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On November 26 2013 10:24 austinmcc wrote:We probably lynch risen, imo, unless something neat turns up. But may as well still be trying to solve the game. Show nested quote +On November 26 2013 10:18 VayneAuthority wrote:On November 26 2013 10:07 Mig wrote:
Maybe vayne can stop saying Austin is scum now. what are you talkin' about rtard? Austin has been the one pushing me, only reason I started pushing him. Anyone that thinks I am scum can rot. VA, you had me as scum earlier, before I pushed you, for no reason as of yet. And you liked an austinmcc/pandain lynch (which now appears to be TWO VETS). Don't act like you didn't have me scum, and didn't slightly push me previously. But you're still not a lynch right now.
hey at least you are 0/3, good work
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Mig
Onegu
Koshi
Coagulation
Hopeless1der
Grackaroni
Pandain
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Risen
Mr. Cheesecake
Holyflare
LoneMeow
Alakaslam
Oatsmaster
I'm looking at this if Risen is indeed town.
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Therefore we lynch risen, if town, then lynch from the not-green list and get a 3/5 chance to hit mafia.
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If Risen is mafia, then i'm looking harder at people who really wanted to switch to thrawn to gain that towncred.
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hey wtf CC, Im like the only one who hasnt tried to lynch you this game.
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On November 26 2013 10:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Gj guys. Show or hands, who is willing to burn a lynch on VA?
Mano-a-Mano
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On November 26 2013 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey wtf CC, Im like the only one who hasnt tried to lynch you this game.
Lol... I don't think I've had a vote on me this game. What are you even talking about? U scum bro?
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On November 26 2013 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey wtf CC, Im like the only one who hasnt tried to lynch you this game.
Hmm I now think Oats might be scum. Fuck that previous townread, this comment is so much BS because I haven't seen a single person try to lynch me. Don't try to buddy up to me in hopes you'll ride out to lylo based on my initial townread of you.
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On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed
AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch.
With quotes like this in both thrawns and BCs filter, we need to lynch risen tomorrow.
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In addition: Look at the votecount on D3 with BC/Thrawn/Risen.
both scum were voting for Pandain, and not risen. Risen had his vote tied up in Oats and rayn. Yeah, we're lynching Risen tomorrow 100% no shenannies. Except really no shenannies this time.
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Mr. Cheesecake's Big List of What The Fuck to Do
1) Risen needs to be lynched tomorrow, cut and dry. If you are advocating against lynching Risen, you are not being pro-town. There is indisputable evidence that Risen is probably mafia. In the event he flips town, the game is all but won due to the information we possess via votecounts and flipped scum associations.
A) Evidence - Not a single mention of Risen in Mocsta's filter. Albeit short, he never mentions Risen throughout the cycle in which he lived. Thrawn did not want to lynch Risen, nor did BC. This is obvious by the votecounts on Day 3, in which both mafia voted for Pandain rather than Risen. Thrawn blatantly says that he doesn't want to lynch Risen during Day 3.
B) Evidence - Risen martyr's like a fool. I saw little attempt to direct town in the right direction if he had died. He Promises to make cases before the deadline! Look!
+ Show Spoiler +On November 25 2013 08:27 Risen wrote:
1) at the end of the day I will post actual cases on my top reads. Doing so sooner means you guys might move off of me.
2) the question you need to ask yourself mig, since you seem to have a hard time with this, is does town risen have that big an ego? The answer is yes. That's what scum risen would say, too, though. I thought people last game were wrong saying risen only gets away with this kind of thing because he's so bad but now I think they're right lol. I thought I did a really good job establishing myself as town the first couple days. Clearly, I did not.
Risen is not caring about the town, and doesn't make good on his promises. Did you see any giant Risen case? He was about to die, very close. No cases. He was going to die silently.
C) Evidence - Risen just isn't playing very pro-town in general. I can't exactly say much to this point, but it's true. What evidence is there that Risen is town? I can't find much in this regard. Lynch.
2) In the event Risen flips Town. Follow this List. I believe it to be correct.
Mig ---> Claims 2-shot vigi, seems legit. Very plausible town.
