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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#5738
On December 11 2013 01:15 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
##DEMACIA!!!


can you use your lazer and your checks simultaniously?


I would be surprised, as it doesn't appear multiple abilities can be used in the night.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#5740
On December 11 2013 01:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Probably. It's not expressly forbidden in my PM, as I can use the laser during the day too.

I shot at supersoft and jaybrundage.


I may stand corrected then.

So what's it do? Just big damage?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 16:37 GMT
#5761
On December 10 2013 06:19 Coagulation wrote:
mig why u bus me?


On December 10 2013 06:46 Coagulation wrote:
mig check the qt i got a plan


How likely is it that Coag said this to throw any scum scent away from Mig?

Coag was obviously going to die. He made big scumtell and was punished for it. What's the point of saying all of this? To make us think Mig is scum? To make us think Mig is town because Coag flipped scum?

It is even worth taking into consideration?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#5765
On December 11 2013 01:42 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 01:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:19 Coagulation wrote:
mig why u bus me?


On December 10 2013 06:46 Coagulation wrote:
mig check the qt i got a plan


How likely is it that Coag said this to throw any scum scent away from Mig?

Coag was obviously going to die. He made big scumtell and was punished for it. What's the point of saying all of this? To make us think Mig is scum? To make us think Mig is town because Coag flipped scum?

It is even worth taking into consideration?



Its called wifom for a reason. Why are you bringing this up?


Thinking out loud.

There is a lot of WIFOM in games always. But this was intentionally created WIFOM either for a purpose or because Coag is a dick.

I don't think it's completely negligible, but it's something I'm willing to put in the back of mind for now.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:02 GMT
#5808
On December 11 2013 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh, what really gets my goat is that there were so many replacements that we ran out RIGHT when I needed one.

Anyway, you guys should just lynch me tomorrow to clear the air. I've used my laser and my checks have apparently been bad so fuck it right? I'm useless, and people think I'm scum, just lynch me and get some clarity up in this piece.


I wouldn't say your checks were bad. If I had known one was coming my way I would have done things differently. The only thing I don't follow is why you used two people who have been questionable in everyone's minds instead of someone who was more townie around that time.

It's fine, hopefully things will work nicely now that my delay is off and we'll actually get some info.

On December 11 2013 02:55 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote:
Vote count:

supersoft (0): VisceraEyes, jaybrundage
Rean (0): raynpelikoneet
JonnyLaw (0): Mocsta, geript
austinmcc (9): Rean, sandroba, Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, sandroba, Meapak_Zipph, jaybrundage, mkfuba07, Risen, geript
OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu
Koshi (0): Chezinu
kushm4sta (0): LSB, sandroba
ticklishmusic (0): ticklishmusic
jcarlsoniv (2): Risen, gtrsrs, kushm4sta, ticklishmusic
Chezinu (0): ticklishmusic
Meapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi, kushm4sta, Chezinu, supersoft, justanothertownie
Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, supersoft, kushm4sta, jcarlsoniv, Coagulation, LSB, JonnyLaw
Risen (0): Koshi
VisceraEyes (0): jcarlsoniv
Mig (0): Chezinu
LSB (0): JonnyLaw

Modkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo,

austinmcc is lynched.
Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory.

Day 2 ends in



sidenote: the "italic"-marked people. It's from my experience typical scumbehavior to just sit on someone who doesn't get lynched at the end of the day, even/especially when it's extremely tense between two targets.


You don't consider the people who stayed on Roffles to be scummy by the same logic? I wasn't around this towards the end of this day, but from what I remember reading, the lynch had come down to M_Z and austin, with one final push onto austin at the end.

Why don't you have anyone on Roffles in italics?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#5815
On December 11 2013 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. Onegu is town imo. That case on Odin was too good for a scum member and it had some really good things in it that only a townie would think. Do you think that something that big was written by scum? Onegu not my first target at all.

Like the only thing that I don't like about Onegu is that Malz normally spawns little thingies when his target die. I wonder what those are doing. Or maybe they don't spawn in this game. But still. What does it do? Not too bothered about it though.


Onegu said that his voidling for N2 was on Coag, and his voidling target N1 was hidden in his filter.

His filter wasn't very big, so looking, it seems like he placed his N1 voidling on Odin, which would coincide nicely with his case on Odin.

