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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:02 GMT
#1036
Need answers. Lynching scum depends on it.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:05 GMT
#1038
No because this time I am specifically asking them questions and for some reason they are not here.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:12 GMT
#1039
This is what happens when we spend the beginning of the day discussing the lurker and nothing else. Scum gets to lurk themselves because everybody wants to kill the lurker.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:21 GMT
#1042
Ok:

Here are my possible scumpairs at this very moment:

1. BigDad/OWB
2. BigDad/Day_Walker
3. Sidesprang/Dnyarri
4. Sidesprang/OWB

I townread OWB for his recent post, but overall his D2 was pretty lackluster. His soft defenses of derrida and sidesprang were pretty bad. What bothers me is nobody is coming to his defense. Sidesprang and Bigdad are both afk, the people I think he is scum with. I had day_walker/owb as a high priorty scumpair, but bussing your teammate when it's 8 to 2 is a pretty bad idea since it gives us even MORE mislynches which will just make this game so easy.

If we are hitting scum right now in OWB: why is nobody coming to his defense? If we properly lynch today it's essentially game over for scum.




Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:24 GMT
#1045
On January 11 2014 01:21 sidesprang wrote:
I've actually been looking into OWB the last hour. I really dislike the lack of activity atm, and its making me paranoid.

I also took note of the post you are refering to, and find it somewhat wierd. Tho my thoughts where more that why would he say those things about Derrida if town allready moved past ? Unless he knew derrida was scum and he went overly defensive about it.

I read up on a few of his old games:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=onlywonderboy&currentpage=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766&user=onlywonderboy

I do feel his scumgame resembles this game more than his towngame. Tho I might just see what I want to see, so if someone else can also take a look at it, that would be nice. Also you played with him before Balla could you give some more insight since you were in those games.

I feel he is more passive and talks about non reads stuff in his scum game, which I also feel he has been doing to some extent here. And in his town game he seems to be tring a lot more to find scum.

Also if you check his profile you can see he is active here on TL.net. So why is he not posting more ?


Sidesprang. You had this to say about OWB. Yet now you don't want to lynch him? Who do you think is scum with dnyarri if you think dnyarri is so scummy?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:41 GMT
#1051
Sidesprang has these posts about Dnyarri:

On January 07 2014 21:55 sidesprang wrote:
Regarding dnyarri i'm not sold on him being mafia, and not on him being a better lynch either. His first two post were questionable at best, but his third one I really liked.

There are only two reasons to lynch a lurker as I see it.

1. There are no clear active mafia candidate
2. You will never be able to read the lurker.

I think when he posts some more we will be able to get a read on him, its not like he is posting one liners.



On January 09 2014 00:07 sidesprang wrote:
Hmm, so trying to read into the stuff that happend after I left yesterday and up to the vote.

It might just be because I know now that theDragoon is town. But his posts in the end is actually a really good and convincing defence. Like I dont think he would have done that as scum. And I would say atleast johnny and OWB are more town for doing that voteswitch.

Reason being:

If we actually lynched dnyarri and he came up town, they kinda stuck their neck out for nothing. The way they changed vote without any explanation and kinda out of the blue would have been hard to explain. Especially with a green lynch on their vote swap. I don't think scum would have taken that risk.


On the other hand, seeing how it went down. I can't fault others for not following, especially since I can only now read theDragoons post while knowing he is town. Its a bit hard for me to judge how much towny he looked before the vote.


I think we should spend some more energy on looking at the votes. I'll try to see if I can find something. And we also need to get dynarri to talk more. Atm he is the only one that is not contributing enough to be able to read properly. I thought / hoped he would be more active than this.


So Dnyarri: What are your current reads, and what do you think about the vote swaps onto you yesterday?


Then after day2 starts and our policy lynch bandwagon starts on him he votes him, sudden change of opinion even though dnyarri didn't say anything to THIS:

On January 09 2014 22:21 sidesprang wrote:
K, thanks. Then we should be in a very good position imo.

I'm trying to read into Derrida's filter, and I think Day_Walker also comes out more town from it. I doubt a he would buddy up like he did in the first post if Day_Walker was scum. I think it would be more an attempt to pocket him than anything else.

Also when reading Derrida's first post, he fails to mention both Asuna and Dnyarri. I have only read up on Dnyarri atm, but I really can not understand how you can fail to mention Dnyarri in a list like he made. He had only posted two post by that time.

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On January 06 2014 20:05 dnyarri wrote:
I think TheChyz is suspicious. First he says (s)he wants so lynch lurkers anyway. When people started to suspect him/her (s)he said that (s)he did it on purpose to catch bandwagoners. Bandwagons however give lurkers easy targets which seems contradicts his/her original agenda of lynching lurkers.

Also, TheChyz has only brought confusion and only potentially useful analysis (s)he has brought to table is against Day_Walker who was attacking TheChyz with the list. It appears more like TheChyz is trying to save his/her skin. Though I think Day_Walker is suspicious because of the list, I find TheChyz more suspicious and I don't believe that as a scum Day_Walker would attack another scums this early.

