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On December 13 2013 20:20 Koshi wrote: I just saw that there is a 6th member on the scumteam because JL was the coach. omg. still 2 peepz.
I think there might be 7 scum, cuz M_Z was MonteCristo (who is a caster who has a super hard on for SKT), which means we have a bit more work to do.
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On December 14 2013 00:08 Koshi wrote: Wait JayB should also die soonish.
For tomorrow I shall make a triple death ray.
Yeah, JayB is my first preference
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On December 14 2013 00:21 Koshi wrote: Yeah, we should do Risen his plan if we are going to kill JayB.
hold on, need to filter dive - I have something in mind I'm looking for
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Sorry, was filter diving, couldn't find the post I was thinking of.
Yes, risen has the lantern. But I posted 2 pages before night post saying not to fucking claim I thread if you have lantern, so I'm all for lynching Risen tomorrow.
Shoot the fuck out of JayB
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I'll respond to the last few questions/posts to me in a few minutes - need to do something for work real quick.
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On December 14 2013 01:19 Mig wrote: Why does jcarl keep disappearing right now. I hate him so much.
Cuz I have a work deadline to hit. Have your tits smoke a bowl, you'll hear from me shortly =)
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On December 14 2013 01:02 Mig wrote: Jcarl why the fuck did you given Risen the lantern. Out of all the townie people you couldnt give it to me? Or Sand? Or rayn had to fucking give it to risen.
I took input from people, and made my own decision.
On December 14 2013 01:05 Risen wrote: Hey, hey, guys... tell me if this works. I link jayb, I use lantern, everyone shoots jcarl. Dmg chain kills all three of us. Is that a thing?
I'm moderately ok with this plan. I see you've just posted saying that you've confirmed a link with JayB. People with KP, be aware - if Risen is scum, it is just as easy for him to claim that he took the lantern, but leave it for me to take a bunch of damage without JayB or Risen actually taking any.
If Risen and JayB are now linked, I wonder how the damage transfers through the link even if Risen took the lantern (as in, would shooting JayB still hurt Risen if he took my lantern?) I don't know if that's information that can be found out through asking. Since the damage wouldn't be technically targeting Risen, I feel like the damage would go through to him, regardless of his position.
On December 14 2013 01:04 Risen wrote: Jcarl town was planning on shooting me. I had to tell them I had the lantern or you would have come in and said "Risen has the lantern don't shoot him." And then that leaves me looking scum as fuck because I'm directing town kp at me and haven't said anything about this lantern I have.
How scum is jcarl right now 1-10?
As far as I can tell, you suggested that the town shoot you, and THEN you claimed to have the lantern.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 14 2013 00:18 Risen wrote: No shoot me, I'll link with jayb and then we can lynch someone else tomorrow. I have a little over 400 hp left On December 14 2013 00:24 Risen wrote: Oh, what does the lantern do again? I can't be bothered to look through everything when I'm about to die
On December 14 2013 01:36 Mig wrote: You are such a troll Risen. If you are town again I am going to be annoyed. If you are mafia tho I find it amusing.
Jcarl we need to see exactly what your lantern supposedly does.
I throw lantern. If they click it, they get pulled to my location. Anything targeting them (their location) will not hit, but anything targeting me (my location) will affect both of us.
Clicking lantern cannot be roleblocked unless it's instant role block. Deadline roleblocks will not prevent clicking. (I just confirmed this)
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I think I hit all the posts I wanted to. If I missed something, let me know.
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On December 14 2013 01:48 Mig wrote: jcarl, Risen's plan is obviously horrible and we cant do it...... If he is mafia he just doesn't use the lantern we shoot you you die and he doesnt.
right - I'm ok with the plan if it actually went the way he says, but you're right, which is why I voiced my concern/alternative idea
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On December 14 2013 01:54 Mig wrote: Anyway I know it doesnt matter now but jcarl your choice to given Risen the lantern is just so unbelievably bad. UGH! I can barely put it into words how bad it was.
Like if Risen is mafia they just dont click the lantern and then shoot you and you couldn't really think Risen was the most townie person to give it to you could you??? Now we cant shoot Risen tonight even though we almost certainly caught him in a lie. What a freaking nightmare.
You'll get over it.
If I throw to someone I think is town, they don't want to click it because it is in the open to mafia that they can just shoot me if one of their members didn't get it and hit either 1 or 2 town (depending on if town player clicked).
I was more interested in what would happen if I threw it to someone I thought might be scum. And even though I said not to claim you have the lantern, Risen goes and says "HEY GUYS SHOOT ME" and then 6 minutes later "I HAVE LANTERN".
So, say what you want, but I'm sure I could have made a much less optimal choice.
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On December 14 2013 01:59 Mig wrote: No you literally couldn't have made a worse choice!
