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Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:41 GMT

#2343

On November 27 2013 13:35 cDgCorazon wrote:

Aqua/JJD/Mocsta made at least 5 posts in the format I suggested. I'm too lazy to filter dive them all but that is what started the bullying. I had a bit of a meltdown D2 about it.

But it was random?

I'm surprised it wasn't Rayne, he is savage at the drop of a pin sometimes

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:43 GMT

#2346

On November 27 2013 13:39 cDgCorazon wrote:

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I don't like this post. It looks scummy

That is how people get their points across

(Though I don't red stuff)

It's a FoS, it isn't a ihu

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:44 GMT

#2348

On November 27 2013 13:43 Mocsta wrote:

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Is this convo heading towards solving the game slam?

Looks like you just talking shit to me.

Maybe! I'd rather the game didn't require yet another replace, for one, and two, if Cora is a better player overall TL benefits. So yeah, it very well could.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:46 GMT

#2349

On November 27 2013 13:44 cDgCorazon wrote:

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No, they did it multiple times and didn't follow up on it at all.

Btw Moc:

Welcome to Back to the Basics Mini Mafia! You are Sergei Mikhailov a Mobster (Vanilla Townie) . You so dislike the term mobster, you prefer to consider yourself a business man. You've never been implicated by the police, despite the dozen or so murders your family stands accused of. You are very much a neo-capitalist, having abandoned the old comunist regime at the height of the cold war, your ancient KGB connections still serve you well, allowing you to operate in the gray area between law and crime that is oh so difficult to pin down. Crush those who would bring down your "business"

This is my real role

That always happens. That probably means they dropped them. If not maybe they are just as scummy.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:55 GMT

#2357

Well you don't lack confidence at all. Here I differ greatly, I am paranoid.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:58 GMT

#2360

On November 27 2013 13:57 Bereft wrote:
cora THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. this is about lynching someone who is certainly scum vs someone who is almost certainly scum. why are you being like this?? this is the safe play here. this has nothing to do with us discounting your reads. nobody is bullying you. nobody put any worth in my JJD town read either or my mocsta case. I don't mind. I dropped my mocsta case in large part because of your town read.

You put things a lot better than I do.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 04:59 GMT

#2361

On November 27 2013 13:57 Bereft wrote:
cora THIS IS NOT IN SPITE OF YOU. this is about lynching someone who is certainly scum vs someone who is almost certainly scum. why are you being like this?? this is the safe play here. this has nothing to do with us discounting your reads. nobody is bullying you. nobody put any worth in my JJD town read either or my mocsta case. I don't mind. I dropped my mocsta case in large part because of your town read.

However, ftfy

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:06 GMT

#2364

On November 27 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote:

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No, you guys are discounting my reads. You've done it all game. I had to motivate about 6 people to read my Onegu case. Why should that be?

Several people promised to vote for Onegu and LIED TO ME. Flat out lied to me and reneged on their promises. I want to lynch Onegu, how hard of a request is that? He's going to flip scum because I spent 72 hours attacking him in all the right ways and poked a hole in every single argument he has made.

And now Mocsta and Sciberia think he is town? Like WTF is this?

I'm done not being taken seriously. You should have done it D1 and especially D2. Now I have the power and you all want to throw the game? It's pretty sad.

If a man believes he will meet someone at a given time and doesn't show, doesn't call to explain, and has no further interaction for a week, did he lie?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:07 GMT

#2367

On November 27 2013 14:05 Bereft wrote:
do you not care about winning? are you not even willing to consider the possibility that you COULD be wrong? onegu is a good lynch. but holyflare is the perfect one. I don't know what else to say. I'm disappointed. play with your head and not with your heart, corazon.

Ftfy

Fwiw we could use more the rest of TL attitude here

I am guilty of degenerating but I'm trying to remove the mire

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:10 GMT

#2374

On November 27 2013 14:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
If this town cared about winning JJD and Rayn would still be alive.

...

I do care about lxiii. I take offense? I lynched town Rayne there, and with vengeance. He raged blue fire at me. I'm hoping he'll call it pax next game.

That is definitely fallacious though.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:19 GMT

#2378

On November 27 2013 14:07 Mocsta wrote:

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Says the guy that participated

I'm going to say this politely.

