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On November 22 2013 01:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2013 00:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On November 22 2013 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can people stop trying to break the game based on "find the scum vet" or "find the fakeclaim" and play mafia instead? kthx.
##Vote: Pandain
##Vote: BC
If Vayne is fine with being lynched to set his bombs off I'm willing to do that Finding fakeclaims is part of mafia. Haven't you ever played "I'm the cop, you idiot!"? That's insufficient to lynch someone. Like Risen 'policying' grack. Shut the fuck up and find mafia. "wah ss/bc/mig have to be mafia because marv is a big meanie-face" Cool story bro. How bout some motive to back that up with? There are still 5 mafia alive, and still I have yet to see anyone comment on my case on Pandain, aside from Oats being a dick. I explicitly asked SS two or three times and have got nothing. This game is a fucking farce. BC has spent his last couple days being angry at town and explaining how there is no way mig is town vet because "balance" and "logic". Stop gaming the setup. His arguments for mig shooting a lurker over shooting BC are trash imo. That's what vig shots are for, to clear out the unknowns that you are unwilling to lynch. BC is absolutely a viable lynch and I want him dead. Whether that is through Vayne or not remains to be seen, but one way or another I want BC's flip today. [*]1)How is it that it is fine for mig to use balance as a reason to justify why I must be red when its wrong for me to use balance to justify there must be 1 scum within 4 kp claimants? [*]2)Then to take that scum and point out that two days in a row he opted to not shoot his top scum read, and instead shoot into a lurker pile giving 0 information off the kills? [*]3)You're right, all im doing is gaming the setup. I didnt point out that mig opted to not shoot his top scum read day 1. hell I didn't even point out his only case post on me was balance speculation that I had to be red. Hell, I didn't even point out that the guy said he thought he was gonna die, and that the guy who claimed he was going to shoot me was likely going to be roleblocked (he said 99% sure of this) and instead of shooting his top scum read again he shoots a rando lurker. You're right, thats gaming the system. Its standard policy for town to look at the thread go "man im 100% sure that guy is red so ima shoot someone else for lulsies"
1) You're both wrong. You look worse based on how you go about doing things
2) That is, in my opinion, how vig shots SHOULD be allocated. Good for you Mig.
3) I never said that trying to game the setup was ALL you did. I specifically address your argument that Mig should have been shooting you and not Mattchew(or some other lurker). Get lynched scum.
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On November 22 2013 01:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
So you are advocating that if someone is 100% sure on someone being red and wants them to die, that not killing SHOOTING them is ideal play?
ftfy. And yes.
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On November 22 2013 06:48 Pandain wrote:
Vote: Raynepelikeoneet
Good case, 5/5
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On November 22 2013 07:25 Coagulation wrote:
what do you guys think about pandian dropping off the face of the earth ?
i'll have to reconsider, he masoned me after I called out his rayn vote.
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On November 22 2013 11:10 Pandain wrote:
Going to be afk until tomorrow btw that's why I'm gone schoolwork is massive and it does come first blahblah
Well thats a cool story. I'll be waiting....until then, maybe someone else can explain why Pandain wanted to mason me? Or maybe you can just lynch him? Or both, whatever, your call.
Someone take a look at this:
On November 22 2013 06:48 Pandain wrote:
Vote: Raynepelikeoneet
On November 22 2013 07:00 Hopeless1der wrote:Good case, 5/5
Okay now check out the time on Message #1 in the mason chat:
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Pandain
11-21-2013
05:43 PM ET (US) jk
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hopeless1der
11-21-2013
05:41 PM ET (US) well that was fun, we should do this again some time. gotta go out shortly. If there was a point to masoning me be sure to mention for when I'm back.
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Pandain
11-21-2013
05:33 PM ET (US) yes
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Pandain
11-21-2013
05:33 PM ET (US) lol
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hopeless1der
11-21-2013
05:24 PM ET (US) oh this should be good. you need me to proofread your case on rayn before you post it?
