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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:03 GMT
#1039
I can't write off Hopeless just yet. I can't consider inactivity a scumtell unless someone's known to do afk more as scum like Dandel Ion. He's still null to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:05 GMT
#1040
On November 16 2013 03:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
artanis do me a favour read this for me

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&user=Grackaroni&currentpage=3

tell me how that game differs from this one. Hint, grack was town in that one

Fair enough. He does seem to take the game a lot more serious there than he has been here. I checked White Flag out too though and he spent a good deal of Day 1 arguing about RNG lynching, here it was the mayor election. He was more proactive in both White Flag and Hogwarts than he has been so far though, I'll give you that. Why didn't you make this comparison immediately though?
On November 16 2013 02:53 Mig wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:


You also haven't been very useful yet this game. Who do you think is scum?


A lot of my thoughts are based off the only recent game I have played with people.

Before BC's post I was most suspicious of Grack. Now I am concerned that BC wrote out 5 paragraphs on Grack's trolling. BC should know better. Grack is still shady tho and hasn't been nearly as confident with his plays as he was in white flag.

Hopeless - Useless and already making excuses for inactivity. He was quite helpful and confident in white flag.

Mocsta- the hunt scum/for scum is possibly the dumbest argument I have ever read for why someone is scum and really seemed like he was stretching facts to make a case.


I like this post a lot. Similar thoughts on BC and Mocsta. Haven't had the experience with Hopeless yet, will look into him.


I honestly didnt notice it til after. I haven't read white flag, or hogwarts. I also don't tend to read games if I haven't played in them. At an attempt to not repeat mistakes of my last large game I was in I opted to attempt a new route given how badly my normal one was received.

That's what I thought. I'm presuming the trolling was what led you to investigate him to begin with. It leads to a desire of you for him to want to be scum so you search for a good reason to lynch him. There is some merit to your case, but I feel it's too padded and the actual core doesn't hold enough water for me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:13 GMT
#1046
That's nice Hopeless, but who is scum? The Rayn/Risen thing, Rayn said he'd ignore Risen for D1 and HF extrapolated from that that Rayn considered Risen town. It's not an unreasonable extrapolation and I don't think it's that important.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:16 GMT
#1050
On November 16 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 16 2013 03:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's nice Hopeless, but who is scum? The Rayn/Risen thing, Rayn said he'd ignore Risen for D1 and HF extrapolated from that that Rayn considered Risen town. It's not an unreasonable extrapolation and I don't think it's that important.

That's not my point which you should know if you read the case.

It was one of your points, and it's the point Hopeless brought up, or do you mean that Risen kept bringing it up after you clarified it? I can't make that out from your paragraph.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:24 GMT
#1054
Ah, I presume you're alluding to this post.
On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.


I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.

Do you see a scum motivation for doing this though? It's guaranteed that he'll get called out on it by you, and he's already backing off and not trying to get you lynched anymore. It seems more like an oversight from a town player whom is trying to explain why he originally voted for you. I don't see how it's beneficial for scum to keep saying you called Risen town when it's been proven factually incorrect. There's no benefit to it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:31 GMT
#1060
On November 16 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Ah, I presume you're alluding to this post.
On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.


I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.

Do you see a scum motivation for doing this though? It's guaranteed that he'll get called out on it by you, and he's already backing off and not trying to get you lynched anymore. It seems more like an oversight from a town player whom is trying to explain why he originally voted for you. I don't see how it's beneficial for scum to keep saying you called Risen town when it's been proven factually incorrect. There's no benefit to it.

The point is he is not even reading my posts regarding Risen and that's one of his reasons why he called me scum for.
Would you not read your scumreads posts on something you called him scum for?

It's happened to me before. Sometimes one gets lazy. A main reason I'm defending him in any case is because I've been able to follow his thought process in how he became suspicious of you and of how he dropped that suspicion since I had the same evolution in reads with similar reasoning. Given you consider HF scum, do you consider me scum as well?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#1064
On November 16 2013 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
In other news I think artanis? said that hopeless' lack of posting couldn't be so alignment indicative but @artanis,what do you think of what i said earlier about his play in hogwarts/other town games? It is remarkably different even for such a low amount and it's effectively contentless. I think there's a good chance of hitting scum if we lynch him.

