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D1 Lynch Skanjab1s, Town Mason, was lynched! N1 Kills Sharrant, Town Doctor, was killed! Spaghetticus, Town Tracker, was killed! yamato77, Town Tracker, was killed! StorrZerg, Vanilla Townie, was killed! Mocsta, Mafia 2-shot Vigilante, was killed! D2 Lynch BlazingHand, Assassin, was lynched! VisceraEyes, Mayor Assassin, abandoned town to its own devices! Stutters695, Vanilla Townie, was modkilled! N2 Kills OOHCHILD, Town Nosy Neighbour, was killed! Mattchew, Vanilla Townie, was killed! Artanis[Xp], Town 2-shot Vigilante, was killed! D3 Lynch BloodyC0bbler, Mafia Doctor Mason, was lynched! raynpelikoneet, Town Nosy Neighbour, was lynched! N3 Kills supersoft, Town Pardoner Mason Roleblocker, was killed! D4 Lynch thrawn2112, Mafia Mason, was lynched! N4 Kills Koshi, Vanilla Townie, was killed!
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+ Show Spoiler + D1 Lynch Skanjab1s, Town Mason, was lynched! N1 Kills Sharrant, Town Doctor, was killed! Spaghetticus, Town Tracker, was killed! yamato77, Town Tracker, was killed! StorrZerg, Vanilla Townie, was killed! Mocsta, Mafia 2-shot Vigilante, was killed! D2 Lynch BlazingHand, Assassin, was lynched! VisceraEyes, Mayor Assassin, abandoned town to its own devices! Stutters695, Vanilla Townie, was modkilled! N2 Kills OOHCHILD, Town Nosy Neighbour, was killed! Mattchew, Vanilla Townie, was killed! Artanis[Xp], Town 2-shot Vigilante, was killed! D3 Lynch BloodyC0bbler, Mafia Doctor Mason, was lynched! raynpelikoneet, Town Nosy Neighbour, was lynched! N3 Kills supersoft, Town Pardoner Mason Roleblocker, was killed! D4 Lynch thrawn2112, Mafia Mason, was lynched! N4 Kills Koshi, Vanilla Townie, was killed!
Don't know why I had to summarize that but there it is.
List of players who are left from scum to town and my thoughts on them.
Onegu - Don't know why I have to put two /b here to bold the name but anyways... active in other game not active here or something apparently. Also his reads don't develop in anything resembling a logical manner. Useless. Oatsmaster - SS top scum read. Making sense = scum Oats. Really bad vibes. LoneMeow - Super lurk mode activate! Logs don't make him look good. Useless. Coagulation - Useless. Case actually has been made against him. I don't really have any feelings on him. Probably a bad thing. Hopeless1der - Useless. No feelings on him. Probably a bad thing. If someone asked me to list players in this game from memory I wouldn't remember his name at all. austinmcc - I don't buy his Risen town to Risen scum shift. Nothing changed during the time he made the shift, and if you look at his posting he just moves right along towards me being scum. Alakaslam - Wish there was an area between bolded and unbolded null b/c he'd go there. I don't trust his laziness. His trolling stuff is too cool to be truly lazy. Pandain - Meh, after the smackdown he just gave me for calling out his logic on SB I like him a lot more. Would take some serious balls to do that as scum when you know I'm town. VayneAuthority - Holds to his MH claim way too hard, and I still maintain that his town reads on Thrawn and I were really weird. Not much else I don't like about him, though. Holyflare - Can't remember why I dropped my scum read on him. I was fine with his case against coag, seems to be holding to it without tunneling. Just wants people to talk about it. I can dig it. Grackaroni - Super bus of bussing would be a really good strategy. Probably worth a look into at mylo. Mr. Cheesecake - The pro-town lurker. I think he lurked and then delurked while playing pro-town. Only null because of lurkness. Mig - Stroked my ego and in spite oh how annoying I found him kept a cool head instead of poking me like scum would. Only null b/c of Mattchew shot. Risen - I know I'm town.
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On November 27 2013 15:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Well Risen, if you didnt martyr and you played like you wanted to lynch scum and win the game, you probably wouldnt be in this position.
What do you think about Hopeless and Onegu? There are like 3-4 people that I would lynch after Coag and thats way too many.
There's quite a bit but the fact that I can understand his play recently is what's concerning to me.