Stop being a CUNT

How about you stop acting all hostile like Rayne?

Pretty soon if I see more of this I am just going to make a blog challenging all the hostile people on here and seeing if they have a life. Do you all live in some butt ugly city covered in smog such that mafia wincons are more important to you than being civil?

I go snow skiing when possible, and enjoy motor sports. I am really good at target shooting, and play paintball. (Don't like air soft). I play video games, love 'em but am terrible at them. I also play hearts, settlers of Catan, mahjong, monopoly, and occasional others. I have taken flying lessons, and at about 12 hours I discovered it is too expensive. However, when I can I water ski.

I am also socially inept, and have an autism spectrum disorder. Why rage in mafia? Step back, and check out the grand scheme of things. Someone is so put off by what is going on, that they are taking the game personally. Getting personal about it doesn't help, why are YOU taking their messing up the game personal?

That being said, Cora you kind of are seeing all this in the most negative possible light.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:23 GMT

#2381

On November 27 2013 14:18 Bereft wrote:

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what's ftfy?

and LOL did you just censor my post?

Fixed that for you.

"Censor". You could at that XD but I'm not a mod.

Yeah, dispense with the hostilities they aren't necessary at all. Neither are they helping.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:25 GMT

#2383

On November 27 2013 14:24 Bereft wrote:
holy is scum. cora is town.

alright public announcement. listen up scummers:

whoever piles on first onto the HF train will be saved for last.

Well I'm already there.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 05:26 GMT

#2384

^^ could say that btw

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 06:46 GMT

#2395

On November 27 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:
Yeah. Same conclusion scib.

Cept I don't see chezinu being blue.

Well it's 5 to vote. So unless Corazon votes with us, it's gg

Hence why I would consider voting onegu if Corazon is going to throw this game away out of spite.

Took a quick peek I'm at other game for now but I'll toss this in,

He claimed it, against Cora. Really scummy or maybe think he thought Cora was scum as it was honest, etc but there is WIFOM. Basically if not red probably our actual cop. One drawback to fc that isn't being mentioned and doesn't need to be. Just thought I'd clear that up as I still think Chezinu is vital to town victory.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 08:01 GMT

#2397

On November 27 2013 15:57 Mocsta wrote:
If he's cop. Who'd he check?

I missed the claim so guess I haven't been reading him carefully.

You mean who did his slot check.

-_-

But I feel stupid from the other game, I am really sorry but peace out i need to sleep off feeling sheepish

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 27 2013 18:31 GMT

#2426

On November 28 2013 02:13 Bereft wrote:
alright cora, I really didn't want to claim. we haven't solved this game yet and could use mafia wasting a KP. but if you won't listen to reason maybe you'll listen to COLD HARD FACTS.

I know for a fact HF is not town because I'm the veteran.

think about it - why do you think as soon as you claimed blue I became so confident in my HF read? I knew there was no chance in hell we had 3 blue roles in the game. and between you and HF, HF was lying. why do you think I was so paranoid about a red power role affecting your cop check? I knew if there was a vet AND a cop in the game, there being a red power role is a certainty. why do you think I asked HF to post his flavor and immediately knew that gmarshal didn't write it as soon as I saw it? it's completely different than mine, the blue role isn't bolded, half of it is a run on sentence... why else would HF not post his flavor as soon as he claimed vet? I'd bet all my TL dollars he was desperately waiting for gmarshal to send him some fluff and had to churn something out under the gun.

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I'm serving you a scummer on a silver platter right now. please don't throw away the game because you are too proud. the Greeks have a word for this - it's called hubris.

I once quoted a political post by p4ndemic in my profile.
He told it how it is with regard to pride.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 29 2013 00:49 GMT

#2529

May the turkey be happy.