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marvellosity
11-21-2013
05:02 PM ET (US) Pandain and Hopeless1der mason Day 3/Night 3
When you're done think about why Pandain does that as either town or mafia->+ Show Spoiler +I cant think of a town motive to start a mason chat and have nothing to say at the start of it, and I know there doesn't seem to be a scum motive either, but in the absence of ANY motivation I default to scum playing WIFOM games to mess with people.
Thoughts?
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On November 22 2013 12:50 Grackaroni wrote:
lol I'm more curious about why your first instinct is to help Pandain with his case on Rayn while thinking Rayn is town and Pandain is scum.
/sarcasm...1/5, would not troll again.
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On November 22 2013 12:55 Holyflare wrote:
If pandain was scum, what would be the point of masoning somebody to say nothing? Don't you think that's obvious incrimination?
Flip the question to what if pandain was town, etc?
I can't answer either side of that coin. I default to scum. What's your take?
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On November 22 2013 12:58 austinmcc wrote:
Hey hopeless, couple questions and sorry if some have really obvious answers but I've been focused elsewhere so far today:
Have you played a decent number of games with Vayne? If so...how you feelz about him here?
If BC is mafia, how you feelz about supersoft?
I think I've only played Hogwarts with Vayne where he ended up getting himself modkilled. No idea what his meta or playstyle is like really. However, his Alice in Wonderland tangents make me feel good about his hatter claim
If BC is mafia, then [hypocrisy] by vet balance [/hypocrisy] SS looks better. In general I have huge problems with SS' play being dogshit. He has cited being tired as a reason for not making sense, but things like not understanding what Pandain means when he says "vet" or how Oats must be scum because of his (unconfirmed) roleblock clash with my expectations of super-"Vote me/mig/bc for mayor"-soft
But if (when) BC flips scum I'd give SS a day or two to get shot or solve the game.
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Guys I'm going to bed. I expect you to lynch Pandain. This is significantly more incriminating than Rayne's stance on LM.
BC/Pandain for lynch gogo.
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On November 22 2013 13:11 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 13:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Guys I'm going to bed. I expect you to lynch Pandain. This is significantly more incriminating than Rayne's stance on LM.
BC/Pandain for lynch gogo. You believe that 2 mafia both masoned ss D1? If so, and actually we all should do this, we need to check the QTs. If they are both pushing similar/identical objectives at ss, I could maybe buy it. Otherwise I find it unlikely.
Oh hell now I have to read those mason logs again  . I never noticed that connection before.
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Sorry, I'll read them in the morning. Goodnight.
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someone explain to me how i'm still the only person on pandain.
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On November 23 2013 03:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
someone explain to me how i'm still the only person on pandain.
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HEY! HEY! WHY THE FUCK AM I THE ONLY ONE ON PANDAIN?! WHY THE FUCK AM I HERE? IS THIS AN EXTENSION OF HIS SHITTY MASON CHAT?
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On November 23 2013 03:18 Pandain wrote:
Also hopeless I thoroughly debunked your case in our mason chat
TAKE NOTES. THIS IS HOW YOU CLAIM SCUM. 5/5 WOULD LYNCH AGAIN.
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On November 23 2013 03:26 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
Why isn't SS defending Pandain if he already forged his mason log to do it and he's so active in a qt with mig? Where did SS say he thinks Pandain is town?
Pandain said that he never claimed "vet" or any other role, and that message 25 (and I'd like to add 48) in the mason chats between SS/Pandain were 'forged' to protect Pandains "true identity". This logic suggests that SS thinks Pandain is town because he would go through the trouble of changing the chat to keep his role a secret.
Disclaimer: This scenario assumes that Pandain is town.
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On November 23 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless what was the Day Pandain was masoned with SS?
Day 1, SS was masoned to Pandain and BC at the same time.
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On November 23 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 03:36 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless what was the Day Pandain was masoned with SS? Day 1, SS was masoned to Pandain and BC at the same time. So i n thread ss calls Pandain "confirmed scum" but he feels the need to "protect Pandain's true identity" when he posts mason logs. Scumtell became a towntell. Both of those guys are scum.
I say Pandain is lying. SS doesnt look good for other stuff, but I'm not ready to say he faked the mason logs.
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EPT
He did claim vet too after all.