Coagulation ---> Voted Thrawn, if scum would have killed town Risen.
Hopeless1der ---> Both BC and Mocsta were scummy on him. Voted Thrawn.
Grackaroni ---> All 3 scum have pushed him super hard. Could be universal bussing, but likely town. Voted Thrawn.
austinmcc ---> began Thrawn wagon of justice, leading lynch onto scum away from town.
Mr. Cheesecake---> I'm town bitches.
Holyflare ---> Voted Thrawn. Seemed townie to me early on.
LoneMeow ---> Mason. 3 mafia masons? Voted Thrawn last hour when could have killed Risen ez.
Alakaslam ---> Voted Thrawn. Called mafia by Thrawn I think. Least townie of town.
Onegu ---> Voted Risen, ??? What has he done this game I don't remember.
Koshi ---> Led lynch onto Town Rayn, leading away from Town Risen, no big deal. Didn't vote thrawn.
Oatsmaster ---> Scummy in his own right. Declined to vote, not modkilled.
Pandain --> Towniest of the reds. Both scum voted him end of D3. Bus tactics? didn't kill thrawn. was he the vet claim?
VayneAuthority ---> Claims mad hatter, but no proofs of explody bombs. Didnt vote thrawn, but didnt vote Risen either.
3) In the event Risen flips Mafia. Only two mafia left!
We gain a ton of information about the Day 4 and Day 3 lynches. Look at who were voting BC/Thrawn/Risen. Who was NOT voting these people and shying away from them. I think Koshi really fits the bill here, pulling the Risen lynch onto Rayn.
For Day 4, mafia were probably bussing Risen because he was the unanimous lynch. Switching onto Thrawn last minute is a good way to gain towncred by swing voting a mafia (See: Nomination, I lead a lynch on scum away from scum VE, gain all the towncred, lose game cus can't kill people at night). In this case, the associations and voting patterns get a bit harder to decipher, as both candidates were mafia. I'd be looking at people who either didn't care about the lynch target, or were trying to actively call Risen town by virtue of Thrawn being mafia. This lynch gains scum Risen towncred and the ones who lynched Risen towncred. It's hazy, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Scum has 1 KP. With daybreak, assuming 1 town dies, game will be at 3 v 11 (14 players left). Assuming Risen flips town + 1 more death, 3 v 9. Mislynch again. 3 v 7. mislynch AGAIN 3 v 5 lylo. This means that IF Risen flips town, we still have two lynches with ALL THAT INFORMATION. Still, a VERY good position for town! If he flips scum, we have more mislynches allotted, but with less direction. Can probably close out the game by being active, and when the first scum of the last two flips.
Game's in the bag, folks. If anyone can dispute this strategy, do so now. Lynch Risen, win game.
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Just a side note: The list in "Risen Flips Town" scenario is tentative. I didn't do that much analysis, and would rather wait for his flip, as to not waste all the energy/effort on something that wasn't true.
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Look at CC posting content for the town, what a champion.
But yea ezy Risen vote tomorrow. If Risen was town I like to believe that thrawn would have at least made some effort. He could have came back voted Risen and tried to sway the town and force at least one mislynch. I mean it wouldn't exactly be a hard case to make, Risen is scummy as fuck and the lynch was close. Remember mafia kp was on the line the fact he just afkd out points towards him having no options of pulling anything off.
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Risen martyring really badly makes me think hes town lol.
CC, Im sure everyone has said, HEY CC is scummyish. EXCEPT ME. BUDDY BUDDY?
Dude I voted in thread multiple times. Fuck voting threads man. Hosts should do their work the hard way.
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I pretty much agree with CC's list on the off chance that Risen flips town.
If Risen flips mafia I would go for Coag first then slam/onegu/oats/hopeless/maybe LM maybe koshi.
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what the fuck.
why the fuck would you go after me if risen gets flipped red?
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United States4714 Posts
I explained last night why I thought you were the most likely to be mafia other than Risen/thrawn. Why does risen flipping red make you look better?
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Assuming Risen is mafia who do you want lynched Coag?
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