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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 15:42 GMT
#6133
Oh shit thats the thing that I was going to do!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 16:26 GMT
#6152
It's simple, SS was a rber and mason and pardoner and basically a vet. There is no way they could leave him in when most probably we are on the right track on who to lynch. That doesn't mean his reads are right or wrong it's just there's a definite risk in leaving him alive. Look how many blues have died so far, their strategy was clearly blue sniping and the majority of people left are only VT's and 2 vets.

I don't think I need to make a case on thrawn do I? It should be pretty obvious from his vote alone that he is scum. As for risen, he is also a liability like he said. What I argued with risen about yesterday was also pretty self confirming. He attacked me for telling the truth. I would much rather kill thrawn over risen first though because I feel very sure about him compared to risen.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 16:27 GMT
#6153
Rayn lynch was definitely very suspicious though. His vote jumping aside, he filter was huge even when in 2 games and his day 2 was pretty much town rayn play, like everyone was saying. How did people manage to get him up there??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#6167
On November 25 2013 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 23:45 Holyflare wrote:
Is nobody going to point out how thrawn was all buddy buddy to BC all game and saying he liked his posts and then guess where his vote ended up? Yeh, on BC.

##Vote: Thrawn

This is the 'airtight' case?
It makes him town if Risen is scum.


Please explain how that makes sense?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#6171
I fail to see how scum people doing different things implies that they are different alignments.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#6172
I can see 1 of them trying to start a counter wagon (risen) in the hopes of drawing people off but if every scum suddenly went hey yeh this is wrong then they would get lynched so fast that your point makes no sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 19:31 GMT
#6188
On November 25 2013 04:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
you aren't going to be convinced by my style of play just like most people here so it's fruitless, I can already tell. I'm just going to wait until lynch.


I like you.... but I have to agree with mig about thrawn, he is way too inconsistent. He called BC's really shitty post on lurkers that was aggressive "good post" and was buddying up to him all throughout the days. God damn do I actually have to make a case on this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 19:35 GMT
#6190
1)Carefree style does not indicate alignment, in fact it is more likely to come from scum because they don't want to serious mode into the game by reading it because that is a lot of effort.

2) Push on austin and push on you? That's great, 2 people that were already thought to be scum.

3)Questions, questions? Where are his answers?

All of those 3 points prove anything BUT him being towny.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 19:37 GMT
#6191
Like, he doesn't push BC at all and then suddenly it's his top scum read... because he definitely voted him. That is not what a towny does that is what scum wanting free credit do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 19:43 GMT
#6192
Then there's everyone that was on rayn:


raynpelikoneet (6): Alakaslam, Koshi, Mr Cheesecake, Pandain, Koshi, Pandain, Alakaslam, Risen, austinmcc


Mr.cc, koshi, pandain, slam, risen, austin

Why would you ever vote rayn!? I seriously think we should be voting into these people too. Or at least generate more discussion around them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 19:48 GMT
#6193
but bla bla, I was confident about risen yesterday and nothing has changed about him anyway as he's most definitely dropped off the face of the earth even though he isn't dead yet -.-

##Vote: Risen
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 21:10 GMT
#6204
On November 25 2013 06:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
Then there's everyone that was on rayn:


raynpelikoneet (6): Alakaslam, Koshi, Mr Cheesecake, Pandain, Koshi, Pandain, Alakaslam, Risen, austinmcc


Mr.cc, koshi, pandain, slam, risen, austin

Why would you ever vote rayn!? I seriously think we should be voting into these people too. Or at least generate more discussion around them.

I think this is a scum tactic frankly.

Rayn was practically playing for scum.


Yeh, only if you hadn't read the thread did he appear like that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 21:59 GMT
#6218
On November 25 2013 06:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Scum always misconstrue. You have to to win. I am just surprised how commonly it isn't seen when it is happening.


Yes, but he is also correct. Rayn, the main reason for your lack of contribution is gone. So where are your reads, where is your input on the current situation and where should we be going next?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 22:02 GMT
#6220
On November 25 2013 06:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Yet this hardening to Rayne all the time is scummy too and I hate being suckered into it. Just let it be known that VA and HF are apparently basing their reads on a mislynch!

And that actually doesn't mean they are scum. Let it be determined later. For today the lynch is essentially set on Risen, for better or worse.


You talk about scum being the ones to misconstrue but you just did the same thing in this post. Risen is on the rayn lynch but we have reasons as to why we are on him other than that, heck he was my vote yesterday. We are trying to discuss the people on the lynch too not outright kill them. Where is your input other than "oh scum would like to do that"?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 22:06 GMT
#6221
because currently, in fact, i think it's only me and va who WANT to discuss the rayn candidates because everyone else seems to be trying to get us off those people. That is the scummy thing to do IMO.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 22:09 GMT
#6224
No...? I want to DISCUSS the people who were on the rayn wagon that doesn't mean other discussion can't occur.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#6225
On November 25 2013 07:08 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
because currently, in fact, i think it's only me and va who WANT to discuss the rayn candidates because everyone else seems to be trying to get us off those people. That is the scummy thing to do IMO.

What would be the townie way of discouraging error?


Actively providing conversation, discussing their motives for lynching rayn, providing information on other people on the rayn wagon on why they are/aren't scummy. Playing the actual game, giving us direction other than "lynch ss targets", you know, game solving tactics?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 23:34 GMT
#6237
Post at end of day - cause confusion - mislynch
Post now - discussions - right lynch


You are town and post at end of day - cause confusion - mislynch you/another towny = 2 nightkills = 3 town deaths
You are town and post now - discussion - avoid possible mislynch = 1 night kill = 1 town death
You are scum and post now - discussion - you die = 1 night kill = 1 town death
You are scum and post later - cause confusion - possible mislynch = 2 night kills = 3 town deaths


How is your option choice the one that = post later, that is the worst scenario.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 23:34 GMT
#6238
On November 25 2013 08:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
For a "pretty important" lynch you (and a lot of people) are quite content to slap a vote on Risen and then nope the fuck out of the thread.


So where are your reads to "save" risen then, angry man?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 24 2013 23:50 GMT
#6244
On November 25 2013 08:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Everyone voting Risen, if you're town this is unacceptable because SS has proven himself to be completely untrustworthy. BC has proven himself capable of fooling the guy you are sheeping. You can't all be scum, so what gives?


It's as if you haven't read a god damn thing in this game, there are more reasons to vote risen than sheeping SS or BC's move. Mig outlined them pretty well, many people were also clearly on risen before the lynch too. Why don't you prove to us that he isn't scum because quite clearly we all think he is and risen himself is martyring, so even he is wrong?
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