##Vote: TheChyz


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On January 06 2014 23:43 dnyarri wrote:
Actually I have changed my primary target of suspicion from TheChyz to TheDragoon mainly because of this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&currentpage=16#316

TheDragoon stated that Day_Walker seemed like innocent even though Day_Walker had only posted one list and nothing else. Day_Walker's only vote is against TheChyz which doesn't mean much since TheChyz is easy bandwagoning target. TheDragoon's post give me the impression that he wants to slow voting down by defending (random) people while going to TheChyz-bandwagon and attacking nobody else.

TheChyz is confusing but I'm not sure if it's carelessness or risk taking. My logic for calling him scum was somewhat faulted too I think.

##unvote
##vote: TheDragoon


In two posts, Dnyari votes for two different people. And his posts looks rather fishy to me. With posts like those two how can you not mention Dnyarri in a list like that. Unless you had a reason not to.

That coupled with derrida trying to prevent us from lynching lurkers, and in essence to save dnyarri makes me believe there is a high chance dnyarri is scum.

##Vote Dnyarri


"His posts look rather fishy" to you? Why weren't they fishy before? I don't get that. YOU ALSO tried to prevent us from lynching lurkers in the first post i quoted, yet you point out that derrida was also trying to prevent us to not lynch lurkers.

Also, this post here:

On January 09 2014 20:40 sidesprang wrote:
I think Balla just assumed the roleblocker had to be mafia, but town can have one aswell. So that should not make you confirmed.

But atleast, If there are a town roleblocker I think you should roleblock Asuna again just on the odd chance he is SK.


Is super fishy to me. Of course I assume the roleblocker is mafia. Asuna wasn't giving out any super scummy feeling, I don't see why a town RB'er would RB Asuna first off. And secondly, I was fishing for scum RB target claims. No town RB has claimed it yet so I'm still assuming that. I understand that there is the possibility of a town RB keeping it under wraps and that is fine.

Sidesprang trying to keep the fact that it could be a town RB out there is really weird to me.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:42 GMT
#1052
On January 11 2014 06:35 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 06:24 Balla24 wrote:
On January 11 2014 01:21 sidesprang wrote:
I've actually been looking into OWB the last hour. I really dislike the lack of activity atm, and its making me paranoid.

I also took note of the post you are refering to, and find it somewhat wierd. Tho my thoughts where more that why would he say those things about Derrida if town allready moved past ? Unless he knew derrida was scum and he went overly defensive about it.

I read up on a few of his old games:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=onlywonderboy&currentpage=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766&user=onlywonderboy

I do feel his scumgame resembles this game more than his towngame. Tho I might just see what I want to see, so if someone else can also take a look at it, that would be nice. Also you played with him before Balla could you give some more insight since you were in those games.

I feel he is more passive and talks about non reads stuff in his scum game, which I also feel he has been doing to some extent here. And in his town game he seems to be tring a lot more to find scum.

Also if you check his profile you can see he is active here on TL.net. So why is he not posting more ?


Sidesprang. You had this to say about OWB. Yet now you don't want to lynch him? Who do you think is scum with dnyarri if you think dnyarri is so scummy?
¨

Because I think its more likely that dnyarri is scum ?

I posted what I did because I was unsure about OWB, and wanted more input. And also wanted to provide the things I found to the town. As then others might see something I don't.

Atm I think its more likely and more rewarding to lynch dynarri. I see no strong cases for OWB, and feel we might just go away from dynarri because it felt to easy. So I would rather stick with my original read.
Then please explain why you flip flopped on dnyarri from D1 to D2.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#1054
A note on my town RB point. If there was a town RB there should have been 2 RB claims. One from scum and one from town. If you are town RB and you DID RB asuna then that means you pretty much have a confirmed SK.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:45 GMT
#1055
On January 11 2014 06:44 Asuna wrote:
Hmm, well OWB it is o.o

##Vote: onlywonderboy


No STOP please think critically. Biggest bullshit vote ever.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:46 GMT
#1057
That's really sketchy.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:46 GMT
#1058
Chyz, 5 sec feelings on sidesprang?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:47 GMT
#1060
Lightning posting guys we need it.. only 13 minutes left and we might be mislynching here.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:48 GMT
#1062
I think sidesprang has a larger chance to flip scum than OWB at this point.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:48 GMT
#1064
eh i dunno
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:49 GMT
#1066
On January 11 2014 06:48 TheChyz wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Asuna

No reasoning, lurking until deadline, probably hoping to just live till next day.


This is terrible. Asuna is confirmed town until a town RB unconfirms her.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:52 GMT
#1067
Derrida's interactions with sidesprang is the only thing that makes me worried.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:54 GMT
#1071
BigDad is probably more likely too.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:54 GMT
#1072
On January 11 2014 06:53 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 06:52 Balla24 wrote:
Derrida's interactions with sidesprang is the only thing that makes me worried.


Because he said "i felt scummy" ? And for some reason I never found that attack worth defending ?


No dude that was a positive point for you...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:55 GMT
#1073
Sidesprang would u lynch bigdad?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 10 2014 21:55 GMT
#1075
Im saying thats the only reason I wouldn't lynch you..
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