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On January 12 2014 04:03 TheChyz wrote:
And Balla, thats a bullshit reason not to make your post. You said "Day 3 is going to be fun if what i'm thinking is happening. Will post about it later" and since you keep pestering others to explain their thoughts, I expect you to do the same.
NO fuck that that's so scummy. It's pretty obvious what I had to say was due to night actions. You're pretty silly if you can't see that. So why would I post it 3 HOURS before the night is over and let mafia plan around that.
MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH: Why are you pushing me so hard for it? I'm clearly active. This is SO fricking scummy from you Chyz. Do you need it to make a decision on what to do with your scum buddy?
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On January 12 2014 04:06 dnyarri wrote:@Balla I'm having problem understanding your first questions last part: Show nested quote +Who is your backup scum pick for each team in the case that you think it makes them NOT a scumteam? IE, Day_walker + ___ and BigDad + _______ Could you clarify your question?
Sure. I'm ASSUMING that your scum reads now that OWB has flipped are Day_walker and BigDad (correct me if I'm wrong) based on what you have said. The question revolves around the first sentence of that bullet-
"BigDad pushed for a Day_Walker lynch on D1...."
To me this indicates that Day_Walker is not scum with BigDad. I'm asking if you agree. If you DO agree, then who is your OTHER scum pick for each team consisting of your two scum reads?
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On January 12 2014 04:09 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:01 Balla24 wrote:
Note: "I'm not comfortable lynching him" does not mean "I don't feel scummy on him" you very clearly felt scummy on him D1. I feel you are really bad at reading my posts. I state the reason for me doing that analysis is that he was one of the two possible lynch candidates at that time. And since I was going out and would not be there for the last hours I felt I should atleast look into them both. I said it could be possible that he was scum, but mostly if theDragoon also was scum. But I also said I felt that theory was very circumstantial. So how you get that post to be "you very clearly felt scummy on him D1" I dont even know....
Good answer. Sorry if I misread or whatever but the activity level is abysmal atm. I don't want to leave the thread in a state like this if I die. So i'm pushing all the people who are possibly scum:
It's very clear that you are not ALL scum, but the way you guys are playing are making it very hard to narrow it down. As you can see I can easily find things to poke at for everyone, which not only makes it easy for scum to do so as well but thats what makes it so hard for town to narrow it down.
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On January 12 2014 04:22 TheChyz wrote:
@Balla
What is so scummy about it, your doing the exact same thing from everybody else and forcing them to explain things, what makes you such a special case that whenever you say something we should just let you pass cause your active? Jonny (i think) said that you are active both scum and town so I find no reason why you felt that posting that you will post your thoughts later and then now not wanting to is scummy from me. Seems like your being very defensive. And you don't have to post now, just before night ends (even if its 1 sec before)
Are you not paying attention? I'm confirmed vig AKA town, I shot derrida last night.
It's scummy because you're pushing me for information that will help scum determine their night actions. Simple as that.
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On January 12 2014 04:30 dnyarri wrote:
@Balla
Ok that certainly clarified. Your question. Currently I suspect BigDad most, but I'm not sure who would be second most suspicious. Since onlywonderboy turned out to be townie, I'm suspecting sidesprang again. sidesprang's filter has only one mention of BigDad. sidesprang said they would look into BigDad but hasn't said anything yet. I'm somewhat suspicious of Day_Walker, but Day_Walker doesn't seem very probable scum buddy for BigDad.
So quick analysis tells me that BigDad and sidesprang might be in scum team.
I'll look through some filters and give you more detailed answer and anwer the other question. Meanwhile, I'll ask question of my own. I need to learn more about sidesprang.
@sidesprang
What is your read on BigDad? Who would be his scum buddy if he was scum?
Day_Walker doesn't seem probable scum buddy with BigDad yes. But just because he's not BigDad's scum buddy does not mean he's not scum. This is why I asked it from both ways. Who would Day_Walker's partner be? Why?
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On January 12 2014 03:14 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 07:06 TheChyz wrote:
Gotta go for a few hours, will be back afterwards. This vote kinda sucks but I think there is quite a wealth of information that can be garnered from it. What info can be garnered from it? Want your analysis before night ends!
Chyz you skipped this too.
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Here are my reads in case I'm dead in a few minutes:
Dnyarri - Town: Was pushed by almost anybody. Once was threatened to be lynch started actually being really helpful, especially on n2. Just poke this guy a lot if you need him to be active and it looks like he will be.
Suki - Town: Some may disagree with this but I've been considering her confirmed town for her interactions with Derrida on N1. She was seriously gonna push him 100% genuine case on him. If there turns out to be an SK, you may want to reconsider.
TheChyz - Scummy: I was town reading him on day 1 and for the most part of day2... but his play recently is really questionable. This is one person where a Dnyarri pair with him kind of makes sense so look out for that. Seems unlikely but still a possibility IMO.
BigDad - Scummy: Doesn't defend himself against any accusations and just calls it wrong without even giving it a second thought. AFK all of the important time during day2 after leaving his vote on Dnyarri. Barely responds to anything. Could be just frustrated that we didn't lynch dnyarri twice in a row though.
sidesprang - Neutral/Scummy: Even though I had issue with his d2, I like how he responds to all my pressure. Seems relatively townie other than that. Only thing I have a problem with him is that he doesn't give his opinions on everybody, only his target and people. Be VERY weary of a day_walker/sidesprang team.