I agree with Mocsta out of necessity. Who else is there? But I was pretty sure ONEGU was town with those notes, Bamcis play.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 29 2013 05:28 GMT

#2531

On November 29 2013 11:45 Bereft wrote:
I totally missed this earlier:

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On November 26 2013 18:06 Mocsta wrote:

On November 26 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote:

On November 26 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:

On November 26 2013 17:41 Onegu wrote:
Ok you spoiler it. I dont get why you spoil it. Really feels like you are trying to hide shit. dont even say I say its ok for him to change his reads but not you, you have done it MULTIPLE TIMES, I even say you can change your reads but you do 3 magical rereads and change your reads from scum to town and town to scum each time with no reasons given on alot of them, or only one liners. Also his reads come at a point, the his reads change once and not again like you suggest. He says he will consolidate but never takes his read back. He left himself outs you say, but he never used them. He kept his story. And aqua was confirmation biased he thought you were town, didnt have a read on jamp who tunneled him. He read over your case andddnt fact check it so you bringing up a confirmed town agreed with you means nothing.

LOl..

so you are comparing the filter of a Day1 lurker; or a Day3 active.. and then suggesting that the Day1 lurker changes his mind less?.. no shit sherlock

Aqua was C.B'd lol? Is that how you justify your position now?

Spoilering posts means I want to hide stuff --> Scummy LOL...

Let me know when you are ready to stop changing up your story

Yeah remember that part about not responding to you or cora, we arent getting anywhere. And Im not going to keep shitting up the thread with you. I know you are going to try to use onegu wasnt reading, onegu doesnt know what he was talking about when I flip, Im guess its the first post you make after I flip.

You are the one who brought up Aqua a confirmed townie agreeing with your case, I am showimg why that doesnt mean anything when it comes to that townie haveing a town read on you, at minumum a null read on jamp, and the case is about jamp haveing a scum read on aqua.

blszinghand
Scumslips do exist.

We are in MYLO. Note how onegu refers to me using his filter after he flips.

We got ourselves here scum boys n girls.

funny how HF made the exact same mistake.

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the fact that he's willing to hammer HF even though he suspects me pretty much confirms it -- an onegu lynch day 4 a no-brainer. and i did promise that the first scum to vote HF would be spared for last, so it's only fair. now it's just a matter of confirming slammer is town.

slammer! what is this? a confession??

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i feel pretty good about chezinu being the last scum; this is probably massive WIFOM, but when it becomes clear to HF he'll be lynched, suddenly chezinu becomes one of his scum reads (along with me + cora) and he even writes a case on it. i just don't think he'd have his final scum reads be 3 townies and bother to write a long case on a townie when he's moments from flipping red. also, rean's filter is more townie than jampi's in my opinion.

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On November 28 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Also, in regards to chezinu, he is purposefully manipulating information to fit his style:

On November 28 2013 00:00 Chezinu wrote:
Holyflare. The light of the first dawn. I, Chezinu the Godfather of our beloved family, have declared thee unworthy to dwell among our presence.,

1. You have broken the Chezinu Rule
2. You have lied to the family.
3. You have left the family for another.
4. You have been condemned by the Wisdom of the Dead.

##Vote Holyflare

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Doesn't need an explanation

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fake claim

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blue state

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On November 25 2013 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Why didn't Holys flavor say (medic) in parenthesis like mine and rayns say (vanilla townie)?

On November 26 2013 11:58 Aquanim wrote:
(A lot of this has been said already since I wrote a fair bit of it last night. But you can have it anyway.)

Who to lynch tomorrow? My preference is Chezinu or Onegu. I'm pretty sure both of them are in the scumteam along with one of Holyflare/Alakaslam.

The case on Jampidampi by Mocsta and the "scumslip" picked up by Thrawn is probably as close to a read on Chezinu as we're going to get, especially if Thrawn dies (since I'm pretty sure none of the rest of us have much prior experience with Chez). May as well flip that coin sooner rather than later.

As for Onegu, this last tossup with Corazon has finally broken my credulity in just how few damns Onegu gives about this game. I honestly don't think there's any way he can have thought those two posts by Corazon were at the 2-hour mark if he's seriously analysing this game. His cases on Bereft and Mocsta could easily have been written by scum just pulling out post after post after post from their filters and saying the first damning-sounding thing which comes to mind. And while I was fooled by Onegu's indignation yesterday, I've been fooled by Onegu playing dumb before (see Newbie 43). I don't intend to let it happen again. You can lynch Onegu first to satisfy Corazon, if you like.