Scum just dont activate the lantern and then shoot you if they want lol. How does giving the lantern to scum do anything.
Look, I had to make a decision at the end of day. I was not aware that, going into night time, people were gonna be wanting to be shooting Risen. Even less, I didn't expect Risen to offer to be shot and THEN claim he has lantern.
Again, say what you want, but I'm comfortable with what I did. I was in a less than optimal situation with my role, and decided to see what happened.
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On December 14 2013 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mainly becaues i think MZ used his ulti on N2(?). Scum were probably afraid of Koshi's invention (police radio was talked about) and suddenly jcarl makes himself untargetable rofl. "because he thought he would die". yeah right.
I made myself untargetable to protect VE if he chose to take my lantern so that he would get through the night with his check. Unfortunately, VE and I had been accidentally working against each other the entire time he was alive.
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On December 14 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: My taunt counts as a visit. supersoft claimed to throw a card on MZ, but only after i said i taunted him. Before that he said "i did something but nothing happened".
HP is the ONLY notification you will be receiving unless otherwise specified; players are not informed if their abilities landed, if they are roleblocked, healed/shielded/hit with KP/etc. You will be informed if an ability is refunded to you for whatever reason.
So I don't think ss would have known that you taunted him at all until you said something.
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On December 14 2013 02:46 Mig wrote: It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power.
Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths Heals Signup list switches/checks
Taunt (redirect) SS Card (roleblock) Damage
logic checks out
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On December 14 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 02:46 Mig wrote: It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power. It kinda makes sense but then it doesn't.  Like both of our powers block each others power but they both still go through..
Gotta look at hierarchy. You change his target to you. He throws card at you. Card roleblocks you, so you don't negate damage. Full damage goes through.
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On December 14 2013 03:05 Koshi wrote: We only need to kill 2 more scummers. I think it is more likely it is Risen + jayB?
On December 13 2013 22:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 20:20 Koshi wrote: I just saw that there is a 6th member on the scumteam because JL was the coach. omg. still 2 peepz. I think there might be 7 scum, cuz M_Z was MonteCristo (who is a caster who has a super hard on for SKT), which means we have a bit more work to do.
If my conjecture is true, we have 3 more to kill.
On December 14 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote: Also, if jayB and Risen are linked. Can't we just kill jayB? Or is he protected by Risen as well?
If they're linked, JayB shouldn't also be protected. But that's also assuming Risen actually linked them.
Rayn - when you were masoned, did it go through immediately? Or were you masoned when Day post hit?
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So then this entire plan of shooting me tonight to get risen and JayB wouldn't work anyway. I'm really excited to make Risen hang tomorrow, at the very least.
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On December 14 2013 06:16 kushm4sta wrote: And obviously if you let me stay, the room A alliance is going to be fucked. Believe me when I say I will put the eviction of ALL room A members, including rean, who sat idly by and did nothing while my room plotted against me, ahead of my own victory. And that is a good thing for everyone not in room a. ##evict onegu
LOL
Risen - all I've read from you during this phase is "everything I've said since night post has been a huge lie through my teeth trying to get people to go with my plan"
I don't understand what you're trying to achieve.
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On December 14 2013 06:28 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 06:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2013 06:16 kushm4sta wrote: And obviously if you let me stay, the room A alliance is going to be fucked. Believe me when I say I will put the eviction of ALL room A members, including rean, who sat idly by and did nothing while my room plotted against me, ahead of my own victory. And that is a good thing for everyone not in room a. ##evict onegu LOL Risen - all I've read from you during this phase is "everything I've said since night post has been a huge lie through my teeth trying to get people to go with my plan" I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. I'm trying to get people to kill you, me, and Dupree
Well, from what I've seen, you really just want everyone to kill me. It would be horribly convenient for the scum team if the town doctor fell to town KP.
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On December 14 2013 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 06:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2013 06:28 Risen wrote:On December 14 2013 06:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2013 06:16 kushm4sta wrote: And obviously if you let me stay, the room A alliance is going to be fucked. Believe me when I say I will put the eviction of ALL room A members, including rean, who sat idly by and did nothing while my room plotted against me, ahead of my own victory. And that is a good thing for everyone not in room a. ##evict onegu LOL Risen - all I've read from you during this phase is "everything I've said since night post has been a huge lie through my teeth trying to get people to go with my plan" I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. I'm trying to get people to kill you, me, and Dupree Well, from what I've seen, you really just want everyone to kill me. It would be horribly convenient for the scum team if the town doctor fell to town KP. Do you understand what you are just saying applies to Risen aswell if he is town. 
Well, sure.
But everything he's said this phase has been a blatant lie, I'd be incredibly surprised if he's town at this point.
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On December 14 2013 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: No he actually was talking about other people when he talked about his "actions". I figured out that much.
idk if I'm following
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