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On December 12 2013 02:06 jaybrundage wrote:
Lol trying to kill me eh Soniv. Sneaky Sneaky. On the bright side you did help me avoid lux's laser :D
Reading up on the QT with Risen. I actually think we should leave him for now and let scum kill him off as he is low and he does have a shield that we can use to save town.
Going forward we should direct Risen where to use his shield and we can waste scum KP on it by shielding high priority targets so that they have to ignore the target all together waste a roleblock on Risen. Or simply shooting Risen for us.
I find it odd that Risen was so against shielding SS or anyone else for that matter But him and Rayn and that he forgot to do it :/
If Risen doesn't die then we can just kill him off with KP later on if he remains suspicious after we have killed more scummy people.
So for lynch lets go between Gtrsrs, Roffles Onegue, and maybe Kush,
I don't get this.
If we think Risen is scum, then we need to lynch him. We don't have the luxury of just waiting him out to see if scum kills him. Your plan is to direct one of our few town powers left so that it's easy for scum to shoot him? Actually, your plan is to literally "let scum kill him off"
Now, I haven't decided if I think Risen is scum yet, but quickly skimming the QT, I don't see anything that immediately makes me want to say "yeah we should leave him up so scum can kill him". But I still have trouble with "oops I totally forgot to use the role that me and rayn spent a not insignificant amount of time planning out". What do you see, Jay, that makes you want to leave him up?
Also, you likely won't get a fleshed out case today from me (real time today). I have some stuff I need to get done at work by end of day, so I can't spend a whole ton of time posting.
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Having now fully read the mason QT, it makes me feel that Risen is scum.
He gives some pseudo-reads on a few people he thinks are scum here and there, but the actual hunting is clearly being done by rayn. It seems like a pretty one-sided discussion.
Risen apparently made a "scum slip in thread" early in the masoning, and was concerned about it. I don't know what he said, but his reaction doesn't line up with how I imagine a townie would react.
A significant chunk of the entire conversation is based around the logistics for how roles will play out, so I absolutely refuse to believe Risen just forgot.
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On December 12 2013 03:52 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE got killed last night and flipped town. Ah, that explains that. "slip" was this. Show nested quote +On December 09 2013 04:35 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: It's actually infuriating that someone could be town and be so stupid. So I'm checking out for now. I'll talk to rayn in QT or something. I'm talking like I know the dude is town.
See, I remember reading that post from you, and I just looked back. It doesn't look like anyone jumped on you or even mentioned it at all. Why would you freak out and have a guilty conscience if no one even saw it as a scumslip?
If I'm missing it, please point me in the right direction.
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On December 12 2013 04:02 Risen wrote:
I posted in QT immediately after posting in thread. Knew rayn wouldn't call me on it so I felt comfortable talking about it in QT. I'm serious when I say I want to be on a team, and whether he likes it or not rayn is my bro4lyfe in this game now :D
But why? What town motivation is there to think "oh shit, that looks like a scum slip - better cover all my bases and make rayn know that it isn't a slip!"
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On December 12 2013 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 07:21 Koshi wrote:On December 12 2013 07:17 jaybrundage wrote:On December 12 2013 07:15 Koshi wrote:
rayn has a weakness for mason partners. it has been proven. Are you referring to another game? Or are you talking about this one? Last game he also had his Mason partner as towniest town in the game. While his mason partner was scum and just like in this game rayn called a lot of people scum. I guess I could go all the way back to Sicilian but I was SK there so maybe harder to spot. But anyway. rayn totes town. Risen meh. Can kill. Should kill. I can't help it. Same as here. In LXIII thrawn posted 100x more content in mason QT than anyone in thread. Am i supposed to think he is scum for that, he even made sense.. But i havn't really cared about scumhunting in this game after N!, it's kinda impossible because noone is really doing that.. Or when you try it gets shut down. So i might aswell talk shit with Risen.
You've voiced no opinion on the few things I brought up about Risen that I took from the QT. Do you have an opinion?
You've also made a very poor attempt at showing that you don't care about scumhunting since N1...
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On December 12 2013 07:50 justanothertownie wrote:
##Koshi pls
We should definitely lynch MZ. See how this guy was there to shout at his accusers and peaced out without any other content again.
If you people have the balls we should lynch rayn together with him. If you are to impressed by his aggressive, bully style, his shitlogic and his random lynch targets I can consolidate on jay or some other useless dude.
Btw. I just shot JL let's see what happens.
I had actually forgotten about M_Z somehow. I guess cuz I was never really focused on him. I had a town read on him when he was up for lynch, but I agree that his behavior since them has reeked of scum.
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damn son
nice shot JAT
yay 2 votes
##vote: jaybrundage
##vote: gtrsrs
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On December 12 2013 11:38 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 11:31 Mig wrote:
Mocsta who do you think is the mafia rber? Probably Kush. LOL @ "I didnt pick a hero". We have zero way to know if he is VT either. The other option is, one of the guys who hasnt fully claimed. so onegu, MZ, roffles. Considering onegu/mz claimed their hero, and the power 1 descriptions dont mention RB. Im inclined to assume its Roffles.
He replaced in for OWB at the very last minute D1. It's highly likely that he didn't submit a choice, especially considering the fact that he tried to sub in to avoid having to draft for whatever reason.
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On December 12 2013 11:43 Mig wrote:
jcarl/mocsta what do you think about MZ's claimed second power?
