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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 22:58 GMT
#868
On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa


Well we can't rule out 0Ts. Just cause we have VTs flip doesn't mean that. But ruling out 6T and 7T yeah
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 22:59 GMT
#869
##Vote: Dynarri

This is a policy lynch for me. Play the game or get out~
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 23:02 GMT
#870
4 posts over almost 35 pages is unacceptable
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 23:09 GMT
#874
On January 09 2014 08:05 BigDad wrote:
Seriously though where is Dynarri. I'd usually be reluctant to join a vote so early for fear of a bandwagon, but you're both confirmed town in my eyes so..

##Vote: Dynarri


Just curious: why are you here atm? Isn't the deadline at like 7am in Australia?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 23:16 GMT
#877
@BigDad: Why do you think scum killed Jonny?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 08 2014 23:50 GMT
#880
Maybe Derrida knew his case wasn't going to gain any traction so he decided he would drop it and killed him since he made a case on him... probably one of the best cases too..

Unfortunately if Jonny's death had anything to do with Derrida then that helps scum since they don't have to avoid the fact that the death was due to his case on Derrida. Not sure we can gain much more from this nk information wise.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:26 GMT
#881
Other than that it doesn't look like they were trying to frame anybody so I don't think we have to worry about that. Maybe trying to frame dynarri OR try to stop jonny from pushing dynarri. But obviously dynarri is a hot topic atm so everyone is talking about him, so it probably has nothing to do with that.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:37 GMT
#883
On January 09 2014 08:03 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa


Well we can't rule out 0Ts. Just cause we have VTs flip doesn't mean that. But ruling out 6T and 7T yeah


I am terribly sorry. Correction:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather


Which from that, we now 100% know that there were 3 scum. So it's 8 to 2 atm haha. We have 2 whole mislynches now until we get to MYLO.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#884
Just a note: cop doesn't have a shot...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#885
On January 09 2014 09:37 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 08:03 chinstrap wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa


Well we can't rule out 0Ts. Just cause we have VTs flip doesn't mean that. But ruling out 6T and 7T yeah


I am terribly sorry. Correction:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather


Which from that, we now 100% know that there were 3 scum. So it's 8 to 2 atm haha. We have 2 whole mislynches now until we get to MYLO.


Eish this also means there MUST be a mafia roleblocker or there is 100% a serial killer so the above mislynch scenarios would be false. Who got roleblocked???????? Speak up! You get the message whether you have a role or not so do not worry about outing that you have a role.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 02:14 GMT
#891
Why would Asuna point out that Derrida's list was missing her if she was scum with him? To gain town cred for the offchance that Derrida flips?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 03:15 GMT
#897
BigDad I think you can come up with your own analysis on that, what do YOU think?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 03:42 GMT
#899
On January 09 2014 12:32 BigDad wrote:
@balla Currently asking Day_Walker to further back the reasoning on his accusation.


And I'm saying it's pretty clear from his post what he thinks. The whole accusation is founded on the relationship between them and derrida. So it's a weird question...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 03:57 GMT
#901
So you're not asking about that post specifically but more about his general feeling? Cause it's pretty clear from that case he just posted that it is 100% dependent on Derrida's relationship with them and I don't see how you are missing that.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 05:45 GMT
#902
Went through everybody's filter here are my notes on who I would write off due to their interactions with derrida. Obviously this is not anything super concrete, but it's a start. I'm not confirming anybody in my mind as town or mafia, because its relatively easy for scum to fake interactions with their partners, but it's also NOT something they think about too hard when its their first scum game.

Some of these might be really weak connections or non-connections, so ask me if you come to a different conclusion and I'll try to clarify.

would not write off:
-owb
-day_walker
-bigdad
-dynyarri


people I would write as town due to their interaction with derrida:
-chyz
-sidesprang
-suki

plus conf towns (asuna is subject to change based on if anybody brings up new night action details)
- asuna
- chinstrap
- me


VOTES

derrida stayed on dragoon the entire time
-owb swapped to DNYARRI
-day_walker never got onto dragoon, voted for DNYARRI
-bigdad swapped to DAY_WALKER
-dnyarri stayed

Therefore, my top suspects atm are dnyarri and bigdad. Looking more into bigdad now since I'm policy lynching dnyarri.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 06:11 GMT
#903
Comrades! Just because we have found one white conspirator infiltrators does not mean can become complacent! Must still be vigilante in order to wipe out white conspirators within ranks! Have to report here all rumors and concerns as much as possible to find rest. (read in whitera voice)

Seriously where my town at?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:45 GMT
#935
Asuna is confirmed town to me FOR NOW... if she was town RB'ed then the town RB knows she is not confirmed at all and that's fine. But it is highly likely that someone else would claim the scum RB in that case (unless both scum and town RB'ed the same person).

I'm just going with the simplest answer atm, Occam's Razor. I also find it very very unlikely that if scum have an RB they didn't use it unless they have a super competent coach and had no blue reads. That's fine. We will find out. For the meantime, I'm considering Asuna conf. town.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:50 GMT
#937
I think if dnyarri is scum then that is alignment indicative of OWB; he almost got him lynched!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:56 GMT
#942
Nope. But right now we're playing under the assumption that there is no SK.

OWB doesn't play risky, you said it yourself, he's being very careful.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 17:00 GMT
#944
I made a mistake in my larger post last night: Big_Dad never got on dragoon, he swapped from DAY_WALKER to DNYARRI. That changes things for me a little bit. That means that if all scum are in my top4 then they had a really uncoordinated effort with derrida... it also means that they were voting for dnyarri..
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