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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#486
On January 06 2014 22:12 BigDad wrote:
I'm looking to hear from Balla, Suki and see what Jonny makes of my explanations before I finalise my vote in the morning. However my suspicions are still clear in the above posts and I'll probably stick with them rather than jump on a bandwagon.


This is another time you did it that i'm talking about.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:10 GMT
#490
On January 07 2014 08:05 Derrida wrote:
@Day_walker, what do you think about OWB right now? He was one of your two lynch candidates after you figured out chinstrap was IC, and I thought your justification was really superficial for arguing in favor of lynching OWB:

"Onlywonderboy because I reread his filter from the scum perspective, and I could see it making sense as scum play."


Yep:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2014 01:27 Balla24 wrote:
Nice, lots of activity. However, there's also a LOT of fluff. Rehashing old topics (particularly derrida) and reasoning etc. Try to make your posts more succint.

@Day_Walker

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 19:32 Day_Walker wrote:

Onlywonderboy because I reread his filter from the scum perspective, and I could see it making sense as scum play.




What do you mean by this? What specifically was your thinking here when you wrote this... I want to see what you came up with "onlywonderboy's" scum perspective...



He should be back soon. So definitely want some clarification/answers.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#492
Jonny, what? I didn't understand that post except for the last sentence haha...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:17 GMT
#495
On January 07 2014 08:09 BigDad wrote:
@Balla24

As far as I understand the best two ways to generate discussion early game are:

a) Ask people their opinions so we can cross reference them throughout the game.
b) Do what TheChyz did and bluff people onto bandwagons

I don't have a solid read on Suki yet, i need to have another look at her feed. I was responding to her questioning and subsequent vote.

I simply asked JonnyLaw for his opinion because my post was actually in response to something he asked earlier.


K. Well in that case, the earlier post i quoted regarding it is a little fishy to me then. It's like you're asking your town reads for approval.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:22 GMT
#498
On January 07 2014 08:16 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm saying I don't care about day walker for now.

Dragoon's martying and playing just as scummy.

Bigdad's focusing on the second player in an accused "scum buddy" team. No matter what dragoon flips he benefits from voting daywalker instead of dragoon. Makes him look good if dragoon is town and says nothing if he's scum.

I want focus here.


I see. I don't necessarily agree with your logic but I don't want to say more since i'd be giving away how scum should play lol.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:26 GMT
#500
On January 07 2014 08:23 Derrida wrote:
I don't think it's necessarily against his win condition unless Dragoon gets lynched and he turns out to be a townie; he might just be bluffing/baiting. I think an imploding townie act would be a great bait to shift away the focus from a scum teammate.


Let's see your vote.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:29 GMT
#502
Because I haven't seen any commitment to your scum reads at this point.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:38 GMT
#505
Voting is a record. It shows who you wanted to lynch at any current moment in the game very visibly and clearly.

The sheer fact that you don't want to vote prematurely PROVES that voting is commitment.

and remember:

On January 07 2014 06:51 Derrida wrote:

By the way, I would like to re-iterate this point by Balla: "Anyways, since we have a huge timezone gap for some people, we need to consolidate on a few lynch targets TODAY, so that the people who can't be around here for the deadline will be able to hopefully make their votes meaningful. This means I want everyone's votes out on someone by the end of the day, obviously not final." While I do not like the attitude, I do like the idea. When would a tentative deadline be, for example? Oh and Balla, what do you mean by "people like BigDad"?

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:39 GMT
#506
On January 07 2014 08:34 BigDad wrote:
erm, where is TheChyz. He voted a lurker then went afk. What the?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz


it's been 4 hrs...

what kind of fake contribution post is this bigdad?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:49 GMT
#509
On January 07 2014 08:44 BigDad wrote:
I was looking through everyones feeds and saw that, i thought it was notable considering the early (and large) play by him - then the hasty retreat from play with an easy vote on a Lurker. What is your analysis on him so far?


Let's start with your analysis on the current target: theDragoon (there's what... 4 or 5 votes on him atm?)... it's like you're completely avoiding him.

What I think of Chyz atm is irrelevant, I've already hashed out what I think about him multiple times. Plus, he's afk right now.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 23:52 GMT
#510
Actually, sorry, you obviously didn't ignore him as he was your target early on... but i still want to know, what do you think of his play since you re-entered the thread, since there was a LOT of new stuff. You're ignoring the new stuff.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 00:03 GMT
#513
It's fine you still answered how i wanted ^_^ that's my bad anyways..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 00:23 GMT
#516
There was 40 minutes to deadline anyways...

I don't see how you're speeding things up at all, we still would have had to wait your flip anyways. Only way you could have sped it up was by admitting you're mafia

Looking forward to when you get back.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 01:07 GMT
#521
I hardly call that rejuvenated...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 01:17 GMT
#523
i guess i'll wait and see what he says
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 03:34 GMT
#533
Hmmmm... alright i *think* there are 8 votes on dragoon... obviously that's a bit worrisome since there's only 13 players... but I really do think dragoon is scum, and if it wasn't for his recent play i'd be pretty confident in this.

The people who are still NOT voting for him:

Why not?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 06:10 GMT
#547
I can't believe how some of you guys are so confident about how dragoon will flip scum. Suki, Jonny specifically..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 07:24 GMT
#560
On January 07 2014 15:17 LoneMeow wrote:
Day 1 vote count:

Day_Walker (1): TheChyz, BigDad
theDragoon (9): dnyarri, Balla24, onlywonderboy, chinstrap, theDragoon, JonnyLaw, Derrida, suki, sidesprang

Not voting (3): Asuna, Day_Walker, TheChyz

Currently, theDragoon is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Tuesday, Jan 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.


This is the most one sided lynch ever. I'm sorry but this should seriously be making you weary (suki/jonnylaw). The people who are not voting seem to also be tentatively saying that they are ok with the lynch if it were to happen now, besides Day_walker who probably is thinking along the same lines of this tbh.

I'm searching for a new target. I really don't like how hard you lurked today sidesprang, so I'd lynch you just based on that, but other than that, I find Derrida pretty scummy.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 07:32 GMT
#563
Ugh it's just so hard because I totally can see how scum would buss their teammate in this current situation. It's different than other one-sided lynches in the previous games because of how dragoon shut-down. Like I would totally buss him..

If I were scum, I would probably begin to buss him after he self-voted, so i'd look @ Derrida, suki and sidesprang (if im jsut looking at it chronologically, jonnylaw too)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 07:59 GMT
#565
On January 07 2014 15:16 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm more confident in lynching him than other players.

If you want to lynch dnyarri I'm down for that one as well. Otherwise TD stayign at the top of my list. Who do you think should be lynched today then ballaman? Maybe I'm just being lazy. I'll reread the filters.


Dang... dnyarri is lurking like shit..... I wrote them off early I think because I liked the response here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&currentpage=22#426

There's a lot of critical thinking there. But still... so little. Not sure i'd lynch.. gotta think about it. I'm having trouble figuring out what to do which is super weird for me T_T...
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