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On December 07 2013 00:47 justanothertownie wrote: Now that's a plain lie. I did not call you scum yet. Will have to check the rest of your play for that and I don't have the time right now. isn't Hogwarts where I streamed u? u had trust issues with me all game, or am I getting confused with noir? | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:50 justanothertownie wrote: That was noir. In Hogwarts I don't remember ever having a scumread on you. syllo thought I was scum. I only became confirmed through night actions anyways, its a silly point to hold me up on as we have played two games. and o nly one unread me clearly. like I said, none of those items u raised dictate scummentality. it just means we disagree on theory fundamentals. will reply tomorrow. sleep time for me | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: austin I am genuinely confused about your case on me. You don't like the fact that I aggressively questioned koshi, that's basically it. Your entire case is based around one interaction which you seem to be willfully misinterpreting in order to call me scummy. itsna lot more than that everything u do goes no where without explaining why it's dropped e.g? gtrsrs there's more. read the past 2 pages between Austin and me too hard to type it all | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:56 justanothertownie wrote: Well I had the feeling you were pushing JL/defending Rean with bullshit reasoning which depending on their alignment may very well show scum mentality. I stand by my reasoning on jl and especially on rean even Austin who thought rean was scummy came to a similar logic outcome. but yeah I can go into more detail tomorrow. sleeping for reals now | ||
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sat day is always. busy for me. sorry dude, if u really want a response I will turn a computer on, but honestly I think it can wait? will check back in 2 to see if u want me to go on comp. o/w night | ||
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As promised: + Show Spoiler [Response] + On December 07 2013 00:38 justanothertownie wrote: So, in the last game we played together (hogwarts) I could see Mocstas thought process very easily most of the time. Now while catching up I see so many posts I disagree on it is baffling. I don't follow this. If Austin is more valuable in the long run and JL in the short one we should lynch JL based on that logic (good hero). I don't even see why austin is better in the long gain. Because Austin is a leader and coordinator and in general a highly experienced player. If both were scum; Austin would be the kill that delivers a better outcome to town *always* You can disagree, but this opinion is non-alignment indicative (1) Why would a scummer be such an idiot and attack you on easy to disprove grounds? That is not scummy in my opinion it is just dumb if you are right. (2) Many people voiced concerns about him (even Prome who was one of the most influential people in this game - you even use his case yourself). -> Easy bandwagon. (1) Scum love to run discredit campaigns. See Rayn in GoT especially. Its an easy & effective tactic that works on the sheep masses of town. Similar to why ad hominem response work so well in general. Mafia is a game of different opinions. I find this to be a scummy tell in general - I don't care if you disagree. (2) LOL. I was pushing JL long before Prome came in. I asked him to look into JL. Prome's thoughts were synonymous with my own, and he flipped CONFIRMED town. Far from an easy bandwagon. This is so wrong. Why does that look good to you? He KNOWS it would be suspicious not to do so and it is the easiest way to play along without having to do shit. I have already gone through this. I don't see how this action benefits scum in any, way, shape or form. Unless this guy is off doing his own thing and not using scums inherent advantages, this move makes zero sense to me. Even Austin who wanted to lynch Rean, agreed with this point. No, no, no. Austin was clearly not a threat to mafia and why the hell should they direct more KP at him? If he is faking a read on him + shooting him with so few dmg that's either because he wants to mislynch him (why shoot him with more KP ?) or to look better (why shoot him with more KP and confirm this wrong?). See above. We can agree to disagree. | ||
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please stop bickering. 1. rayn, if koshi is scum -- hes still got to make pro town stuff like that police radio. let's not convince town to blast kp abilities his way. it is night after all. 2. koshi, I think rayn is town. antagonising hhim about the mislynch is not going to improve our situation. we need strong players like rayn still involved in the game. hes already said hes demotivaterd. this isn't helping. as for scum. jl for his opportunistic vote on riffles yesterday that came out of left field. mz is still scum if koshi is town based on those early game interactions. I still think he should have been lynched. LSB is scum. hides behind that ability tracker list and isn't even updating it correctly. seriously, what type of townie call for a policy lynch on someone not shitting up the thread. coag has said nothing all game but has posted elsewhere. hes scum and its not his bday anymore. I'm starting to consider jay. the lurking and DAT vote on Austin..especially when mz was close to lynch I also don't like kush anymore. yesterday was not the day for big play votes. I admit this could be OMGUs so hes the lowest on my shit list. | ||
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On December 07 2013 22:58 kushm4sta wrote: @koshi yeah i agree rayn could be scum. has there been rayn spam? ^^^ not the lowest on my shitlist anymore. look at kush, any chance he gets to reverse a read. call me scum for my position in Austin but then look how long it took you to jump ships off him. if I'm scum to you, why did you follow my vote onto mz??? | ||
