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On December 05 2013 08:36 austinmcc wrote:
But the START of his shenanigans, iirc, was him coming in and asking who to vote for.
If he's mafia...why does he come in and ask who to vote for?
If he's mafia...when someone says thrawn, he doesn't hedge AT ALL? He just hops on thrawn?
And then...swaps off later because he goes OH MAN I FORGOT THRAWN IS MY BUDDY AND WE'LL LOSE A KP BUT I CAN'T SAVE HIM ANYWAY!
I don't get that.
If he's mafia he comes in and asks to consolidate upon a person, people think he's agreeable and following town sentiment. Thrawn was hammered, there was no changing it unless hardcore shenanigans which may have been planned in QT previously before slam returned. Reads QT and swaps off, people say it is too late and won't do it.
EZ conclusion, obviously wifom as hell but changing to a person who is only 1 vote ahead of the other is not a towny mindset either, that just promotes likely shenanigans instead of deters them!
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changing from a person who is only 1 vote ahead of the other to a person with 0 votes*
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maybe they come up with the plan at the end of the day, who the hell cares, I don't want to focus JUST on this point there are LOADS of things in his filter that don't make sense from a town point of view! Did you even read his mason chat to me? Is that a towny mindset too??
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austin wth why did you tell me onegu had a good reason to switch to CC and LM's switch was scummy when onegu's was also really quite terrible.........
On December 02 2013 00:43 Onegu wrote:
For some reason I thought oats voted for BC when I read his filter, now I see he didnt. Plus I have been given good arguements as to why oats is more scummy than Mr. CC who I was planning on voteing.
##VOTE OATSMASTER
On December 02 2013 02:48 Onegu wrote:
All right Im fine with this
##UNVOTE
##VOTE MRCC
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I'm not sure how you went from his top scum read of definitely scum to top town read of will not lynch along with pandain either!
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Onegu also defend coag like a crazy mofo!
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On December 02 2013 09:09 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 09:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, I get it but I just don't get the "feels" that you do :/ I do like meta though but I don't want to actively lynch someone that I got a read on that seems to be opposite to thread sentiment without researching it myself first.
If CC was out of the picture austin who would your alternatives/follow ups be on? I would like to discuss LM's switch to CC too after JUST making a case on oats, what do you think of that?? Onegu is the same judging by the votes although I didn't read his reasoning for a switch. The alternatives and people to follow up on for me are slam and VA. I think. Things are still dying down from thanksgiving here, and I have not had full time the last couple days to work more towards solving things. Slam had a couple curious votes that stood out to me, and from what I recall his filter doesn't have those posts that tickle me townie like coag/oats. VA is still VA. I still want people to actually read him and see if they can explain his thoughts/actions. Onegu was, at the very least, set to make some case/points on Cheese. Whether I influenced that or not I dunno, but his vote doesn't come out of the blue.
LM's is funky, and I'm not entirely sold on his townieness, but I don't know that scumLM would mason me and chat that much. # of mafia masons isn't anything to go on. iirc, we also had some mafia bros pointing out LM occasionally? That may be made up. I know CC mentioned him, when saying we lynch mattchew/LM/BC.
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On December 05 2013 09:16 Pandain wrote:
I still find it hard to believe mafia gave up thread presence. For like 3 days or so.
I still find it hard to believe that if Holy was the only one making sense and arguing to lynch lurkers, they shot the utterly useless and still slightly suspicious Vayne(who by the way was suspicious of Holy).
I'm skeptical of Holy's pretty sketchy cases, going after Slam now. He was scum with slam in B2B, no? Where's the comparison. I see 6 pages in Slam's game, 19 in here. And a different playstyle. I don't like Holy's case.
I don't like how he uses defending coag as a scum tell, and yet never pinpoints coag as a lynch. Unless it was basically impossible for him to get lynched.
Making sense doesn't make a difference if people aren't listening
VA called me town
Everyone that has died has called me town
Slam REPLACED into b2b which is a MINI game and he played LURKER scum. Please fact check your assumptions.
Onegu's defence of coag was factually incorrect and out of the blue and then he straight up called him town, it is quite clearly not the only point I have brought up on him in my filter, you can read through it if you like or I can requote it all to you if you are too lazy to do it yourself before throwing out accusations.
At least I am trying to establish scum whereas you are doing nothing.
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On December 05 2013 09:21 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
disagree on holy, would only lynch grack at lylo if necessary. Alright but he was the most suspicious of you
onegu was the most suspicious on me and VA re-said that point, please don't quote out of context! Onegu is still alive and VA is dead, he was most suspicious of austin if anyone.
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Getting real suspicious of you pandain by the way, you aren't contributing at all!
On November 22 2013 02:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Only person I agree with for sure is holyflare not being scum.
A big point against thrawn is hard defending BH when he flipped assassin and it was obvious he wasn't town. Made it look like thrawn wanted credit for when he flipped town...but didn't
On November 23 2013 10:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Town: Mig, Grack, Me, Holyflare
Slightly town: Coag, Hopeless, supersoft, Oats
Slightly scum: koshi, risen, alakaslam
Scum: austinmcc, LM
unknowns: Onegu, Mr.CC, Pandain
Think that's everyone
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Hey guess who was on his not town lists!
Onegu, pandain, slam and austin!
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1 lynch on a townie that didn't get lynched -.-
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On November 30 2013 10:12 Pandain wrote:
You think Holy is mafia?
He's been posting way hardcore in both mason logs and the thread. More then most others probably in terms of content. He pushed two scum in Thrawn and BC and voted for both of them. And compare it with his scum game just now in basic, he put way less effort into that.
Seems to me he's town.
On November 30 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
I was just going off of confirmed town, mafia is a stretch. not confirmed though. the only real 2 confirmeds by play were mig/austin and one is dead now.
You can count me as confirmed based off role if you'd like, doesn't matter.
that's about it for "confirmed"
This was a conversation WITH YOU so the fact that you have misconstrued it to add to your "I want to lynch HF" case is funny, real funny. Do you expect people not to fact check these things and just go along with you, or do you want me dead because I'm the only one who is suspecting people off the thrawn lynch and think you may be scum?
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The fact of the matter is I am pretty damn confident there is a scum off of thrawn. That is you, slam and onegu. If people are seemingly saying you are town I have to default to slam and onegu. Both of whom I am pushing. Who are you actually trying to get us to lynch today?? You haven't shown us research into these people. Me and austin are trying to work things out together, going through the Risen/thrawn lynch, looking up people who were defending thrawn etc etc. That's a lot of time and effort.
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On December 05 2013 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Actually I want to re-vote Holy but it's too late now.
Forgot the "oats is super scummy but I don't want to lynch him guys"
Also I have like more pages in my filter then any scum game since I resumed playing. This is not scum Pandain. I am not that interested in the game as scum.
This doesn't even make sense, the lynch ended up being between 2 TOWNIES. What good reason would I have to throw up things like that at all as scum??? I showed my thought processes, I debated with austin and came to the conclusion that CC made a plan that revolved around lynching risen and then lied when it came down to it and switched to someone else. Oats play was just inconsistent and lackluster, which MANY MANY people told me all through the game was just lazy town oats!!
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Seriously seriously feeling a pandain wagon tomorrow.
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Back on topic, let's consolidate to someone please. I think slam/onegu/pandain are good lynches to have today.
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