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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:56 GMT
#1078
Vote count pls Meow! ^_^
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:58 GMT
#1080
Cool. This turned out well I think.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:59 GMT
#1083
OWB flipping is going to be good for us regardless.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 22:00 GMT
#1084
We gain a lot of info here.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 22:03 GMT
#1087
Day 3 is going to be fun if what i'm thinking is happening. Will post about it later.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 01:24 GMT
#1094
No BigDad. It's not because he's the "less scummy option". Literally everyone wanted to lynch him, all my scum reads. OWB, You, Day_walker, Sidesprang... that makes him not scum.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 01:27 GMT
#1095
WITH THAT SAID. Sidesprang and Dnyarri scumteam is still possible in my opinion, and yesterday's events puts them in a great position if they are a team because evidence points away from that team. I'm wrestling with a few ideas in my head and i'll post them when I get time.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 03:04 GMT
#1097
^ Yep.

I'm super frustrated because it seems like all the townies in the pool of players that I deem possibly scum ARE NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME. I can't do much with the info you guys are giving me. The last hour of the day was the only time where we had anything going. That was a terrible day on the part of this town. Good thing there's leeway with Derrida's death.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 17:58 GMT
#1099
@BigDad... i don't care if you still think dnyarri is mafia. You're tunneling like a mad man. If dnyarri is so mafia, who is his second mafia?

If you say Chyz...

-How do you justify their interactions with each other on Day1 (they attacked each other's arguments and cross voted each other in an OMGUS style early on)?
-And how do you justify Chyz and Derrida's interactions on day1? (I'll admit when I re-look, I probably jumped the gun on this one)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:01 GMT
#1100
(note that I'm not saying it's not possible... I just want to see you do some work)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:10 GMT
#1101
@TheChyz

Your top scumreads atm are ?????... you seemed to have also tunneled on Dnyarri and OWB yesterday. Towards the end of the day you seemed convinced by me that OWB was going to flip town... why?

Why was DW not a target for you on D2 at all? You seemingly went from super scummy n1 on him to NULL on day 2? What happened?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:14 GMT
#1102
On January 11 2014 07:06 TheChyz wrote:
Gotta go for a few hours, will be back afterwards. This vote kinda sucks but I think there is quite a wealth of information that can be garnered from it.


What info can be garnered from it? Want your analysis before night ends!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:22 GMT
#1103
On January 09 2014 22:21 sidesprang wrote:
K, thanks. Then we should be in a very good position imo.

I'm trying to read into Derrida's filter, and I think Day_Walker also comes out more town from it. I doubt a he would buddy up like he did in the first post if Day_Walker was scum. I think it would be more an attempt to pocket him than anything else.


@Sidesprang
How is this good logic for saying Day_walker comes out more town from it? It's terrible logic actually. You have no idea if he would buddy up like that or not. None whatsoever. I think it's VERY likely he buddied up to one of his teammates and started bussing the other (while not pushing too hard).

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:36 GMT
#1104
On January 11 2014 04:07 Day_Walker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 03:49 dnyarri wrote:
About his comment on death of JonnyLaw, BigDad said this:

<quote>
He facilitated discussion through his aggressive play. Day one for JonnyLaw was pretty full on, check it out. He went after TheChyz, theDragoon, BigDad, Asuna and OWB.
</quote>

I looked at JonnyLaw's filter and it's clear that JonnyLaw was actively going after BigDad too until theDragoon and later I got all the attention. Yet BigDad didn't mention that. Did he try to hide the fact that he was suspicious too? I would have expected "transparency" from BigDad since he was supposedly promoting it. JonnyLaw's death is easily explained if BigDad is scum.


BigDad did mention it?


Why is this your last post in the thread till lynch. There was a large amount of time till lynch time, we were actively having a conversation. We were curious about your real thoughts on BigDad since you semeed to have considered him as scum, wrote him off for some unknown reason to us. Proceeded to soft-defend him and then disappear.

For some reason you were wrestling with a dnyarri lynch versus BigDad/OWB and then as soon as you switch to OWB you disappear? That's weird. Very weird. It seemed like it was such a tough choice for you, why did you not follow up??
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:43 GMT
#1106
On January 12 2014 03:37 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:22 Balla24 wrote:
On January 09 2014 22:21 sidesprang wrote:
K, thanks. Then we should be in a very good position imo.

I'm trying to read into Derrida's filter, and I think Day_Walker also comes out more town from it. I doubt a he would buddy up like he did in the first post if Day_Walker was scum. I think it would be more an attempt to pocket him than anything else.


@Sidesprang
How is this good logic for saying Day_walker comes out more town from it? It's terrible logic actually. You have no idea if he would buddy up like that or not. None whatsoever. I think it's VERY likely he buddied up to one of his teammates and started bussing the other (while not pushing too hard).



@Balla

And I do not think it's likely. And your logic about this point is very bad. Your point against me is that I have no idea if he would buddy up or not. But you know what you dont either. It's all speculation at this point anyhow, but I think it's less likely that he would do that to a scumbuddy than not. simple as that.


My problem is that you seemingly used it to write Day_walker off. You posted this about Day_walker the night before

On January 08 2014 03:20 sidesprang wrote:


Day_Walker

When I read his filter I see a possibility for him being scum, however I think its way more likely for him to be scum if theDragoon is scum.

I feel he gave him a weak townread in the start with his list. And when BigDad says he find Day_Walker and theDragon both became overly defensive about it.

And also as chinstrap pointed out making a scumcase for the lurkers and a towncase for theDragoon, is something that very well can be done as scum regardless of theDragoon's allignment. And the more I think about it, I think it's more likely to be done if he is scum.

If he makes a case for theDragoon is town then if he flips town he gets cred. If he flips scum then he tried to save his buddy.

I do however feel this is very circumstantial and I would not feel comfortable lynching him, but this is what I read when I tried to view him as scum.



So for me, saying that Derrida marked him as town is the ONLY reasoning I see for you giving Day_walker a pass on day2. Is there more that you didn't post?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:48 GMT
#1107
For @Dnyarri:

Now that OWB has flipped town... I can assume that your targets are Day_Walker and BigDad.

- BigDad pushed for a Day_Walker lynch on D1. What do you make of this? Who is your backup scum pick for each team in the case that you think it makes them NOT a scumteam? IE, Day_walker + ___ and BigDad + _______

- Can you reiterate why Day_Walker was NOT a better lynch than OWB?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:56 GMT
#1109
That's not what I meant about OWB: I meant you seemed convinced by me that OWB was going to flip town. You were very antsy to find a different target. Why? What was it that made you not happy with the lynch PRE-FLIP.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 18:57 GMT
#1110
Also: there's 3 hours left, if I were going to post it I would have plenty of time to post it. I lost faith in the theory anyways.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 19:00 GMT
#1112
On January 12 2014 03:59 sidesprang wrote:
After reading that post did you expect me to go after Day_Walker?

D1 after doing some analysis -> I'm not comfortable lynching him.
D2 getting townread from flipped scum -> less inclined to lynch him.



No but I didn't expect you to completely give him a free pass because it's definitely NOT enough to give him a free pass for it.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 11 2014 19:01 GMT
#1114
Note: "I'm not comfortable lynching him" does not mean "I don't feel scummy on him" you very clearly felt scummy on him D1.
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