I agree Onegu is probably town. But he's still promising a lot of things and not delivering, which is scummy. Onegu, we want to see your thoughts and reads. You're the only one that can help yourself here.

+ Show Spoiler +
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#5822
On December 11 2013 03:15 sandroba wrote:
Does anyone know if mkfuba's night action got stopped too?


I think that might depend.

If he was roleblocked, then I would think so. If the invention was stopped by Kassadin (not sure if this is how his silence ability thing works), then his night action may not have been?

Kassadin - Null Sphere - Each night during the one hour resolution period, you will receive the results of two actions that have been submitted at random (X damage, roleblock, X heal, etc.) and their targets. You may choose to silence one of the actions, causing it not to resolve.


It says "results of two actions". I would assume that using an invention would count as an action.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#5828
On December 11 2013 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Can someone remind me of why everyone seems to be totally sure that Kassadin is in the game again?


I'm basing it off of one of the lists where someone said Kassadin exists. I would be surprised if he isn't in the game, he's super strong for both teams, but even more so for scum.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:25 GMT
#5833
On December 11 2013 03:23 supersoft wrote:
I can check two people by teleportin between them. Cecking if there is a kassadin should be possible.
Where is the last updated list?


jcarlsoniv
onlywonderboy kushm4sta
Rean
JonnyLaw
ticklishmusic
gtrsrs
Roffles
BloodyC0bbler Onegu
VisceraEyes
Risen
supersoft
raynpelikoneet
Mocsta
Mig
Oatsmaster
jaybrundage
nyxnyxnyx LSB
Koshi
marvellosity mkfuba07
justanothertownie
sandroba
Meapak_Ziphh

This is what's in the OP.

Is this up to date?[/b][/b]
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:28 GMT
#5838
so...someone mash those two lists together, cuz I think all abilities are based on the signup list, right?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:31 GMT
#5846
On December 11 2013 03:30 supersoft wrote:
I could teleport between rean and JL


Rean/JL
Rean/kush
oats/JayB
gtrsrs/Roffles

All seem like decent target areas, the last one probably the least only because they probably are VTs ~_~
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:39 GMT
#5853
rayn, once again, please calm your tits

There has been a lot of butthurt and rage quitting and modkills this game, town is a mess right now, but things could be looking up. Why don't you take a break from the game until day post?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 18:57 GMT
#5873
SS, you only get roles with your TF check?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 19:04 GMT
#5881
On December 11 2013 03:57 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 03:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
SS, you only get roles with your TF check?


I get the roles of the two players at my side and everyone who is untargetable will be revealed.


Oh interesting. And you get this info immediately?

If we're gonna try to focus JL with KP, then between gtrsrs/Roffles might actually be the best option. I also don't mind between Oats and JayB.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 20:00 GMT
#5915
On December 11 2013 04:59 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 04:50 sandroba wrote:
do you have to do that in thread?


no not really - but since i am lazy and only posting from my phone ;-)


Well if you haven't already, I'd PM mods to be sure it goes through.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 20:43 GMT
#5924
On December 11 2013 05:12 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 03:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 11 2013 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. Onegu is town imo. That case on Odin was too good for a scum member and it had some really good things in it that only a townie would think. Do you think that something that big was written by scum? Onegu not my first target at all.

Like the only thing that I don't like about Onegu is that Malz normally spawns little thingies when his target die. I wonder what those are doing. Or maybe they don't spawn in this game. But still. What does it do? Not too bothered about it though.


Onegu said that his voidling for N2 was on Coag, and his voidling target N1 was hidden in his filter.

His filter wasn't very big, so looking, it seems like he placed his N1 voidling on Odin, which would coincide nicely with his case on Odin.

I agree Onegu is probably town. But he's still promising a lot of things and not delivering, which is scummy. Onegu, we want to see your thoughts and reads. You're the only one that can help yourself here.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHXyVbxijko#t=19



In my Odin case in a hidden spoiler I role claim and say who I used my voidling on. Like koshi finding it means he read my case fully, because of this I give him a town read. Mean while people who just skimmed it or didnt read it all I find somewhat suspicious.


I'm confused as to how you arrived at your conclusion that Koshi fully read your case and found it? In the post from Koshi that I quoted, he's asking about malzahar and his voidlings

Like the only thing that I don't like about Onegu is that Malz normally spawns little thingies when his target die. I wonder what those are doing. Or maybe they don't spawn in this game. But still. What does it do? Not too bothered about it though.