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On December 07 2013 23:21 kushm4sta wrote: Kush, if i *was* scum you would be the least of my concerns. Your point is debunked.hi mocsta! little scum cutie pie I want pinch your scummy cheeks. I called you scum because of your shitlogic case on austin. OK I change my mind about my scumreads alot. Why does this make me scummy? Since when is it a crime against town to change your mind. You have made massive 180's with zero justification in between. This isn't natural with strong town reads -- which is the language you yourself used to describe people like myself and rayn previously. Why did I vote MZ? I said why and I can say it again if you want. I think the question you are trying to ask is why did you vote for mz if you are scum? Well either because MZ is town or you felt threatened by my realization that you were using shitlogic, so you felt the need for a bus. One which your team easily foiled anyway. And i would like a rehash of why you voted MZ. Afterall, you think I was scum for what I said about Austin -- who when dialoguing with me never insinuated/called me scum.. You even admit prior to this that you think Austin is town. So why did you keep your vote on Austin for such a prolonged period (even when you thought he was town) and then follow by voting your scumreads scum read (i.e. copy my vote on MZ) | ||
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On December 07 2013 23:59 kushm4sta wrote: dont even tryto scumread me mocsta. i will destroy you with my towniness that shines like that sun. Chortle On December 06 2013 18:08 kushm4sta wrote: moc is not scum or i quit mafia forever Like I said before.: even Austin didn't think my interpretation of his sequence logic was scummy. Keep trying. | ||
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On December 08 2013 00:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: The amount of butthurt in this game is just sad. Hey rayn, what do you think of utilizing the Crown on some combination of lurkers? Something like Roffles/Coag/Mig If I understand the way it works correctly... If 2 are scum, then we blast a town lurker. Unfortunate, but ultimately worth the price. If 2 are town, we blast scum. If no one dies then all 3 are town or all 3 scum (the former would be more the statistically more likely case). Order is important with the crown I thought. lemme chase up post logic to confirm. | ||
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On December 05 2013 19:10 Koshi wrote: Please type in the thread: ##Baby: Player X ##Mother: Player Y ##Mother: Player Z There will be a parity cop check done. In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die. In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. On December 05 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote: There are more option than that obviously and not all information is gathered instant. But over time this check would be quite strong. I just hope hosts didn't change too much about how the item works. X=Town Y=Town Z=Town Nothing happens X=Scum Y=Town Z=Town Nothing happens X=Town Y=Scum Z=Town Y will die X=Town Y=Town Z=Scum Z will die On December 05 2013 19:50 Koshi wrote: Order doesnt matterAh wait. I copy pasted a mistake. I fixed this to the hosts in a next message so the item should work properly. I forgot I made that mistake. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have the same alignment. Player Y will die. The point of the item is to have baby go to his same alignement mother and the different alignment mother to be executed. My bad. | ||
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On December 08 2013 02:33 Koshi wrote: No seriously guys. Who is the towniest VT? {Kush, Rean, gtrsrs, Mocsta, Oats, jaybrundage} all all known VTs. My suggestion: Go with *your* gut. It is your power after all. If you had to ask me: Out of that list I would probably only consider Oats or myself personally -- maybe gtrsrs Kush - I think is scum Rean - Doesnt give a shit about the game gtrsrs - Might give a shit about the game if has a hero. Waste of a power I think though Oats - Seems town Jaybrundage - Suspicious votes / lurky | ||
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On December 08 2013 02:46 Rean wrote: Do you think that, given an item with such a powerful ability, I'd just not use it or something? Nah, I already lean town on you, so you being a hero doesn't affect my read on you. The point being that if you became a hero I don't think you would do anything more to drive the thread towards a successful lynch. Evident by your delurk to this post :p | ||
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On December 08 2013 02:55 Rean wrote: Well, it is great in theory that you would sacrifice yourself. However, to be frank: I don't even know who two of your scum reads are.I don't quite follow. Does it matter how much I'd do to have people lynched afterwards? All that matters is it ends in the hands of a townie. Since the item use is entirely public anyone could follow up on what happens. For what it's worth, if I had it I'd use it like: baby = scumread, mother x = me, mother y = scumread. In that case, if I die both are scum, if I was wrong about baby mother Y will die, if I was wrong about mother y or even both no-one dies. There is one thing to establish your townieness -- which many would argue you *haven't* done. It is another to successfully find scum. However, I thought there are two separate occurrences here. #1 = Viktor power --> VT is given a second chance champion pick #2 = Invention (Baby Machine) I assume #1 and #2 can be given out independently. | ||
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On December 08 2013 03:04 Koshi wrote: Close but not yet there Mocsta. Baby machine is the solomon thingo and needs a day to setup. and this cycle you pushing out the police radio thingo  | ||
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On December 08 2013 15:30 Coagulation wrote: Kush is like the only one on the ball taking names making reads and calling shots for town. And he just admitted he has absolutely no fucking clue what hes talking about. This town is so completely fucked on so many levels. Nuke kush, jonny or Mz Preferably kush | ||
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U r rehashing the reasoning I used to call u scum. As for your retort. U r jumping to worst case conclusions to support your story. Rubbish accusations all over and u don't even follow with a vote. Hi kush ##vote: tushmasta | ||
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On December 08 2013 17:02 kushm4sta wrote: mocsta can you be more specific with your attack on me/ defense on yourself. Why is what I am saying wrong? Who gives a fuck if I haven't voted yet?? Why would it make me scum to not vote you yet?? Obvious I am not going to vote you if I can't convince anyone you are scum. Lol So u k ow u can't convince anyone but continue to discredit me Great town contribution there kush Our difference I think Jl is scum, but peeps aren't biting. So I'm still figuring out the remaining team. As for your other qs. I will get back to u when I'm home | ||
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why are you treating coags claim as gospel. | ||
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