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On January 11 2014 01:21 sidesprang wrote:
I've actually been looking into OWB the last hour. I really dislike the lack of activity atm, and its making me paranoid.

I also took note of the post you are refering to, and find it somewhat wierd. Tho my thoughts where more that why would he say those things about Derrida if town allready moved past ? Unless he knew derrida was scum and he went overly defensive about it.

I read up on a few of his old games:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=onlywonderboy&currentpage=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766&user=onlywonderboy

I do feel his scumgame resembles this game more than his towngame. Tho I might just see what I want to see, so if someone else can also take a look at it, that would be nice. Also you played with him before Balla could you give some more insight since you were in those games.

I feel he is more passive and talks about non reads stuff in his scum game, which I also feel he has been doing to some extent here. And in his town game he seems to be tring a lot more to find scum.

Also if you check his profile you can see he is active here on TL.net. So why is he not posting more ?

On January 07 2014 21:55 sidesprang wrote:
Regarding dnyarri i'm not sold on him being mafia, and not on him being a better lynch either. His first two post were questionable at best, but his third one I really liked.

There are only two reasons to lynch a lurker as I see it.

1. There are no clear active mafia candidate
2. You will never be able to read the lurker.

I think when he posts some more we will be able to get a read on him, its not like he is posting one liners.

On January 09 2014 00:07 sidesprang wrote:
Hmm, so trying to read into the stuff that happend after I left yesterday and up to the vote.

It might just be because I know now that theDragoon is town. But his posts in the end is actually a really good and convincing defence. Like I dont think he would have done that as scum. And I would say atleast johnny and OWB are more town for doing that voteswitch.

Reason being:

If we actually lynched dnyarri and he came up town, they kinda stuck their neck out for nothing. The way they changed vote without any explanation and kinda out of the blue would have been hard to explain. Especially with a green lynch on their vote swap. I don't think scum would have taken that risk.


On the other hand, seeing how it went down. I can't fault others for not following, especially since I can only now read theDragoons post while knowing he is town. Its a bit hard for me to judge how much towny he looked before the vote.


I think we should spend some more energy on looking at the votes. I'll try to see if I can find something. And we also need to get dynarri to talk more. Atm he is the only one that is not contributing enough to be able to read properly. I thought / hoped he would be more active than this.


So Dnyarri: What are your current reads, and what do you think about the vote swaps onto you yesterday?

On January 09 2014 22:21 sidesprang wrote:
K, thanks. Then we should be in a very good position imo.

I'm trying to read into Derrida's filter, and I think Day_Walker also comes out more town from it. I doubt a he would buddy up like he did in the first post if Day_Walker was scum. I think it would be more an attempt to pocket him than anything else.

Also when reading Derrida's first post, he fails to mention both Asuna and Dnyarri. I have only read up on Dnyarri atm, but I really can not understand how you can fail to mention Dnyarri in a list like he made. He had only posted two post by that time.

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In two posts, Dnyari votes for two different people. And his posts looks rather fishy to me. With posts like those two how can you not mention Dnyarri in a list like that. Unless you had a reason not to.

That coupled with derrida trying to prevent us from lynching lurkers, and in essence to save dnyarri makes me believe there is a high chance dnyarri is scum.

##Vote Dnyarri

On January 09 2014 20:40 sidesprang wrote:
I think Balla just assumed the roleblocker had to be mafia, but town can have one aswell. So that should not make you confirmed.

But atleast, If there are a town roleblocker I think you should roleblock Asuna again just on the odd chance he is SK.

On January 11 2014 06:35 sidesprang wrote:
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Because I think its more likely that dnyarri is scum ?

I posted what I did because I was unsure about OWB, and wanted more input. And also wanted to provide the things I found to the town. As then others might see something I don't.

Atm I think its more likely and more rewarding to lynch dynarri. I see no strong cases for OWB, and feel we might just go away from dynarri because it felt to easy. So I would rather stick with my original read.

On January 11 2014 06:44 Asuna wrote:
Hmm, well OWB it is o.o

##Vote: onlywonderboy

On January 11 2014 06:48 TheChyz wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Asuna

No reasoning, lurking until deadline, probably hoping to just live till next day.

On January 11 2014 06:53 sidesprang wrote:


Because he said "i felt scummy" ? And for some reason I never found that attack worth defending ?