And as for the LM logs I mean his talk about BC and lack thereof is what concerns me. A lurking mason seems bad. A mason should be able to come into the thread with reads otherwise not available to people like me because they've had the opportunity to go 1 on 1 with someone. LM hasn't done this.
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On November 28 2013 09:17 austinmcc wrote: A lot changed during the shift, Risen.
You kept your vote on yourself, despite the "town needs to lynch scum in order to drop KP" argument being made multiple times. For all your posting, you seem to have no actual desire to do pro-town stuff, just post things to go through.
Why do LM's logs look bad? Here's my problem, my vote was on myself during those arguments as well and at the time those arguments were made you still had me as town. So again, nothing really changed except me being afk during the time when Thrawn got lynched.
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On November 28 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 09:42 Risen wrote:On November 28 2013 09:17 austinmcc wrote: A lot changed during the shift, Risen.
You kept your vote on yourself, despite the "town needs to lynch scum in order to drop KP" argument being made multiple times. For all your posting, you seem to have no actual desire to do pro-town stuff, just post things to go through.
Why do LM's logs look bad? Here's my problem, my vote was on myself during those arguments as well and at the time those arguments were made you still had me as town. So again, nothing really changed except me being afk during the time when Thrawn got lynched. The most important thing that changed is that we lynched mafia and they only have 1 KP. Your filter, specifically because of the D3 no-vote on pandain, looked less likely to be mafia than thrawn. It was an odd angle, you didn't place what could have been a very mafia-favored vote if Pandain is town (and based on the votes, he most likely is). But the KP difference is the biggest thing that changed. I don't care so much today if people want to lynch or mislynch you, because on the off chance you're a mislynch, we stopped the bonus KP. But the way you conducted your posts and your votes over the last little bit isn't townie. It's not an afk issue, because you responded to having to be informed as to why lynching mafia and not martyrs was important yesterday. Despite responding to post(s) about dropping KP, you didn't move your vote. That's not afk, it's just purely not caring about town if, as you say, you're town. To scum, or not to scum, that is the question.
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EBWOP: Anywho, you're fairly convinced and set in stone. Just don't let him pull the "town Risen wouldn't do that guys how could I have known! HODOR HODOR" schtick.
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Also, keep on disregarding that Onegu still hasn't voted. To me that says he missed the whole possible 24 hour day post from marv b/c he decided to wait and see if another wagon would start off of me just like the Thrawn one did so he can get in on that.
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On November 26 2013 22:40 Onegu wrote: HF post why I am scum please.
Austin town if risen town,
HF and Koshi still scum.
Still plan on voteing risen again when day starts. To many question marks without his flip. And still like SS dead man read on risen, plus BC shennanagins. The bolded line says everything you'll ever need to know about Onegu. There's no way he could possibly make a read like that as town.
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On November 26 2013 21:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 26 2013 19:43 Koshi wrote:On November 26 2013 19:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi why MUST there be 1 scum on yamato? Lets say Yamato is campaigning to kill a scum and there are alternatives like VE and Super who dont. Why as scum do I vote for Yamato out of VE or Super, BOTH TOWN?
Look. There is no rational explanation for this shit. But scum always splits up. Also with thrawn on himself and Mocsta on himself I am inclined to believe that Onegu is town. It's the worst kind of scumhunting but when we don't know where to look or we are looking for last scummer that is a good way to search imo. 2 on themselves, one on Yamato, last 3 on ss and VE. Like show me 100 early lynches/mayor votes/ w.evs and you will see 99 times that scum split up rather nicely. The worst kind of scumhunting is when you assuming something that is actually REALLY UNLIKELY. Yamato wants to kill the 2 SHOT VIG. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND VOTES FOR THAT MAYOR. I could agree with you if either SS or VE were scum, but they arent. So, therefore, there isnt even any kinda association that mafia would put themselves under by NOT voting for yamato. supersoft wanted to kill Mocsta. Yamato wanted to kill: 1. BH 2. Onegu 3. Austin This is why Koshi died btw, imo.
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Yup, choo choo.
##unvote ##vote: Onegu
Driving to Vegas, no longer at computer but still present. Just don't expect me to be able to do stuff like make giant list posts until tomorrow morning.
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On November 28 2013 10:19 Pandain wrote: Still not as scummy as risen Why?
