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Risen
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On November 23 2013 07:24 supersoft wrote: actually a scumteam Risen/Oats is possible. Distancing himself from Oats before his death makes sense. I just realized ss unvoted me then revoted me with this as his justification and hasn't responded to the point I raised about it lol. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:10 Holyflare wrote: Oh I thought you were referring to the BC point because he said that too a bit ago and that still isn't his point about you either because everyone in the thread has commented how bad it is when you come back and post a list of names and afk again. It's unproductive, there is no reasoning and it wasted peoples time. Sure there's reasoning. It gives people an updated perspective on how I'm viewing things. For example, Pandain is back to being scummy for me because of his inability to believe Thrawn is scum and his clinging to a viewpoint instead of being open to change it (in my mind that's for fear of appearing like a flip flopper which townies shouldn't be afraid of) | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:11 Holyflare wrote: Also what you have said the past few pages has been nothing really useful, it was austin who consolidated the reads of the thread so it is his effort. Which is in line with what I've said so.... | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote: Also please tell me how my justification is wrong because I really want to be able to figure you out. Which part are you referring to. I'm an open book yo | ||
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Risen
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I've already responded. Since coming into the thread I've helped push for consolidation (an austin led effort) and I've been integral in getting the SS/Pandain situation cleared up. Was there a little chaos? Sure. But I don't think getting through all that misunderstanding was going to be clean in any universe. Also, it still hasn't been all that cleared up (see: hopeless). I did not do the same thing at all in our last game together. This is what makes you scum in my eyes. You're very much misrepresenting my gameplay in WHC. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:17 Holyflare wrote: The part about WHC and you returning to screw things up. That's what you did in that game. You had a scum read on me day 1 because I said the same thing yet somehow it fell off with not really much comment on it and now here we are again with you saying the same thing, disregarding everything before. I want to know why this game is different to that game? It's just less words but same motive IMO If you're honestly looking at that game and this one and seeing the same thing why are you even talking to me? This whole effort by you to try and "figure me out" is a total ruse. Once I'm gone (if I do end up being lynched) lynch HF. This whole effort is a ruse, he's clearly not willing to change his mind on the subject, and he's very VERY clearly twisting my gameplay last game and this one hoping no one will go read through my previous game. His push on me here has amounted to "well last game you provided some justification for your pushes but didn't back them. Here you provide no justification for your pushes and are not backing them. See? Same thing. Wat | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote: It's easy to also agree with consolidating if some votes may be on scum members so that makes no difference Going to completely ignore the whole pandain/ss situation? Going to simply tunnel? What we have here is a clearly scum HF unsure of how to play. I think he's a noob so I'll give him a pass this game. Your town play is much more impressive. ##unvote: Pandain ##vote: Holyflare Let's get this wagon rolling folks! Oats/HF should be the second lynch beside BC. Or me beside BC and then those two. Choo Choo! | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:25 Grackaroni wrote: Ok Risen lynch looks pretty good. He was really trollish and acted like he didn't give a shit all game long and just laughed when he was leading the votes earlier in the day, and now he started getting really try hard defending himself. I'm pretty sure he cares a lot about his scum reputation lol. Plus just from looking at the vote list I'm more comfortable with Risen lynch than Pandain. ##Unvote: Coag ##Vote: Risen How the fuck did I forget about the liar? lol | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:26 Holyflare wrote: Im masoned with ss, i brought up the entire ss/pandain situation by scouring ss'logs, half of the people in this game were also in WHC so if i say something intentionally false they would most definitely see it. I'm asking you questions to get a read on you to actually change my mind but you're ignoring it with OMGUS and so I'm quite comfortable leaving it where it is until you answer reasonably I've very clearly answered your questions. This is just you trying to hold the appearance of being willing to change your mind. Do not be swayed by this falseness folks. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:27 Grackaroni wrote: you didn't. It pained you that you couldn't policy lynch me. I simply mean how did I forget about you in my recent "holy shit there's so many scummy people in this game" post. Hey HF, last game to this game, how many people did I push D2 onwards? How many people am I pushing here? Metametameta, you seem to oh so lov3e meta, you're using it in your justification here! I was very clear and concise about who I wanted to lynch each day in my previous game because I had access to all the information about people's alignments. Want a convincing argument about my gameplay being different here? Look at that one. My gameplay is literally night and day. There's another reason HF is scum. I could believe the push if HF was saying I was changing my meta on purpose to be different from my last game, but he didn't say that. He said my gameplay was the same. And why am I posting so much? Because you fucking people poked the bear and now I'm sitting here invested in the game (also SS/Pandain situation was top tier drama TNT should pick that shit up) | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:28 austinmcc wrote: RISEN. WE ARE GOING TO TALK FOR A MOMENT. THERE ARE NINETEEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIFTEEN PEOPLE GOT VOTES. FOURTEEN PEOPLE HAD VOTES A MOMENT AGO. PROBABLY LIKE TWELVE AND A HALF PEOPLE HAVE VOTES NOW. IF YOU ARE MAFIA TODAY, A COUPLE HOURS FROM LYNCH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THAT SCENARIO? IF A NORMAL TL MAFIA PLAYER IS MAFIA TODAY, SAME TIMING, WHAT IS NORMAL JOE DOING IN THAT SCENARIO? I'm bussing one of my scummy teammate homies because they're scummy as shit. Normal joe is defending his scum team and trying to misconstrue what people have said. I really hate questions like this. What do I do as scum always? I find the most scummy person in the thread and build a case on them, regardless of their alignment. It just helps me find scummy things about people when I know their alignment. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. So... what do you want? BC/rayn lynch? | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:33 Hopeless1der wrote: Risen, I'll gladly look into the cases HF has made tonight. I don't think you can get enough votes onto him in the meantime. You mentioned you are not satisfied with the Pandain/SS resolution. Can we go back to that? Also, Austin is screaming at you for some attention. Responded to Austin. I honestly don't know what's up with the ss/Pandain resolution. It's a really, really fucked situation. There's clear lying going on, there's clear misdirection going on, but it can all be explained by miscommunication... or can it? It dragged on for so many pages I wasn't able to get a good read on ss/pandain's responses. It doesn't help that neither of them answered anything for so long. What were they doing? Talking to each other in scum QT about how to get themselves out? SS's response that he thought pandain was claiming to be a veteran of TL is so bullshit it makes my toes curl. His followup that Oats/Risen scumteam is possible is also bullshit. Oats doesn't happen without me. Oats STILL isn't happening. Why is town ss ignoring all the shit austin brought up a little bit ago? Why is he treating his RB as conf scum? | ||
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Risen
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Your case is awesome. I don't want to lynch rayn right now. I don't think we have the people to lynch rayn. I'm not as sure on rayn as I am about other people. BC needs to get lynched, we need to find out who the second lynch is going to be asap so we can start digging. Is it me? Bummer, but there's information to be gleaned from this. Look at Grack, he looks terrible in all this. Look at HF, even worse. Look at SS, my god holy shitballs awful. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:36 austinmcc wrote: I don't care if you hate questions like this. You are blowing up at HF for crafting some case on you based on play last game where you played good scum or you played decent scum and town played like poop or whatever. You KNOW that he hasn't read all your games, and that he's overanalyzing a particular game. You, assuming you're town here, KNOW that he's not bussing you. So what that leaves me is that you think HF, if he's scum, is trying to defend his scumbuddies and he's trying to misconstrue what people have said. He's just building a case on someone scummy. My question is....why you? Why, when he's getting little traction on his case and posts specifically, all his HWC mafia references, does he keep going. The votes are spread. He PROBABLY doesn't have to protect someone all that hard. Why does scum HF attack YOU specifically, and in this really, really, HF-specific way ----> constant references to a game you guys just recently played in. Do you think he's effectively making you look scummy? Do you think HE thinks he's effectively making you look scummy? Why me? I'm the clear frontrunner for second lynch in front of LM or Pandain or SS or Oats. All of those people look really bad. My gameplay isn't the most endearing. I am the easiest person to push a mislynch onto. I don't think he's being effective. I think the majority of the train on me is scum, not town. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:44 austinmcc wrote: If I count correctly, you have 4 votes. That's, frankly, not a boatload. I don't think it's near enough to say you're a "clear frontrunner." For all the people moving onto you, or the train, or whatever, since the last vote count I see THREE UNVOTES on you and TWO VOTES. You've LOST VOTES. I don't terribly see that as an effective scum push when really they only need a couple votes. If scum has is out for you, you'd have an extra vote or two IF they had active members that cared at all. The fact that you're LOSING votes speaks to me that either a push is going elsewhere, or there isn't some concerted action to get you lynched. I thought I was at 5 with ss coming back onto me? Regardless, I'm still being lynched as things stand, correct? Mission accomplished, no? | ||
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