Sure that makes sense.

Look, we basically all agreed that there was scum in the vote already. Just because someone was voting for dragoon wasn't alignment indicative at that point. So dnyarri's vote specifically being the first didn't mean anything to me, especially since it was off of a crappy case.

Again though, I was heated already at that point. There's definitely some dumb shit i said at the deadline...

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 16:15 GMT

#805

On January 07 2014 22:34 Derrida wrote:
@Balla I will not go back to page 20 to discuss what you think are 'loopholes' in my rhetoric, do keep in mind that it is the very first post of my very first mafia game. I do have somewhat different reads on many participants as of right now.

Derrida: FUCK THIS.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 16:18 GMT

#806

If you have different reads then explain what changed... You can't just NOT answer stuff because you don't feel like it. You can shut it down because you feel like it's an anti-town question but there is absolutely no reason to not explain reasoning when you are asked. This whole game is about finding "loopholes in your rhetoric".

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 16:36 GMT

#807

I thought Derrida was scum yesterday and still do.

On January 07 2014 19:48 Derrida wrote:
@Balla, once again,

Show nested quote +

Because I said I'm falling asleep, even though I was still conversing with everyone. He doesn't seem particularly worried about who I'm going to vote for but just says it for the sake of saying it. I don't get why he was so pushy about getting an answer. Pretty weak attack obviously though. Noted.

On January 08 2014 04:40 Derrida wrote:
Quite the change of heart from bold "lynch me and you will see Suki as scum" to "I'm thinking she is town as well."

This is his last post before deadline... around 2 hrs before it. At this point it was pretty clear that dragoon was going to get lynched. But I do find it super weird that he hasn't even said anything about what went down at lynch time since then. Not to mention this post here isn't helpful and doesn't leave room for Dragoon to try to explain his reasoning more.

On January 07 2014 06:44 Derrida wrote:
I've been asked both by TheChyz and Balla about why I thought TheChyz was not scummy. I just re-read through his filter, I still don't think he is scummy. It is a tough question to disprove him not being a scum though, isn't it? Not fair.

This is part of why i'm so annoyed that he doesn't answer two of the points I brought up on pg20. In his first reads, he claims TheChyz is town because he initially reacted to ME the same way, which means he claims he thought I was scummy for being super active and "controlling".

TheChyz got a fair bit of suspicion on him because of that, and ended up retracting and coming up with the "i was just trying to start a bandwagon on myself" argument... yet Derrida has NO OPINION on that whatsoever and town reads thechyz for what everyone else was calling scummy... yet dragoon who did relatively the same thing was NULL for him. There's just so many inconsistencies in his first list post and he has yet to address them all.

I shouldn't have let it go so easily.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 16:40 GMT

#808

Last thing on the vote switch: I agree with suki, it looks townie... but I think it ends up being pretty non-indicative of alignment until we get a flip on dynyarri and he flips scum. If he flips scum then it is totally town-indicative, if not then it's totally non-indicative.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 16:56 GMT

#815

Let's stop these personal attacks before they go too far pls. They're hard to read and they're obviously hurtful. It'll just make things emotional.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 17:06 GMT

#818

Definitely realized that when it happened haha...

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 17:27 GMT

#822

Man I hate that post... so contrived... I would understand if you came up with a scum read on me for not switching if you 100% thought dragoon was town after his final post and don't see how I didn't... but Jonny too basically because of me? I hard it really hard to believe that that's what you came up with right after all this....

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 17:33 GMT

#826

On January 09 2014 02:31 Derrida wrote:
Of course you would hate that post because it points to two scums as two scums for the first time in the game. The only two things that do not make sense in that lynch for me are Jonny's switch and your reaction.

And what of OWB's switch?

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 17:34 GMT

#827

And chinstrap switch?

I'm sorry but it's so contrived because that's like the riskiest scum move ever... unless all 3 scum were involved I don't see how you could expect a swing that hard to happen..

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 17:35 GMT

#828

You rely on other townies suddenly changing their opinions for very little for that

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:04 GMT

#850

Nope... it was me 1 shot vig

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:06 GMT

#851

Im sad jonny is dead

i luv u man ride or die

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:09 GMT

#853

I really don't get why they killed Jonny after Derrida put out the Me/Jonny scumteam... doesn't make sense...

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:10 GMT

#854

Was anybody role blocked?

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:11 GMT

#855

If you were just say you were RB'ed and that's it. You should 100% say that if you were RB'ed, there's no reason to hide it and it gives us more information about the setup.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:25 GMT

#857

Why did you think he was bad town? You didn't really say..

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:47 GMT

#861

Look @ who he mentions as "tentative townie" or who he does not even mention or make reads on.

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:52 GMT

#864

I'm trying to wrap my head around why they would kill Jonny after Derrida made the case vs me and jonny... maybe they knew it was doomed from the start I guess.

So who did Jonny push?

#1 Asuna, #2 Dragoon, #3 Dyrrida (from memory)

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 08 2014 22:53 GMT

#866

EBWOP dynarri lol... names are too similar