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On November 19 2013 02:26 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._. Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo.. /dunked Thrawn answer this post immediately. You are not allowed to call Grack scum until you debunk this argument. Dude ILL ANSWER you misconstruing fish. I'm VT and I expect notification if I'm roleblocked until you bring up this so solid bull case. BH just as likely to be setup unawares. Dude you been spamming and pushing what I see as a mislynch and not listening to people according to them (I don't have your mason qt's) Not liking it at all had you solid town now I vote you.
And i am telling you you have not read OP which says roleblocks are not notified.
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So here is where we are at the moment.
Grackaroni is scum because he accused a mafia of being mafia on D1 and the mafioso got mad at him. That can't be nothing but a bus, obviously. That said mafioso set himself up into a situation where he can't do anything on D2 but to bus Grackaroni because he has no other scumreads. And that said mafioso's meta suggests that he does not want to talk about his scumbuddies at all because he is uncomfortable about doing so.
Then Blazinghand is town because he makes a really good case (see above paragraph) on Grackaroni and has not done anything else in this game besides fakeclaiming left and right. Then he scumslipped in thread by saying he knew he was not roleblocked. He actually scumsilpped in same manner in last game where he claimed doctor and claimed he protected Sno_man two nights in a row while having said he can't protect same person two nights in a row earlier. But obviously all this can be explained because Blazinghand did not read the OP, that is definitely the only possible explanation. And Blazinghand has to be town because of it, also remember the case on Grackaroni.
This seems like a good case of Grack being scum and BH being town, doesn't it?
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These people are hilarious. I gotta go buy some beer and warm up sauna. cya soon babycakes <3
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On November 19 2013 02:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Raynepelikoneet also pinned Koshi town for the same thing he pins BH scum.
This is not true Slam. I'll explain it to you:
I have my own ways of reading Koshi.
My case against Blazinghand:
1) He hasn't done shit besides fakeclaiming and making a case on Grack. The case on Grack is shit as i have explained.
2) Him retracting from his claim makes no sense. Here are the possibilities and the outcomes:
- Blazinghand is a tracker - makes no sense to retract from the claim, therefore bullshit
- Blazinghand is another blue (barring mason) - makes no sense to claim tracker in the first place, bullshit
- Blazinghand is vanilla town - could be that he didn't read the OP, but other points on him are damning and this is not the only point against him. Also what he has talked with thrawn in mason QT this is bullshit imo because what he has told thrawn makes no sense. It only makes sense if he thought thrawn was scum which by what thrawn has told me doesn't sound like being the case
- Blazinghand is mason - if that is the case one of Visceraeyes and thrawn is scum with Blazinghand and Blazinghand is a scum mason and i can 100% prove it!
- Blazinghand is some other scum
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On November 19 2013 02:49 Mig wrote:
This is kind of a random thought I had reading through but right now I would guess pandain is town. With BH's fake claim this seems like the perfect time for mafia to hammer him either as a bus since they dont lose kp and he must look like a retard to them or to mislynch a townie while facing no real consequences. The fact that pandain pushed hard for BH then backtracked on it instead of piling on with everyone else seems more like a townie mindset to me.
This is not necessarily true if Blazinghand is going to do what i think he is.
Wait for more, this is gonna be an interesting phase when BH comes here. 
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On November 19 2013 03:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This entire dayish roughly. IE the main people posting. Opinions on Rayne, pandain, thrawn, hopelessness
Realistically I know you have your notes but it would be nice to see you being active rather than popping out randomly to say things and vanish.
I honestly do think the reactions to grack and artanis are worlds apart. But then again thats my opinion. Keep in mind this is purely off a filter. Can you say honestly if you ignore mocstas entire filter/ignore he flipped red then look at grack the guy looks good? Nothing he has done this game aside from attack mocsta looks decent at all IMO.
Seriously. Any thoughts on anything would be nice about whats gone on in the last say 10-20 pages.
How can you ask people to ignore Mocsta's filter and look into Grack when your whole case on Grack is based on how Mocsta talked to him. WTF MAN?
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On November 19 2013 03:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 19 2013 03:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This entire dayish roughly. IE the main people posting. Opinions on Rayne, pandain, thrawn, hopelessness
Realistically I know you have your notes but it would be nice to see you being active rather than popping out randomly to say things and vanish.
I honestly do think the reactions to grack and artanis are worlds apart. But then again thats my opinion. Keep in mind this is purely off a filter. Can you say honestly if you ignore mocstas entire filter/ignore he flipped red then look at grack the guy looks good? Nothing he has done this game aside from attack mocsta looks decent at all IMO.
Seriously. Any thoughts on anything would be nice about whats gone on in the last say 10-20 pages. How can you ask people to ignore Mocsta's filter and look into Grack when your whole case on Grack is based on how Mocsta talked to him. WTF MAN? for day 2 yes? Did I not make a case on him day 1 that didn't operate on that ? Has he done anything TO FUCKING CHANGE THAT. NO HE HASN'T. Seriously, just seriously. Do you even fucking read?
