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On January 06 2014 15:13 theDragoon wrote:
@Balla24
About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious.
Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation.
Your vote IS serious. But I really don't see why you were calling it random at point.... you yourself were already suspicious of him (on my tablet so not gonna quote) . basically what I'm saying is you seem to be down playing the suspicions on him for some reason until you read daywalkers read on him(which just reiterated what everyone else said)
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idk... not necessarily alignment indicative but definately worth noting for the future once people start flipping and relationships start forming
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On January 06 2014 15:30 JonnyLaw wrote:I'll be on tomorrow at a more reasonable time. At this point we have three players who've posted nothing. Fine, we have 30+ hours till day ends. I hate this post and generally everything in Asuna's filter. Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 14:16 Asuna wrote:On January 06 2014 08:38 Balla24 wrote:
Thread is dying fast... need backup ASAP.
I also am not too fond of Asuna's entry, but there's nothing really scummy about it. I just feel you have opportunities to enlighten me about yourself and your opinions but you are hiding behind one liners for some reason. I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages. Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though. Excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt in one line. I'm down to lynch Asuna or OWB at this point. Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided.
I agree with pushing these for a bit at least. OWB seemed to perform better in that first game we played with him when he had some pressure on him. Down to see where this takes us, since right now I'm reading him very neutral.
##unvote
##vote Onlywonderboy
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Well then, who would you lynch at this point? At least 2 people.
There's very little information out at the moment.
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For me... I'm happy to lynch daywalker, dragoon and owb.... maybe asuna.
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Gooood gooood let the hate flow through you... hehe, loving the turn this game took since I climbed in bed.
The people who are here right now: go top 2 lynches.
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ebwop and by that I mean just who are ur top 2
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I did, few posts back right after I asked dragoon.
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@Asuna think about WHY Johnny is doing the things he did. Why did he pressure you and OWB specifically? Its un alignment indicative for jonny BUT look at the reaction he got out of you... just read ur filter before and after he did that, so much more can be said about you now... reactions like that are great for reading people and having material to go off of
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On January 06 2014 16:15 TheChyz wrote:
well, ok... Although you kinda did 3-4 but w/e
I rank owb/dragoon higher then the others ATM, speaking on who I'd like to lynch
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Woah jonny... Take a step back. Didnt you learn from last game about not being abrasively aggrssive like this.. Also...Thats not the reasoning i thouggt you would use at all for justifying writing of chyz either..
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The situation with chyz is super wifomy, circular logic stuff that is better to avoid rather than to dwell on. that's the reasoning I expected you to use... you can't easily come up with a conclusion around it so why bother... until something more conclusive comes up surrounding him he is best left at a neutral read...
why do you dislike his vote on day walker? his reasoning? the omgus?
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On January 06 2014 16:10 theDragoon wrote:
dynarri and Derrida since they've posted nothing so far.
/notserious
why did you dodge twice...
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yeah I had the same problems with that too... going to sleep though... I think ppl have a LOT to talk about so hoping to see lots when I wake up
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Nice, lots of activity. However, there's also a LOT of fluff. Rehashing old topics (particularly derrida) and reasoning etc. Try to make your posts more succint.
@Day_Walker
On January 06 2014 19:32 Day_Walker wrote:
Onlywonderboy because I reread his filter from the scum perspective, and I could see it making sense as scum play.
What do you mean by this? What specifically was your thinking here when you wrote this... I want to see what you came up with "onlywonderboy's" scum perspective...
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EBWOP: Not Derrida, the other one./..dnyaryi or whatever haha
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On January 07 2014 00:43 Day_Walker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 00:05 suki wrote:On January 06 2014 15:49 theDragoon wrote:On January 06 2014 15:30 JonnyLaw wrote:
Excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt in one line.
I'm down to lynch Asuna or OWB at this point.
Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided.
That's enough of a reason to lynch Asuna? I don't see that as good enough to suspect Asuna of being mafia, unless you know more than what you've said there. Those 3 things you listed there is just a sign of an inexperienced player, it has nothing to do with being a scum. Here, Dragoon defends Asuna by hinting that Jonny knows more than what he's said. I think this is a possible scum slip, as only mafia are really ever thinking about hiding information. Hmm. Jonny himself brings up the possibility that he is holding back information, but does so after theDragoon does: Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 16:56 JonnyLaw wrote:
Chyz has 5 real posts. I'm not laying my entire thought process out there unless it's needed to secure a lynch. Why telegraph your hunting for scum to adapt?
His quick daywalker vote is the only part that strikes me as being off.
Hmm.. This one's interesting to me. I'm a big proponent of looking for the presence of information bias or LACK of information bias to make reads. So I don't necessarily think that what thedragoon did was inherently a scum slip. However, in that context I totally do agree with you suki...
He's saying "unless you know more than what you've said there" in regards to lynching Asuna... If jonny was mafia how would he know more about a reason to lynch Asuna at this point? I'd like you to explain that theDragoon.
One more thing that i want to correct: Jonny is clearly speaking about his reads here, whereas theDragoon was speaking about "information bias" about knowing who is town and who is not.
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I'm really not too fond of dnyarri atm..they just came into the thread, found the 2 most suspicious people and rehashed why they are suspicious without saying anything about anything else... It makes this game really hard now because there are so many suspicious people FMPOV, and they are all on similar levels. I can agree with almost every case out there... EVERYBODY is fluffing it up.
So Dnyarri, why do you think dragoon is sketchier than some other people in the game.. what do you think of suki/jonny/me etc etc etc...
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On January 06 2014 22:12 BigDad wrote:
I'm looking to hear from Balla, Suki and see what Jonny makes of my explanations before I finalise my vote in the morning. However my suspicions are still clear in the above posts and I'll probably stick with them rather than jump on a bandwagon.
I've already stated pretty much all of what you said in regards to day_walker/dragoon... as far as Asuna.
Yeah, I agree, totally feasible defensive townie. Only reason I included him in my "would lynch" list is because Jonny was currently pressuring them and I didn't want to undermine that by saying I actually think his reaction was townie... (which I did), so I acted like it wasn't really swaying me.
What I think of dragoon's soft defense of Asuna? It's difficult to come to conclusions about it until dragoon flips, and flips scum... otherwise there's really nothing to glean from it. I do find day_walker's post about it weird, where he lays out the 2 situations seemingly assuming Asuna is town 100%... Why can't it be that they are both scum? At least it fits with his big post where he basically calls everyone town (which in itself is weird... you should be suspicious of everyone early not so easily dismissive of small posts as townie plays)..
Anyways, since we have a huge timezone gap for some people, we need to consolidate on a few lynch targets TODAY, so that the people who can't be around here for the deadline will be able to hopefully make their votes meaningful. This means I want everyone's votes out on someone by the end of the day, obviously not final. My reasoning is, if we aren't doing this, people like BigDad might just put their vote on someone that is completely irrelevant by the end of the day, which is soooooo unhelpful in finding out his alignment.
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Woah woah what... Daywalker: wow, some really good reads by this guy. Certainly gave me a lot of insight and I can clearly follow his line of thinking and argumentation, no bullshit so far. Still, I might be susceptible to manipulation due to my inexperience. Alert level: GREEN
Are you serious with this? He literally just sheeped on everybody, especially in his first post...
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