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TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 07 2014 09:35 GMT
#581
The only problem I have with an dnyarri vote is that it won't really tell us much apart from what HIS alignment is, however somebody else as a lynch (like Dragoon for example), will help us gain some information on other players regardless of alignment.
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 07 2014 09:36 GMT
#582
Albeit reluctantly I'm liking Day_Walker's stance on lurkers. It's obvious that only Mafia and Serial Killers benefit from lurkers. I've re-read his filter and am now having doubts about stance on him. Day_Walker has started contributing more in the content of his posts than when I made my first accusations. In this post he highlights the benefits for the group of targeting an obvious, yet relatively untouched group of people who have contributed a grand total of essentially nothing. We stand to lose nothing, yet potentially gain from challenging them out of their silence.

My reads for suspicious player currently stand against Dnyarri and theDragoon with less doubt on Day_Walker for his pro-town stance on lynching those who aren't contributing.

##Unvote: Day_Walker
(Explanation above; also, I don't want to waste a vote on him if we decide to kill of the Anti-Town lurkers or that theDragoon is scummy.)
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:39 GMT
#583
On January 07 2014 18:35 TheChyz wrote:
The only problem I have with an dnyarri vote is that it won't really tell us much apart from what HIS alignment is, however somebody else as a lynch (like Dragoon for example), will help us gain some information on other players regardless of alignment.


that's a trade off we have to take if we decide to policy lynch
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 07 2014 09:41 GMT
#584
Balla, I'm not accusing you of anything. You could be scum but I don't care today. You'll be active enough I can find out.

I really want to know if you want to lynch lurkers. I'm no topposed because you know that feeling the next day when it seems to late to start lynching lurkers?

Yeah, I hate it.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:41 GMT
#585
@bigdad Mafia also benefits from lurkers in the fact that it gives them a super easy target to push to a mislynch, don't forget that... I did it in my first game as scum in fact.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 07 2014 09:41 GMT
#586
Sorry my grammar is awful. Had a ncaa fb party.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:45 GMT
#587
On January 07 2014 18:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla, I'm not accusing you of anything. You could be scum but I don't care today. You'll be active enough I can find out.

I really want to know if you want to lynch lurkers. I'm no topposed because you know that feeling the next day when it seems to late to start lynching lurkers?

Yeah, I hate it.


well whole reason I'm taking my time is because you told me to sleep on it... but yeah I am growing more worried about running out of time too which is leading me to stand firm on lynching someone active... we'll learn more about ppl and that's the way I like to play the game, with relationships
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 07 2014 09:46 GMT
#588
That's what I've always said in the newb games as well. It worked. We caught the lurkers later.
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 07 2014 09:46 GMT
#589
Im just reading over theDragoon's defence post.

My initial thoughts on this long awaited post is that still reads like a Knee-Jerk post. Of course in a defence post he is going to sound defensive however he almost goes on the offence against some people.. who exactly? He targets some of the most recent people to vote for him, plus myself who initially doubted him and the person i thought he was sympathizing with.

I need to mull on this post for a while. I can't decide if its in our best interest to follow the potential bandwagon or go for the lurkers.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:47 GMT
#590
Johnny can you answer the q I asked at the bottomish of last PG pls? Mafia in vote q..
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 07 2014 09:48 GMT
#591
On January 07 2014 18:41 Balla24 wrote:
@bigdad Mafia also benefits from lurkers in the fact that it gives them a super easy target to push to a mislynch, don't forget that... I did it in my first game as scum in fact.


Yeah, its bad if we mislynch a town lurker that doesn't post - but it could potentially be worse if we mislynch an active town.

Eugh, im so confused.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:50 GMT
#592
On January 07 2014 18:46 JonnyLaw wrote:
That's what I've always said in the newb games as well. It worked. We caught the lurkers later.
you have certainly taught me well.

these lurkers aren't even half as bad as we had in that first game either... I guess I shouldn't be worried about it... especially since sidesprang is definitely making enough of a contribution to read him
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 09:56 GMT
#593
the question I'm reffering to

On January 07 2014 17:51 Balla24 wrote:
so you agree that there's mafia in the current vote right?


LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
January 07 2014 10:06 GMT
#594
Day 1 vote count:

Balla24 (0): chinstrap
TheChyz (0): chinstrap, suki, theDragoon, dnyarri
JonnyLaw (0): Balla24
Day_Walker (0): TheChyz, BigDad
onlywonderboy (0): Balla24, theDragoon
theDragoon (9): dnyarri, Balla24, onlywonderboy, chinstrap, theDragoon, JonnyLaw, Derrida, suki, sidesprang
BigDad (0): suki
dnyarri (1): TheChyz, Day_Walker

Not voting (3): Asuna, TheChyz, BigDad

Currently, theDragoon is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Tuesday, Jan 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 07 2014 10:18 GMT
#595
Morning all, you guys were pretty active while I slept.

Here are my initial replies and reactions after reading filters of everyone once again:

@Dragoon:

@Derrida

Voting for me without any explanation? You flagged me as yellow earlier and even brought up the possibility of me being a bad player then going straight for me because everyone else is. I get trying to get rid of bad players but the goal of the game is to eliminate mafia through lynching or character powers.


You come at me for "voting without any explanation" even though I did provide the causality behind my vote: "leaped from an /offtopic discussion to an /ontopic demagogy by your 'You will all see when I get lynched tomorrow that this "distancing theory' is completely dumbfounded" line" and "I've already stated my top two scum candidates in my list, that alone is commitment enough. Although I have to say that the option to lynch an imploding townie or an imploding townie acting scum seems like a win-win situation to me."

Note sure how I can explain any more than that? The self-vote and then the 180 degree reversal to shift the gaze on Suki, BigDad, myself, and DW does not have any credibility in my eyes. I still see your lynch as a win-win situation this morning, with the possible further upside of providing further information on Suki if you flip townie (who was RED ALERT status on my initial list).

So the main reason why I think he's scum is because he just jumped on me, providing no reason then leaving the game to sleep. He doesn't give us time to question his decision.


Well excuse me (not really) for jumping on you when you self-destruct or just play that card. I'm not sure how jumping on you may be interpreted as a sign of anything, I would prefer to not play with people that constantly exercise demagoguery (earlier comments on RL mafia being different, you being inexperienced etc.) and who vote for themselves. It was 2 AM when I was pressured by Balla to vote, and I decided not to derail further as I was going to sleep soon. I'm here right now until voting deadline to answer any other questions and/or clarify further if you wish.

@Balla,
I find Derrida pretty scummy.


Eh, care to expand?

-----

On a side note, Sidesprang's filter is stil ringing all kinds of alarm bells for me. AFK for 24+ hours, comes in to vote Dragoon with a justification similar to mine, then just pokes at Dragoon some wishy-washy questions that do not contribute anything to the discussion. If Dragoon is lynched and turns out Mafia, I would bet my house on Sidesprang to be Mafia as well, dat bus.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 10:30 GMT
#596
I had a lot of problems with your entry, which you can and should reread on pg20 since there is 1 or 2 posts I made that we forgot about in our discussion... and i also found it really annoying that you were saving your vote for no reason, let me reread what else I was thinking in regards to you.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 07 2014 10:33 GMT
#597
@Anyone online, what do you think about Asuna, TheChyz, and BigDad not having an active vote?
#1 Grubby Fan.
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 07 2014 10:34 GMT
#598
@Derrida, i literally just unvoted him. Explanation is my most recent post
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 07 2014 10:35 GMT
#599
Gah, time zones suck. I wish I could discuss with you Derrida but I'm falling asleep TT...
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 07 2014 10:36 GMT
#600
Sweet dreams, will you wake up before the vote deadline or is your vote final?
#1 Grubby Fan.
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