As for Holyflare:
- I have never seen him angry as town, but that's the vibe I'm getting here
- I have never seen him this disinterested as town. Read page 4 of his filter, compare it to any town game he's played in the past, and tell me that this is a town Holyflare who is genuinely interested in pushing a lynch
- He could claim to save somebody who aren't the two who scum kills. In that case, use your judgement.
- Sure he hasn't played like this as scum before, but there's no reason to change his town meta into this and plenty of reason to change his scum meta (replaced into a scum team with lurkers, just plain doesn't want to even try to contribute)
A quick aside re. Holyflare
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If there's a save tonight obviously don't lynch Holy tomorrow, but still keep him on your radar. His play so far this game has been COMPLETELY unlike his town play, and maybe this is the scum team trying to protect Holy. It would explain their motive for having him claim in the first place. It does give us another mislynch so I think it would be poor play, but my opinion is hardly going to stop them...

maybe, MAYBE he'll get off his ass and contribute now that the weekend's over. But I think he's just scum. (Having difficulty reconciling that with the doctor claim, but... frankly that doctor claim was a f***ing awful idea whatever his alignment, so I guess it being risky as scum isn't scum-indiciative.)

Alakaslam I still gotta think about. If I die you're probably better off considering what he posts tomorrow rather than whatever thoughts I have now anyway.

In the light of this claim I have no idea who scum will shoot. If they shoot me, good luck - you're gonna need it.

(tl;dr I agree with sciberbia and mocsta, {Holyflare // Rean, Chezinu (jampi), Onegu})

Last-minute additions:
Corazon's cop claim... gah. I don't see the point if he's scum. But damn it why did you claim so long before deadline? If the scum have a framer we could be led entirely up the garden path. I hope he's planning to check someone who isn't Onegu and was just claiming that to lead scum astray. I'd far prefer to see a check on Chezinu or even Holyflare than Onegu. Given how hard Corazon bashed on Holy for his claim I have hopes that Corazon has plans he hasn't revealed yet.

He uses 4 reasons for his read based vote on me.

The first he implies does not work if the person knows what the Chezinu rule is, yet here it is as 25% of his intention for a vote. Therefore 1/4 of his reasoning is factually incorrect.

He says that a fake claim is another reason. My claim of vet is the truth so that is reasoning number 2 that is wrong, if i were to fake claim a role I wouldn't know how to do it because I don't know what the other roles would look like. It would be perfectly written because scum get fake claims, he has no mention of this. 50% factually incorrect

His third point is because I like the colour blue.........? 75% useless

Finally, he mentions the wisdom of the dead but uses incorrect logic from dead people's posts to do it. Aquanim stated that he has never seen me disinterested as town but did chezinu bother to fact check this at all? There is no mention of this so he must have done. Therefore he also read my scum game (hogwarts) where I most certainly was not disinterested either. He then uses JarJar's mention of my claim. Doctor was a fake claim and so of course JarJar was correct. However, vet was not my fake claim and he makes no mention of this either. 100% useless

Chez purposefully misleads all of you in the attempt to look like he is one of the town group. He uses useless information that is clearly not fact checked to mislead you into thinking he is doing work. His playstyle is based on reads and as you don't know what his reads are at the time you do not know what alignment he is playing for. He has claimed GF (blue town role) but came under no scrutiny from bereft for this, no mention at all even though bereft's entire reasoning was that there can't be 3 blue roles which he claimed was his only reason for attacking me.

Chezinu, Bereft. Scum team.

lol

Yes. I confess I failed I see who that was directed at XD

It wasn't even a valid statement, I was late to that train anyway.

I am so scummy

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 30 2013 03:19 GMT

#2537

?!??!!?

Well, here are two fake blue claims. Is bereft claim the third? XD

But that doesn't matter either anyway, apparently.

Chezinu successfully drew a scum shot, kudos to him- if bereft is right, that saved him because scum would have needed to delay to get two shots on Bereft. Since Chezinu had a lot of suspicion, this is a great play by him!

However, this implicates me doesn't it.

I am so scummy every game man. It's solved pretty much for now, lynch Onegu and then we have to figure it out after then...

Couldn't be Cora, moc is making all the solutions, bereft claimed blue and has apparently been a town voice all game, as has been Sciberia.

Moc are you sure Cora can't be scum?

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