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On December 04 2013 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Also question for rayn and marv (anybody else may answer aswell but I want those opinions especially): are there any kind of roles that should definitely claim in your opinion?
I'm not really setup-man so I don't have any particular opinion other than what I've already stated - claimed VTs should claim what they tried to choose originally.
There are probably ones that I missed but this includes
Rean
Mocsta
OdinofPergo
I'm sure various claiming will be useful at some point but I don't think that point is now.
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On December 04 2013 02:43 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 04 2013 02:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 02:37 Roffles wrote:On December 04 2013 02:25 gtrsrs wrote:On December 04 2013 02:20 marvellosity wrote:
Your past town-games suggest you are usually focused on getting a good lynch too, so I'm confused that you are only concentrating on this. there should be no confusion, as i have clarified >i don't have any good scum reads >i'm not as aggressive a person as i used to be >i don't like building cases on other games. later in the game based on reactions to night activities i will be of more help if you want to give me a player to analyze i might do it, but i'm not gonna scramble to find scum reads when there's nothing of consequence yet posted. thanks for understanding  Probably the worst post I've read in a while. If you're town, please kill yourself. What. How on earth is this acceptable? Roffles' regular dosage of cancer. Although, Roffles, you have a 1 page filter and haven't said anything in quite a long time. Scum reads? I don't give a fuck if he does this regularly, there is NO WAY anyone should be allowed to say that ever.
There's no way a townie should have said literally nothing about anything this late on Day 1 either, but here we are with you, aren't we?
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On December 04 2013 08:13 Mig wrote:
VE do you think bum is mafia? You are switching off of LSB just because you are lazy or what?
Marv/sandorba any concerns with everyone jumping on Bum without hesitation?
Stick about if you're about. I'm only just about. My aboutness is ready.
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Dunno, I'm on page 105. I'm kinda concerned the thread hasn't moved much while I was away. Also jotted one of your posts down so that I can think about it when I get to the end.
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Why are you hinting? If it's that obvious why do you keep playing around with it?
I literally know nothing of LoL champions having never played LoL in my life.
All I'm hearing is that you're a wanker. That isn't helping me.
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ya I'm on page 108 (bet y'all love my updates). I'm not sure what to think of anything yet until I've thought about things that sandroba and jat have said about LSB and bum. It made my head hurt at first glance so I need to think about it properly when I finish catching up.
It's pretty worrying that literally no other wagon has formed or been pushed by anyone since we started on bum. Everyone kinda just hopped on. I don't really know how much of that is a byproduct of the fact that the early voters are all highly influential players (sandroba, marv, Mig) and what mafia would be actually doing if bum is mafia. Maybe they just can't do anything.
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gtrsrs, why do you think there's no chance they will be lynched? If you have something solid, let's hear it. There's still a decent chunk of time left in the day.
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lol jay is mafia. Christ.
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On December 04 2013 09:31 geript wrote:Is this like you're agreeing with me thing or a "you're out of your fucking mind again geript" thing?
It's a "I just got to his post in the thread and it's fucking terrible thing".
His last 3 posts
On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.
On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
VE gimme some of your scum reads so I can go reread filters later tonite.
On December 04 2013 07:56 jaybrundage wrote:
I really liked LSB's post about Bum.
Also sandro's had some good points too.
##Vote Bumatlarge
Also i have been seeing this crop up.
I'm a VT I tried to take lux.
Last post is almost directly a scumclaim it feels like. I don't know if I'm overreacting.
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"I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it.
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Mig read the 3 posts I just quoted and tell me that comes from a townie :/
It feels atm like jay just attacked me so he could say he would never attack me as mafia
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On December 04 2013 09:35 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
"I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it. What do you think of the paranoid argument.
I do actually like your thinking with the paranoid stuff, but I don't know if that's "it", if you know what I mean. Which you probably don't. Generally speaking I agree with you that his semi-not-really push on me feels off in some way.
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bum is the bigger "prize" though. I'd like people like mig/sandroba etc. to talk about jay a bit while i'm still around. Of all the "vote bum" posts, jay's really really jumped out at me. So empty and soulless.
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On December 04 2013 09:42 Mig wrote:
Yea just read it. If that was jay's plan (attack you for town cred) would he just instantly say it in the thread? And most mafia players have heightened self awareness if they say in thread if I lurk I am mafia they don't generally just lurk afterwards. Seems pretty shallow and dumb. Then again if he fake claimed Lux with the 2nd to last pick that is pretty dumb also. Such a dumb claim.