Day_walker- SCUMMY: Where is this guy?? Don't have much to say off the top of my head except he's scummy.
I think that's everybody. Hopefully I don't die and I can elaborate a bit on some things.
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GG, sorry for my poor performance. Feel really bad about this game tbh.
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Well played Suki, not sure I would have been able to read you had I not died... your n1 was really good though. After I died though I knew instantly after Chyz did his weird "roleclaim" play... you went along with it for some reason im surprised nobody caught that .
EDIT: Thanks a lot for hosting LoneMeow and also to the coaches! Onto the big leagues :D
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She said he was town because of his analysis and then went for it anyways.
EDIT: Not his analysis, HER analysis, called him his last play a bad town play.
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My coaching QT with Bumatlarge btw:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/knfcKBg5R7AaV
I felt really bad about my d1 and d2 reads, but really good about my activity and obviously I shot a scum which is awesome. I guess i'm one of those slow starters  but throughout the rest of the game after I died my reads obviously got better since I pegged you guys right after suki made her "chyz is town" spiel. Town was really in a bad shape after I died, I'm wondering if I was a little too active and demotivated a lot of them? Unfortunately we let them lurk after I died, which just made it so easy for THEM to push the lurkers. Day_walker was a REALLY REALLY easy lynch.
Sidesprang specifically you should have been able to see that Day_walker was not the right lynch, since your other choices for scum were on him.
Also I'm really surprised that we didn't switch off of OWB, that's something I felt I did really wrong and didn't defend him enough. It was clearly not the right lynch, along with dnyarri. But I didn't have the power to force a switch, not to mention the AFKness of the town at that point, but it wasn't obvious that it was a bad lynch until 1 or 2 hours to go till deadline.
Oh and another thing!!!! If you're confirmed town do not announce you're going to be gone for a few days, even though mafia already wanted to NK me based on their QT, it just made their choice SO easy. The easiest thing ever. Well chinstrap just said he would be afk for a few days so no reason to worry about him lets kill the other confirmed town. Gah.
Salty bout dat almost 3/3 wins T_T
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On January 17 2014 07:42 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +He obviously refuses to get modkilled by continuing to play the game. That in itself is a scumtell, but whatever doesn't matter. This is not true. As either alignment, if you can not be replaced but are busy you play the best you can. Strategic modkills are explicitly disallowed in the rules.
Hey that was me! Mostly an emotional post tbh. I was annoyed at the level of activity from some players specifically. At that point i thought Dnyarri was scummy for his content but NOT scummy for the way the game was going so I was really in a tough spot with him, especially considering he hadn't stepped up his game yet (WHICH HE DID!). After d2 though Dnyarri was much better, just not enough to get over the hump. He was pretty clearly town though.
On January 17 2014 07:38 suki wrote:
I was really hoping I could fool the obsQT up until this final day. =]
Also I signed up for that shadow mafia thing cuz I saw you (Balla) and Jonny are in it.. But in the meantime are either of you playing in another game?
I'm just playing Voice mafia every once in a while, while waiting for the Shadow mafia game to get going ^_^. If there's another mini that pops up before the shadower game gets going (which won't be for a while) i'll join that so keep an eye out.
Otherwise definitely hop in voice! It's fun and not as stressful since we play smaller games that go a lot faster and often play silly setups!
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On January 17 2014 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
Disregarding everything else in the game, BigDad should have been lynched simply for his totally unnatural read(s) on dinyarri.
A townie simply does not look at dinyarri this way, the way the game went down.
Don't really know about anything else.
Also how he interacted with his town reads! He consistently asked his town reads for confirmation on his cases instead of asking his case target stuff. Luckily, Suki did a good job deflecting the lynch off him many times ^_^
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On January 17 2014 07:56 suki wrote:
@Balla : I don't think I could do voice mafia :> The only reason I can maintain my composure in these mafia games is because I have 2 hours to think on everything I say before I say it.
I'd be the most obvious scum in the world if I had to react to everything live.
So am I!!! Just ask rayn lol... It's a good place to improve since it's so fast paced!
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OH AND KUSH IS SUCH A GOOD COACH! WOW!!!
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On January 17 2014 08:02 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 07:59 Balla24 wrote:On January 17 2014 07:56 suki wrote:
@Balla : I don't think I could do voice mafia :> The only reason I can maintain my composure in these mafia games is because I have 2 hours to think on everything I say before I say it.
I'd be the most obvious scum in the world if I had to react to everything live. So am I!!! Just ask rayn lol... It's a good place to improve since it's so fast paced! It's a completely different game, though, so it doesn't teach much about forum play (disclaimer: I haven't played with the TL crowd).
Ehh... I kinda disagree. It 100% helps overall mafia skills, and DEFINITELY helps for fast paced style forum play that is very popular on this forum.
Plus we play with a similar setup style to how the forum is played, where you have flips and the voting style etc. The only thing that is super different is you can base a lot of your reads on voice tells.
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