thing ever.



It's not the most blatant scummy stuff ever, but his were some posts that just didn't feel like they were DOING anything to me. Looking closer, apart from the gtrsrs stuff very early, just trying to build discussion, his filter is pewp imo. And the very fact that he'd try to start discussion early and then just...fade away into poking at LBS doesn't sit well with me. Having a couple townie posts early on into nothing always seems like what scumvets do.

On December 07 2013 11:03 justanothertownie wrote:

Austin had MZ as scum really early in the game and before the whole Koshi thing.

On December 07 2013 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So because austin had MZ as scumread it gives him a free pass to harp on MZ about Koshi? To be honest MZ was being totally reasonable about Koshi, Koshi has been so fucking incredibly bad this game i don't even know what to think of him. Maybe we should lynch him on D3.

It's not the most blatant scummy stuff ever, but his were some posts that just didn't feel like they were DOING anything to me. Looking closer, apart from the gtrsrs stuff very early, just trying to build discussion, his filter is pewp imo. And the very fact that he'd try to start discussion early and then just...fade away into poking at LBS doesn't sit well with me. Having a couple townie posts early on into nothing always seems like what scumvets do.

On December 07 2013 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point is it's not even a scumread to be taken seriously because austin himself says that does not necessarily make MZ scum..

On December 07 2013 11:07 Koshi wrote:
MZ lynch then. It just.feels right.

On December 07 2013 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And for the record MZ explained his LSB stuff and it felt very genuine. Him pushing LSB and when people were not listening looking into other places.

On December 07 2013 11:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

See its shit like this that pisses me off the most right now. Like really? This is the best you can do?

On December 07 2013 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what am i even doing. It's not my job to defend MZ.
Vote whoever you think is scum. I'm going to bed. You know what i think.