I have no recollection of if there's a systematic correlation between his activity and his alignment. I haven't played enough games with him to make that judgement. It's always possible that someone's simply doesn't have the time. That said, Hopeless' return to the thread was underwhelming at best.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 18:47 GMT
#1075
I don't have a single scumread of the following players and would like to hear from them their answer to two very simple questions:
1. Who is scum?
2. Why?
The following players are: Mattchew, Koshi (!!, already has 3 pages of filter), Storrzerg, Skanjab1s, hiro protagonist, Hopeless1der, Stutters695, Spaghetticus, VayneAuthority, Mr. Cheesecake, and BlazingHand.
Some of these haven't posted yet but I want them to tell me as soon as they've caught up.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1088
On November 16 2013 04:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't have a single scumread of the following players and would like to hear from them their answer to two very simple questions:
1. Who is scum?
2. Why?
The following players are: Mattchew, Koshi (!!, already has 3 pages of filter), Storrzerg, Skanjab1s, hiro protagonist, Hopeless1der, Stutters695, Spaghetticus, VayneAuthority, Mr. Cheesecake, and BlazingHand.
Some of these haven't posted yet but I want them to tell me as soon as they've caught up.

From the vets/actives I am not a supersoft fan. I said why.
I am still waiting on follow ups/more posts from others.

It was only critique on his lack of followup on his Mayoral platform, didn't feel like actual accusations to me.
On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today.

I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though.

On November 16 2013 04:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
seems odd to try and force scum reads out of people lol, full discretion will never be provided on my part

I didn't know it was weird to try and get information out of people so I can read them and possibly evolve my own reads too. Your resistance has been noted.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 19:41 GMT
#1091
On November 16 2013 04:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
just seems like you picking through the garbage votes to see where you should head for a mislynch, it's not a good look

Or I'm trying to get a read on people who haven't posted anything of use yet such as yourself. Is your resistance to my question based on mistrust or laziness, I wonder?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 19:58 GMT
#1103
On November 16 2013 04:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
just seems like you picking through the garbage votes to see where you should head for a mislynch, it's not a good look

Or I'm trying to get a read on people who haven't posted anything of use yet such as yourself. Is your resistance to my question based on mistrust or laziness, I wonder?


I have an excellent idea, LETS CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

If you were given three little birds, what would they say?

They would sing in unison about the great dodge of VA, and the awful uncertainty of the colour of his blood that follows from it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 15 2013 20:03 GMT
#1106
On November 16 2013 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today.

I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 10:55 GMT
#1489
On November 16 2013 19:39 OOHCHILD wrote:
Mig
StorrZerg
hiro protagonist
austinmcc
Risen
yamato77
Alakaslam
BlazingHand

i can explain any of these. probably only a good idea to ask for those explanations if you think for some reason im scum though

I'd rather know why you think these guys are scum, particularly Mig, Austin and Yamato because I disagree with all three of those and if someone has scumspects I don't agree with and haven't been discussed at length yet I'd like to know why.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 12:28 GMT
#1505
My nickname is not Artanix[Xp]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 12:34 GMT
#1510
On November 16 2013 21:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
My nickname is not Artanix[Xp]


Is it Art?

It's Artanis the sexy handsome amazing good looking hero of towniness.
What do you make of BC?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 12:35 GMT
#1511
On November 16 2013 21:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
My nickname is not Artanix[Xp]


What would you like to be called hunnykins?

works for me babe <3
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 12:53 GMT
#1516
Anyone else around to bounce reads with? I'm feeling a bit of one on one read bouncing but Onegu doesn't seem to be capable of that right now on his phone
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 13:03 GMT
#1519
On November 16 2013 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyone else around to bounce reads with? I'm feeling a bit of one on one read bouncing but Onegu doesn't seem to be capable of that right now on his phone


I am semi here, who do you want to talk about?

The idea is to bounce reads off of one another. I ask you about someone, you answer me and ask me about someone. What do you think about BC?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 13:18 GMT
#1527
On November 16 2013 22:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why and why?

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
November 16 2013 13:23 GMT
#1533
On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?

How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually.

Town wants scum dead, assassin wants assassin dead. An assassin isn't as interested in finding scum as he is in finding the other assassin.
I don't think VE would attract this much attention to him if he was though, especially with this mayoral campaign. Can't imagine the bulletproof works vs an assassin shot given they only have one shot.
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