I find it hard to believe it because of the relatively weak power it holds. Most of the 2nd abilities have been ults. Wukong's ult could be some knockup (roleblock) type thing? I don't think there's much worth speculating what it could be, but I agree that it seems too weak to fit in.
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On December 12 2013 12:05 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 12:04 Mig wrote:
Roffles if you are teemo did you use your camouflage n2? Nope. I only plant shrooms.
Oh can I play the "Ask Roffles" game?
Where can I find these mushrooms?
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On December 12 2013 12:11 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 12:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 12 2013 12:05 Roffles wrote:On December 12 2013 12:04 Mig wrote:
Roffles if you are teemo did you use your camouflage n2? Nope. I only plant shrooms. Oh can I play the "Ask Roffles" game? Where can I find these mushrooms? Someone ate my mushrooms.
Eaten? or stepped on?
Any idea when this travesty might have happened?
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On December 12 2013 12:27 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 12:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 12 2013 12:11 Roffles wrote:On December 12 2013 12:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 12 2013 12:05 Roffles wrote:On December 12 2013 12:04 Mig wrote:
Roffles if you are teemo did you use your camouflage n2? Nope. I only plant shrooms. Oh can I play the "Ask Roffles" game? Where can I find these mushrooms? Someone ate my mushrooms. Eaten? or stepped on? Any idea when this travesty might have happened? Stepped on. Nope.
Can you share the scene(s) of the crime(s)?
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On December 12 2013 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:09 Koshi wrote:
rayn, I can't help but feel that you have been defending MZ this entire game. Why exactly? Because i do not think he is scum. And the points brought against him are bad, because there are no real points brought against him. And no Koshi, your case was not good.
But you continually have defended him all game, despite saying you'd stop =/
I had a town read on him when he was up for lynch. This read has degraded heavily since then, but I still haven't seen "omg we need to lynch him now". There are two big things standing out for me against him right now:
-Basically all he's done this game is defend himself. Sure, M_Z, you can say you've been under the gun since D2, but you still haven't really done anything. I've been under fire since D1, and while I haven't done anything exceptional, I've at least been trying.
-The claim of Nimbus Strike as M_Z's 2nd ability seems unlikely. Or at least, you're either hiding something about it, or lying, because it's like, the worst role in the game by FAR if what you claimed is true.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote:Vote count:supersoft (0): VisceraEyes, jaybrundageRean (0): raynpelikoneetJonnyLaw (0): Mocsta, geriptaustinmcc (9): Rean, sandroba, Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, sandroba, Meapak_Zipph, jaybrundage, mkfuba07, Risen, geriptOdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): Chezinukushm4sta (0): LSB, sandrobaticklishmusic (0): ticklishmusicjcarlsoniv (2): Risen, gtrsrs, kushm4sta, ticklishmusicChezinu (0): ticklishmusicMeapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi, kushm4sta, Chezinu, supersoft, justanothertownie Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, supersoft, kushm4sta, jcarlsoniv, Coagulation, LSB, JonnyLawRisen (0): KoshiVisceraEyes (0): jcarlsonivMig (0): ChezinuLSB (0): JonnyLawModkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo, austinmcc is lynched.
Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory.
Day 2 ends in
Looking at it with colors, I think it would be hilarious if the entire scum team was voting for Roffles.
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Well, no, you have rayn. You've shouted down the cases that you consider bad since D2. Which is fine, but it still counts as defending him.
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On December 12 2013 23:48 kushm4sta wrote:
so 2 more scum 1 more sk?
lsb mocsta scum
roffles sk
are we still working under the assumption that there are 5 scum?
I guess it's logical if we also consider 1 3rd party. I just figured there would be more than 5 scum in a game this size, but it fits the flavor.
On December 12 2013 23:48 Mig wrote:
The post that MZ calls a scumslip by roffles is interesting. Roffles says he didnt want to play in a game where people are trying to win by using technicalities. The person trying to get him modkilled was Rean (town). Would roffles be so bitter about a townie accusing him if he were town?
I'm not sure I would speculate too much on it. I'd be bitter if anyone was trying to gun me for modkill in any game. The fact that kush has been trying to get multiple people modkilled pisses me off as it is, and I wasn't even directly affected.
I really would like to hear from Onegu right now.
You and me both, I'm still anticipating the case on me along with, ya know, any reads.
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On December 12 2013 23:57 Koshi wrote:
at least 3 more scum kush. And 1 sk maybe.
oh, math is hard.
2+2=5 right guys? I don't have a math degree or anything...
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does anyone happen to have totals of damage done to everyone thus far? I would think that people on the lower end of the "damage taken spectrum" would be more likely to be scum, no?
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On December 13 2013 00:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 00:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
does anyone happen to have totals of damage done to everyone thus far? I would think that people on the lower end of the "damage taken spectrum" would be more likely to be scum, no? Yeah lets not talk too much about how much hp we have left. Pretty sure nobody is on such a low hp total that they are excused for a lynch.
Well, I'm not as concerned about the people who have taken lots of damage (and scum knows at least how much damage they've done to targets) as I am with the people who haven't taken much or any damage.
I don't want HP totals, although I didn't even think about revealing low HP targets, and I agree that I don't think anyone is low enough to disregard.
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Who's health has Mig checked with his scream so far? I thought it had been confirmed that he was Cho, but if the people who "confirmed" it happened to also be scum, then it could be a fake claim?
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