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I agreed that the amount of KP mattered. I was just afk when the thrawn thing went down or I would have moved my vote to him. What can ya do, though. vOv
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On November 28 2013 10:32 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 10:23 Risen wrote: I agreed that the amount of KP mattered. I was just afk when the thrawn thing went down or I would have moved my vote to him. What can ya do, though. vOv Cuz it did. Unfortunately, you were throwing around statements earlier today about how it didn't matter that I wanted to lynch thrawn, as he was going to be lynched anyway in a day or two. See posts like this: Show nested quote +On November 27 2013 15:22 Risen wrote: Ninja. Thrawn was going down anyways, austin wasn't instrumental in shit. You can't afk in a thread and be active in another one then expect to live more than a day or two. The fact that rayn got lynched over pandain or thrawn is pants on head stupid. I don't care what VA claimed, his bombs never blew up. How do we know there isn't an unclaimed hatter left? ((That feels stupid after I've typed it out)) Seems like a solid fake claim to me with so much blue running around. Why does there need to be every role in the game? Seems to me VA is harping on this over and over to confirm himself town instead of actually doing anything, which is annoying. I've had similar feelings about mig, but mig stroked my ego and said he enjoyed playing with me so I like him now. Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 02:50 Risen wrote: Thrawn was getting lynched yesterday or today no matter what. Thrawn was getting lynched no matter what. Why do you people keep giving town points for a forced vote? Oh he totally could have helped thrawn live another day! Yeah, and then everyone on me instead of thrawn gets lynched and scum loses. It isn't scummy to have voted for thrawn, but it certainly isn't townie either. I know I'm just pointlessly arguing with scumRisen at this point, but at least have some dignity ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) . You cannot argue all of these three things: - The amount of KP matters
- Risen is town
- Thrawn getting lynched yesterday does not matter, because he would have been lynched eventually
If the first two things are true, then thrawn getting lynched DOES matter. If the first and third things are true, then the second isn't, because the only way thrawn getting lynched doesn't matter is if we would have lynched scum anyway. The second and third statements can both be true, but only if KP dropping doesn't matter. I uhh... I don't see the contradiction in what I've said...
All I said was you weren't instrumental in the Thrawn lynch. Like, that's it.
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On November 28 2013 11:28 austinmcc wrote: Risen, you seem to be implying in your posts that pushing thrawn and trying to get him lynched yesterday, getting folks to vote him, is alignment-neutral because thrawn would be lynched later on anyway.
If that's not the case, you have curious scumreads. That's pretty much 100% what I'm implying/have said openly.
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To expand upon what I'm saying, since this seems to be a difficult concept, I'm saying 1 more KP was not worth the town cred scum players stood to gain by lynching Thrawn, especially when I was still available to be lynched.
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EBWOP: To spell it out in cases of extreme mental incompetence
Option 1 I am lynched yesterday > scum get an additional kill or remove a vet shield Thrawn lynched today > people go back and look at who was on me, the reasons why, etc (they do this for other people as well and actually scum hunt)
Option 2 Thrawn lynched yesterday > scum only kill 1 person I am lynched today > scum get a mislynch, but now a whole day has been wasted and no one is actively scum hunting. On top of this, people who lynched Thrawn get that juicy town cred, while those who were on me the first day look more suspect.
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On November 28 2013 11:44 Holyflare wrote: With in-depth reasoning, why what they did was scummy at x point in time, etc etc. You're not going to get it. If you do get it, it will be right before I'm lynched. I'm driving to Vegas to visit with my sister and then it's Thanksgiving. I've already given up on being alive this game (see yesterday) I don't know why you think I'm going to put in that much effort when everyone else hasn't all day. You're the only one who actually made a case HF.
"Oh but you're the one up for lynch Risen!" Yeah, I don't give a shit.
PYP GET HYPE
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On November 28 2013 11:45 Pandain wrote: Stop talking to risen and focus on other things Cmon man, I had you as not bold black :<
On November 28 2013 11:46 Pandain wrote: I want to hear from Vayne why he thinks oats is town because he called him one of the townie at people in the game. Yes, let's do that instead of actually do anything ourselves. Yes, YES, BRILLIANT!
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On November 28 2013 11:50 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 11:46 Pandain wrote: I want to hear from Vayne why he thinks oats is town because he called him one of the townie at people in the game. me and oats are on the scumteam so im hard defending him ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Riq1ieO.jpg) Scum claim omg! Let's fill the thread with troll shit and create mass chaos so the discussion people are having with Risen gets swallowed CHOO CHOO!
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