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Koshi regarding your reads.
This is my reads update post-flip.
On December 16 2013 10:24 Mocsta wrote: My unlynchables: JAT, Koshi, rayn, SS
2-3 scum in this group: oats, jcarl, sandroba, Kush, JayB
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On December 16 2013 21:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:Well that was a lame flip Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:32 Koshi wrote:Kush, as promised. + Show Spoiler +On December 10 2013 07:16 kushm4sta wrote: COAG IS NOT MAFIA.
Think about his story. It is impossible to make up a lie like that as quickly as he did.
On December 10 2013 07:27 kushm4sta wrote: lynch coag and prove my amazing townread ability, which frankly is more important to me than winning this game
##vote coag ^lynching town ftw something something blind squirrels and nuts That went over my head.
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On December 16 2013 21:56 Koshi wrote:Teemo shrooms do 100 damage each turn. Are we something with that information? I remember Risen/rayn getting 100 each on N2. Nothing more. Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:41 Mocsta wrote:Koshi regarding your reads. This is my reads update post-flip. On December 16 2013 10:24 Mocsta wrote: My unlynchables: JAT, Koshi, rayn, SS
2-3 scum in this group: oats, jcarl, sandroba, Kush, JayB If you had to pick 3. Which ones? We kinda can use some reasoning. JayB - has stepped up his activity nearer mylo; but is rehashing bad arguments to lynch people and is jumping too quickly which indicates lack of conviction --> scum survival mode Kush - has done nothing all game except call me scum, yet doesnt vote me until his buddy jayb lays a vote. I disagree with that read of him, especially due to that list reads you quoted. Town reads are easy to throw out, and kush hasnt done anything more than that. For the third, im least certain on Sandroba. I dislike how he tried to throw shit on me the night before and when it didnt stick - backtracked. For now, im willing to believe this was due to his low activity in the game and he was speaking in haste. Between Jcarl/Oats. Oats is pretty unmemorable this game which isnt a good sign. On the other hand, he opposed the MZ lynch pretty vehemently at a time when MZ was clearly getting lynched. Scum have *Zero* incentive to put themselves under this type of pressure. Oats hasnt had much activity in his other game either, so Im inclined to consider him the town between him and jcarl.
Jcarl's lantern play sounded pretty town in theory, but then.. hes never been shot to prove it either.... I still dont get why he boxed when VE checked him.. mainly because, if VE rejected his lantern its pretty clear VE was suspicious of him and could have parity checked him. This along with the Oats PoE is enough to make me stick with a {JayB, Kush, JCarl} team.
I am not fussed between JayB/Kush who goes first.
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LOl. screaming scum is not the same as making it happen.
Any scum can scream "XYZ" is scum.
But yes, Im more than willing to hear you out on the remainder of your team. Surely it cant be "mocsta" + "mocsta" + "mocsta"
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On December 16 2013 22:32 kushm4sta wrote: maybe its koshi? never seen him play scum Koshi is pretty sneaky.. but.. the way MZ went after him I think was real; and the way Koshi went after MZ was definitely real.
Koshi is pretty much my strongest read along with JAT.
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On December 16 2013 22:33 kushm4sta wrote: Is there a lol bitch who can make copies of himself?? Cause that is probably who mocsta picked.
mocsta+mocsta+mocsta scumteam. game solved. that actually made me laugh tush.
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Koshi, can I please be a hero to have some semblance of enjoyment htis game hahah
*just kids*
do what you want :0
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On December 16 2013 23:24 kushm4sta wrote: are we seriously not killing mocsta next?? Koshi... and this is guy is because?
Man, i dealt with enough of this crap in BttB. Lemme guess, next Kush is going to say I was bussing JL; even though my reasoning and mindset was similar to that of Prome before he even joined the game.. yeah next level scum play there...
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On December 16 2013 23:39 kushm4sta wrote: you weren't really busing JL. I never actually remember you pushing him (maybe in like 1 post in the beginning of the game lol). All I remember is you trying to get credit for the push, like right now. pfft. half my filter is pushing JL everytime he posted. Ppl like rayn shut me down instantly.
I never gloated when JL was lynched, so piss off with claiming town cred. Its called a reminder of good play.
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On December 16 2013 23:58 kushm4sta wrote:Mocsta, I present to you the sum total of your case on JL before prome: Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 10:35 Mocsta wrote: I can get behind JohnnyLaw
Definitely didnt like the way he talked about me. Felt like he was trying to +1 onto bullshit.