It's because your meta-analysis in your mind should in my opinion make Grackaroni town and not scum. Because if Mocsta lived over the night he has absolutely no other possibility than to call Grackaroni scum. And you said he hates to talk about his scumbuddies. You are saying the opposite compared to your meta-analysis. When i proved this you are now asking us to ignore Mocsta's filter (why? because at first it was the SOLE REASON you called Grack scum for).
This does not make any sense to me. Your read and case on Grackaroni changes from one thing to another when your original case is proven wrong.
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Grack - was one of his top two scum reads. Venomously attacks him. Only way he can be concievably scum is if grack bussed him for some reason. Reactions from mocsta would only make sense in that case. Still very unlikely given no sane person would bus their own vig.
Like you go from this to "Grack definitely bussed Mocsta and vice versa while Mocsta's meta says the opposite".
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So here is the deal:
On November 17 2013 10:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
So to review:
LoneMeow - mason
Skanjab1s - mason
My Mason - mason
HIS Mason - mason
Pandain - mason
I ask VE why he did out his mason to another mason. He answers this:
On November 17 2013 10:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's not a concern. The other guy knew already. Also mason isn't a "role" in this game, it's a modifier remember?
If there are no other masons than what VE lists here here is the deal. thrawn has masoned BH on N1. Therefore BH is mason too and masoned VE. Now how does this make VE or thrawn scum?
I asked thrawn to paraphrase his mason log with BH. He did not tell anything about BH masoning VE, yet VE in this post implies they all three know each other. Someone is lying. Also when i figured this might be the case, i told to thrawn in our mason chat that "dude, if BH is mason i can tell you one of you/VE is scum and tbh you look fucking terrible". After that thrawn went really defensive and started saying BH is town and that i should go read Grackaroni. I told him to calm down because if he is not lying there is nothing to worry about. He just has continued this Grack tunnel and keeps telling me BH is town. Fishy much?
If BH is mason who has masoned VE on D1/N1 one of VE/thrawn is scum and i bet it's thrawn based on his behavior after this all.
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Also 2/3 of these people know the truth. They also know it outs scum if they out this in thread. Therefore 2/3 of them has to be scum and BH has to be one of them because he is 100% one of the liars.
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If VE is lying thrawn would have told it to me and we would lynch VE. BH has to lying in this scenario. Therefore VE has no idea that thrawn has not not told about this to me and thrawn is lying too.
So if BH has masoned VE on D1/N1 BH and thrawn are both scum.
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On November 19 2013 03:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also 2/3 of these people know the truth. They also know it outs scum if they out this in thread. Therefore 2/3 of them has to be scum and BH has to be one of them because he is 100% one of the liars. The problem is that you're operating from a presumption that these are all the masons there are in the game. What if there are more?
I am saying if BH is a mason who masoned VE on D1/N1 BH and thrawn are 100% scum because thay are bullshitting.
If BH was not the mason who masoned VE then this scenario is invalid, but it does not make BH town.
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Alakaslam is your team falling apart?
Can you post baby seals instead?
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Mig:
If VE comes in and says BH is the mason who masoned him i can tell you i am 100% certain in what i am saying. There is more evidence which i am not willing to reveal yet in case of something that i have not taken into account happnening.
You're looking really good because you seem to be a dude who actually looks this stuff objectively. Lead the town with me and Artanis okay? ^_^
Also what do you think of supersoft? He waffled on some bullshit balancecrap earlier on today, then said he'll look into BH and disappeared.
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Hopeless can you give your opinions on supersoft and Holyflare?
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Artanis, could you read my case on HF and tell me what do you think about it. Like really read. Because all the people misread the risen-accusation on D1 and i kinda did not give a shit to explain it better.
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Mig: I think hopeless wanted to say scum instead of town. ^^
Artanis: Holyflare is really contributive and can appear as town as scum too. He did really good job in Hogwarts as looking like town before he made a bad claim and syllogism caught him for it. Even then he survived for some phases because his posting was really good. He is a good scumplayer i think and "tone" and "i think he would not say this as scum" reasons do not make him town.
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On November 19 2013 04:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF being afk gives me pause, but I'm one to talk about inactivty, right? Your case isnt the greatest on him rayne. My read hasnt really changed, I have HF as town right now.
Super is town atm. For stupid reasons that will get me laughed at. Everyone is yelling that he's too mean, and all of a sudden his posts are full of smilies and shit. I read his Oats case and was like wtf is he drunk?
Yes i laugh at this post but i kinda think you are town for it (and other reasons) based on WC2 
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Onegu i suggest you read the thread before posting. I have no idea what your last post is about..
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On November 19 2013 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mig: I think hopeless wanted to say scum instead of town. ^^
Artanis: Holyflare is really contributive and can appear as town as scum too. He did really good job in Hogwarts as looking like town before he made a bad claim and syllogism caught him for it. Even then he survived for some phases because his posting was really good. He is a good scumplayer i think and "tone" and "i think he would not say this as scum" reasons do not make him town. I do not see anything that explicitly makes him scum though. I've read your original case and I don't think it's strong enough when looking at the overall picture. His read on you and Mocsta mirrored mine too much for me to consider him anything than a town read right now. If he's scum, there's plenty of days worth of material still to come.
I made a new case on him on D2 start where i tired to explain myself better. Well it's not important atm, as we are not gonna lynch him either way i think but i suggest you read that one too.
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