I will say though him focusing you then coming in and liking LSB's post for why bum is mafia when LSB probably had the weakest points is also pretty bad. One other thing, I asked him if he could explain why he took Lux. He disappeared and didn't answer but then later on did vote in the voting thread. So either he is very lazy and isn't even reading the thread this close to lynch or he is actively lurking.
From what I know of jay, his thought process doesn't really go more than one step ahead.
So attack marv ----> take some heat -----> say "why would I attack marv" doesn't seem an unlikely progression to me if he is actually mafia.
His popping in with his last post is really what is driving at me. The lurking thing is just some optional extra. Just the way he came into the thread with that post and left again man. So bad.
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He's usually a pretty eager beaver, Mig.
Like an earnest puppy, perhaps?
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Sorry, I noted down this post also as I was catching up. I'm just going to say something now even though I don't want or expect anything to happen with it this cycle.
On December 04 2013 05:00 Onegu wrote:
So Im on page 66 rigjt now and it 3am. I promise I will catch up tomorrow, but deadline is in 7 hours. So I am right now confident in my ability to read rayn and believe he is town as he was the first person to really start scum hunting. So I am going to sheep him and consolidate, as close to where I am reading people said it was really important not to have outlander votes so people can analyze it. So I should be up before deadline amd get somemore reading in.
##Vote:bumatlarge
This read on rayn seems really overblown. It doesn't take a genius to work out the guy with easily the longest filter is probably town. Also too much explanation on why he's parking his vote where he's parking his vote.
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On December 04 2013 09:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it.
Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to.
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Both sound pretty kinky to me.
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I wish bum would come back and post some shiz, because being a european I can't stay awake indefinitely.
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As an aside, these were the posts I wanted to think about
On December 04 2013 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 09:07 LSB wrote:
Okay here is my DANGER DANGER list of roles who I want public. Should mafia get their hands on them and use them to their own devices it is basically gg. Viktor, Heimerdinger, Tryndamere, Janna, Kha'Zix
Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 03:34 LSB wrote:
Responses to things pointed at me
On not banning mafia roles:
Comeon guys, if someone picks and uses a mafia role, you kill em because they are scum. No sane townie would ever use the mafia role. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:
My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer Does anyone else see the logical problem here? He lists Tryndamere as mafia role, claims someone who picks a mafia role is scum if he uses it, picks Tryndamere and wants to use it although nobody disputes his claim. There is NO REASON for him to pick this role at all because he is dead last on the draft list. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 12:04 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim. Yo, there have been multiple people questioning whether or not I'm actually Tyr and multiple people questioned whether even if I am Tyr if my self reported damage is correct. Sitting on my role is a horrible horrible idea and the quickest way to get lynched day 2. Plus I want to kill Bum. Actually that's most of the reason I don't get why it is horrible to sit on your role. If you are lynched Day2 it won't be because you did not verify your roleclaim. If LSB is scum it makes sense for him to roleclaim after he found out how useless his ability truely is (50 dmg...). If it was more powerful he could have saved this for the right moment or he could have fakeclaimed. Add to this how he did almost nothing besides going roleclaim, roleclaim, roleclaim... Going to look at JonnyLaw and Bum filters now.
On December 04 2013 03:57 sandroba wrote:
People voting LSB here is what I think:
It is only possible LSB is scum if bum is scum.
If Bum is town and LSB is scum, LSB wouldn't have taken trynn, because his team would have told him not to do so since Bum was probably going to take it.
If Bum is scum and LSB is scum, he could have dropped it to LSB, but I don't think that's the most likely scenario.
If Bum is scum and LSB is town and just replaced in and didn't read bum's plans he could have went for tryn. This seems likely to me because LSB only noticed Bum didn't follow his own plan after BC called out bum on it.
The other scenario is bum and lsb are town, which is also possible.
But the base line is, if you think LSB is scum vote Bum first. I bet you any amount you want that if LSB was scum and just replaced in he would have consulted with his team before picking something and they would have told him Bum was planning on picking trynn.
By and large I agree with sandro's reasoning I think, and I noted your post down jat because I agreed with the first half of your post when I read it. LSB posted stuff about it in the interim and I have no idea at all if I buy what he says. I just don't know lol.
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