• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:43
CEST 20:43
KST 03:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On8Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition(?)185.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)91$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition(?) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
BarrackS' ASL S20 Ro.8 Review&Power of Friendship BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game Thoughts on rarely used units RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1483 users

TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 9

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 23 Next All
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 01:44 GMT
#2780
On November 18 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also agree with the Vayne comment. Vayne has to be town too.

I'm curious how does this flip effect your HF read?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 01:49 GMT
#2785
On November 18 2013 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 10:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also agree with the Vayne comment. Vayne has to be town too.

I'm curious how does this flip effect your HF read?

Why would it?

whoops I could have sworn he was one of the other people trying to kill Mocsta. turns out he wasn't pushing him very hard.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 05:58 GMT
#2891
BH, can you direct me to any town game of yours where you have fake claimed. I don't see why you would put a breadcrumb like that in your first post as town if you are not actually a tracker; as soon as you entered the game you were already planning to fake claim...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:01 GMT
#2895
I still think Koshi is likely scum but I want to hear more from BH. I also haven't peeked into Oats' filter since the start of the game so I will take a look at him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:02 GMT
#2899
I can't tell if Hopeless is for real or not. He's like annoyed that people are pushing him and calling him useless after he's done nothing for so long.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:03 GMT
#2901
Did you look at my Koshi case Pandain?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:06 GMT
#2904
Tracker is a hard role to fakeclaim with other trackers in the game likely to watch him. I could understand him wanting to get out of that as scum and he already said in his original claim in thread that he was claiming because he didn't have any time.

BH's case on me is honestly better than any contribution I have seen him make as scum in recent days, but I can't remember a single time where BH has fake claimed as town before.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:19 GMT
#2912
On November 18 2013 15:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
as in knowing its fake, or the claim? Again, claiming as scum who is gonna get lynched is NEVER bad.

Or sometimes even making a completely random claim when you are already not going to get lynched! That is even more fun.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:29 GMT
#2916
On November 18 2013 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey grack, is hopeless scum?

I don't think he's reading the thread. After being gone for an entire cycle he added nothing. I'm having a difficult time believing that a scum player could be so monumentally useless when he is under some pressure to be killed.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:41 GMT
#2920
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:42 GMT
#2922
Pandain all you talk about is BH's fake claim. It's not an attractive look for you. I want you to talk to me about my case. discuss actual reads with me rather than drone on about this one thing over and over again.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:45 GMT
#2925
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#2927
On November 18 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote:
No I'm done thinking about BH for the most part. I'm not talking about it except to explain what I think about BH. And I can do that without thinking hard while I would have to read your analysis of Koshi, then read Koshi's filter, then read his meta, and so forth which would take like an hour.

It's convenience posting for me until I fall asleep

It's not just tonight though, even earlier in the day when I originally wrote a case on Koshi all you were doing was attacking BH for making a dumb claim.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:52 GMT
#2929
BH scum is as easy to read as Yamato's scum. If he doesn't scumhunt then he dies. No point continuously pushing him for making a dumb claim.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:57 GMT
#2933
On November 18 2013 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.

Why does VE look bad?

He wouldn't fully flesh out any real reasoning for his mayor lynch targets being scum. The fact that he ended up lynching Skanjab. I also don't like the way he started accusing me of "breaking character" as soon as I attempted to question Mocsta.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 06:58 GMT
#2935
On November 18 2013 15:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)

But hopeless is bad at playing scum. He is just blending man. He posts insightful and useful stuff as town and doesnt do it as scum. And he is TRYING to post its just not very good.

I'll look into him then. I don't think I've seen a scum hopeless before.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:03 GMT
#2942
On November 18 2013 15:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:42 Pandain wrote:
No, it's not even about bad.

Why would scum fake claim 6 hours before?

because yamato wanted to kill him and he possibly couldnt post between 6-0 before the deadline.
Why would town fake claim 6 hours before?


Oh stop he posted afterwards

and it makes sense if you don't want to get lynched and don't have time to fully commit day one as town.

This is the last I'll post of this since Grack wants me to stop, though I'm a bit irritated he doesn't see that I'm not even concerned about BH that much anymore

I know you aren't concerned about BH but you have spent practically all of the night phase saying BH is scum for his role claim and then spent the last few hours arguing that BH is town because it was a fake claim. You just don't seem willing to actually discuss anything important in the game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:03 GMT
#2943
On November 18 2013 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH if you did that as town, I will shit on you every time you say you are a good player.

I already do.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:07 GMT
#2947
On November 18 2013 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 18 2013 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Oats, can you elaborate on what you meant earlier when you said VE can't play this good as scum? I think he looks quite bad right now.

Why does VE look bad?

He wouldn't fully flesh out any real reasoning for his mayor lynch targets being scum. The fact that he ended up lynching Skanjab. I also don't like the way he started accusing me of "breaking character" as soon as I attempted to question Mocsta.

Yeah the skanjab lynch was weird and bad. So you dont think the 'breaking character' thing is accurate? Why did you change from messing around to playing properly?

No I don't think that's accurate. I trolled my way through most of the dick measuring contest and Mocsta's post was the first thing that actually struck me as scummy. I had wanted to try to question him and he pushed me into defending myself and my trolling.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 18 2013 07:13 GMT
#2954
BH. Have you ever fake claimed as town before?
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Safe House 2
18:00
Qualifier #1
ZombieGrub161
EnkiAlexander 55
LiquipediaDiscussion
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#16
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
14:55
FSL TeamLeague: PTBvsIC, CNvRR
Freeedom30
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub161
Livibee 120
BRAT_OK 64
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31850
Rain 6804
Larva 165
ZZZero.O 87
Dewaltoss 74
HiyA 42
Rock 26
sas.Sziky 26
ivOry 21
NaDa 11
Dota 2
qojqva3891
monkeys_forever189
Counter-Strike
fl0m1592
ScreaM1170
flusha82
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor563
Liquid`Hasu500
Other Games
FrodaN4044
Grubby2760
Mlord727
RotterdaM460
B2W.Neo377
ArmadaUGS98
XaKoH 75
Mew2King61
UpATreeSC43
rGuardiaN26
JuggernautJason13
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1257
gamesdonequick796
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 76
• Hupsaiya 31
• LUISG 28
• davetesta27
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4389
League of Legends
• Nemesis3223
• Jankos2314
Other Games
• imaqtpie1213
• Shiphtur287
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 18m
BSL Team Wars
1d
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
OSC
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.