To me, it seems that he not only didn't read the OP, which tells exactly what the voidlings do, but he also doesn't even know that you placed your voidling or that they even exist, even though you explicitly state in your super secret spoiler that you put a voidling on Odin.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 10 2013 21:06 GMT
#5939
Risen - true team player
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#6317
Why in the world would Soniv throw the lantern to JayB?!


Incredibly valid question.

Short Answer: I think he's scum.

Long Answer: Story time!

Before I explain myself, I need to reveal the full information about my lantern. This will hopefully give you guys some insight into my mindset, because I know some of my actions this game have seemed weird.

Lantern: Day action. I throw it to someone. They get the lantern at night post, and they have the option to click it. If they don't, nothing happens. If they do, they are pulled away from their location for the night and anything targeting them will miss. However, anything targeting me for the night will also hit them. This is something I have left a secret for fear of scum targeting me in order to get a 2 for 1 deal.

N1: Threw lantern to Rayn during the day, he used it, all is good.

N2: Threw lantern to VE during the day. He said in thread he would not use it. I have no idea why, he apparently thought the lantern had malicious intent.

I used my box this night for two reasons:
  • Having outed myself as a protective role D2, I had expected myself to be a fairly high priority target for N2.
  • In case VE did take the lantern, I wanted to make sure that if damage came my way, he would survive the night for the parity check.


Unfortunately, VE also used his parity check on me, so that completely fucked everything up.

D3:So here I am trying to decide who to throw the lantern to. At this point, I was still working under the assumption that I would have taken damage night 2. This seemed like a logical conclusion - only Chez died N2, some damage was scattered around, some of it was town KP.

I decided to take a risk. Thinking that it was likely I had taken damage N2, and, under the same logic, that I would take damage N3, I didn't want to throw the lantern to someone who I thought was town and end up killing them with it. This led me to the choice of throwing the lantern to someone I thought was scum.

But why JayB? Because I needed to throw it to someone who would also click it. I haven't said much about JayB this game, so I figured the chances of him taking it were decently high. I don't know if anyone else that I've considered scum openly would have clicked it.

tl;dr I was making an attempt to kill Jay through protecting him. As it is clearly evident, I was unsuccessful. I have, in fact, taken 0 damage this game, which surprises me.

The ensuing "holy shit why did soniv lantern jayb" upon the day post was expected. What wasn't expected was gtrsrs. He pops in with his post to avoid his modkill, but makes absolutely no mention of me. In the middle of a shit storm about an action I made, he doesn't say anything about it? His only contribution this game was a case on me, and he doesn't take this opportunity?

So take this information however you will. I have explained my mindset and the motivation behind my decision. Was it stupid? I don't really know, it didn't work out the way I was hoping.

Unfortunately, I don't know where this leaves my lantern power - probably limited use because of its additional mechanic, so I'm definitely willing to hear input on how to make good use of it.

--------------------------------------------------------

@JAT: Absolutely activate that double lynch. As far as I know, doubling town KP is always good, we just have to make sure we hit the right people. My votes will be on JayB and gtrsrs. As for finishing off JL - I think it's worth doing, so I'm behind you on that decision as well.

@Risen: If what Rayn said is true (that a lot of your QT discussion was concerning how to use your roles together), then I find it incredibly difficult to accept that you just happened to forget to use your ability.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#6322
On December 12 2013 01:54 Mig wrote:
jcarl why did you recommend super to use his check on jay if you knew you had given him the lantern?


I stated that my preference was between gtrsrs and roffles. If Jay thought he was being targeted by supersoft, it might increase his chances of taking the lantern and thus my plan actually doing something useful.


Also n2 chez was the only one who died but ticklish took 849 damage. You thought you also somehow took damage?


Combination of "I thought something fishy was up with ticklish" and I had forgotten to take this into consideration at the end of D3.

But put yourself in my shoes. I had outed myself as a medic D2. Is it not reasonable that between the two nights 2 and 3 I would be killed? I have no idea why I'm still alive, let alone why I haven't taken any damage at all.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 11 2013 17:02 GMT
#6323
ebwop: Is it not reasonable to assume*
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