##Vote: JohnnyLaw This took you 15minutes...
This took me 2minutes.
On December 04 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote: jonnylaw First off, I think he "stole" my hero - so I might be prejudiced.
Reading his filter I'm at loggerheads.
- I cant follow his reads mid Day1 - they read like checklists and with some of the reads I dont even know if the lean is town or null. - I find him to be a lot more direct/assertive during the pick phase. Coupled with the point above I find pretty scummy. - Has a read on OWB/Kush.. that is weird. On one hand he is making some effort in his filter to push it, and on the other hand I don't feel he is making an effort to strengthen his read by talking to Kush. - I do like how he plays early Day 1 with Geript/Jay. It felt like he was stopping that feud and then tried to generate discussion with the right level of assertiveness. - I also misread him earlier when I said he +1'd me. That was prob OMGUS of me. Having said that, I dont see why it is relevant to call me out for making excuses. Doesn't take it anywhere either.
Overall I think he has good potential to be scum. I really want to see him push his prime read (Kush) more. + I'm not sure if knowing he is a newbie is affecting my read.
On December 04 2013 14:23 Mocsta wrote: jonny + Kush
Jonny is interesting. His reason for thinking bum is town, was cos bum called him town. I think this is pretty weak. Further, I havent seen him try to develop his read on Kush (which was meant to be his prime target).
I still think there is potential here, thoughts?
On December 05 2013 11:59 Mocsta wrote: (3) jonnylaw is looking the goods for D2. He *STILL* isn't pushing his main read. I get hes come in and had to defend himself, but normally town brush that stuff off and then get back into scum hunting. Please lynch
On December 05 2013 12:48 Mocsta wrote: (3) Please join me onto jonnylaw He was one of Promes (confirmed town) best reads ; and his read was congruent with my own thoughts.
Lets do this !!
On December 05 2013 13:48 Mocsta wrote: Two. Why is no one joining me on jonny???
And theres more....
Nice filter diving Kush. We can definitely rely on your abilities to pull through a successful (mis)lynch.
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Lol Kush.. its Day1.. thast about as strong as it gets.
Keep trying, its making me chuckle.
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And your argument of a "bus" is stopped completely in its tracks considering JOnnys role which was *awesome* for scum. #1 stealth hits + #2 50% HP dmg which then becomes a shield
I don't bus voluntarily, full-stop. #1 look how pissed I was when I got bussed by you in our newbie game..... #2 look how pissed I was when i got bussed by Grack in LXIII
/night
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On December 17 2013 20:12 kushm4sta wrote: mocsta very active elsewhere on the forum. big case against him here ignores us cause he knows he lost already lol. this is stupid
There is a complete different level of commitment required to respond to a behaviour thread than an ongoing game.
If you notice, i was only active there for a 30min period of time.
I read Sandroba case and its weak beanz. Will respond to it later when I have time.
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On December 17 2013 22:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 18:35 supersoft wrote:On December 17 2013 17:14 Koshi wrote: I am going to take it soniv and some townie did big plays? I would say confirm it and stop doing lantarn play rofl.
I got 200 damage. maybe ^_^ I took the lantern lol hence "does the wolf cackle at midnight?" =P I don't think there's any other protection role than me now (correct if I'm wrong pls). I'm really surprised neither Koshi or myself are dead (maybe cuz Koshi's inventions haven't actually done anything yet lol) - my conclusion is that either the scum team is retarded or we're getting played somehow. Or option 3....one or more of you aint town....
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On December 17 2013 22:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 22:23 Mocsta wrote:On December 17 2013 22:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 17 2013 18:35 supersoft wrote:On December 17 2013 17:14 Koshi wrote: I am going to take it soniv and some townie did big plays? I would say confirm it and stop doing lantarn play rofl.
I got 200 damage. maybe ^_^ I took the lantern lol hence "does the wolf cackle at midnight?" =P I don't think there's any other protection role than me now (correct if I'm wrong pls). I'm really surprised neither Koshi or myself are dead (maybe cuz Koshi's inventions haven't actually done anything yet lol) - my conclusion is that either the scum team is retarded or we're getting played somehow. Or option 3....one or more of you aint town.... Give us all the scumreads. On December 16 2013 22:13 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:56 Koshi wrote:Teemo shrooms do 100 damage each turn. Are we something with that information? I remember Risen/rayn getting 100 each on N2. Nothing more. On December 16 2013 21:41 Mocsta wrote:Koshi regarding your reads. This is my reads update post-flip. On December 16 2013 10:24 Mocsta wrote: My unlynchables: JAT, Koshi, rayn, SS
2-3 scum in this group: oats, jcarl, sandroba, Kush, JayB If you had to pick 3. Which ones? We kinda can use some reasoning. JayB - has stepped up his activity nearer mylo; but is rehashing bad arguments to lynch people and is jumping too quickly which indicates lack of conviction --> scum survival mode Kush - has done nothing all game except call me scum, yet doesnt vote me until his buddy jayb lays a vote. I disagree with that read of him, especially due to that list reads you quoted. Town reads are easy to throw out, and kush hasnt done anything more than that. For the third, im least certain on Sandroba. I dislike how he tried to throw shit on me the night before and when it didnt stick - backtracked. For now, im willing to believe this was due to his low activity in the game and he was speaking in haste. Between Jcarl/Oats. Oats is pretty unmemorable this game which isnt a good sign. On the other hand, he opposed the MZ lynch pretty vehemently at a time when MZ was clearly getting lynched. Scum have *Zero* incentive to put themselves under this type of pressure. Oats hasnt had much activity in his other game either, so Im inclined to consider him the town between him and jcarl. Jcarl's lantern play sounded pretty town in theory, but then.. hes never been shot to prove it either.... I still dont get why he boxed when VE checked him.. mainly because, if VE rejected his lantern its pretty clear VE was suspicious of him and could have parity checked him. This along with the Oats PoE is enough to make me stick with a {JayB, Kush, JCarl} team. I am not fussed between JayB/Kush who goes first.
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Thats dated 24hrs ago, and I havent seen anything to change that.
Sandroba case is pretty confirmation biased//bad//miscontrued but I have to believe he is town or this game is really fucked up.
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On December 17 2013 22:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 22:39 jcarlsoniv wrote: Seems a little odd that scum would deal 900 to Rayn and 200 to Koshi. Why not just kill rayn? Although I suppose it's possible they thought 900 would kill rayn? I think they did. Rayn took some dmg here and there and 900 is still a good amount of HP. I concur. I had a town read on Koshi anyways, so its not odd hes taken dmg.
From what I have seen: a few of us have been hit for lowish dmg quantities.
I suspect scum are hedging their bets by lowering the pool of hp down in general.
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On December 17 2013 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really do think Mocsta is scum. Nothing new Rayn. When do you ever think I am town. I'm fucking over this.
I'm going to address the Sandroba case now, and then you can all get screwed.
I was constantly pushing the JL lynch, and no1 ever agreed. A confirmed town pulls out a similar mindset case to me, and I'm still magically scum even though I had the same way of thinking.
Rayn, actually had thread presence back then, and I believe the way you shut me down was "I can understand his thought process". I tried to reason my read out with you, and you wouldnt have anything to do with it.
GTFO, you have zero clue how to read me. I have had limited time this entire fucking game, and still have a 22page filter when I missed the first 48hrs. I have even less time this week leading into the xmas break and i just dont give a shit anymore.
Feel free to make this my first mislynch. DW, im in the behaviour thread so wont modkill myself.
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On December 17 2013 23:00 justanothertownie wrote: This rage is uncalled for and I don't really know if I am buying it. Don't buy it then. I'm sick to death of this shit.
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On December 17 2013 23:01 Koshi wrote: Mocsta, take it from a town read of yours.
That Sandroba case is really really good. +JAT comment on you early game. + Mig on your ass = Mocsta pretty scummy. I'm about to address the case,
JATs comment.. did you read my response? None of what he wrote about disagreeing with me was alignment indicative. I have my own thoughts on how I think town should play and that is irregardless of alignment.
Mig on my ass.. .. seriously.. he was pushing me because he thought I was lying about HP... its not even alignment indicative. As I said before, I have no reason to lie about being a caster. Further, even Rayn thinks the 25kp on him was scum mind games.
So no, aside from the sandroba case which I have yet to address; there is nothing on me that remotely makes me scummy.
Hence why Im just over this. I am going to address the case now, and then do soemthign else more productive with my time.
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