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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#2783
I think he promised reads on the resolution period which he obviously failed to deliver. So i don't give a fuck what he says about Mocsta now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 01:52 GMT
#2786
He once said he could "most likely lynch Mocsta on D2" without explaining it in any way other than "weak case on Storr". He never even brings Mocsta up in his filter so i have a hard time understanding why Mocsta would have been his top scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#2788
On November 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If people can't understand these simple things then my work is done here and i can quit this game:

1) Holyflare says i called Risen town. I didn't, i explained it. After that Holyflare still says i called Risen town. This means he has either not read my posts (which is unbelieveable because he thought i was scum for it) or he has read my posts and arguing about bullshit. If he had read my posts he should have called me out for making up bullshit but he didn't. Instead he twisted the argument into something i have never said - in any case what Holyflare says i did is not true - he is making shit up for some reason and townies do not make shit up.

2) He made a big ass campaign for running for mayor. He never followed those points he brought up and the campaign was shit in the first place. He never did try to convince anyone someone is scum. He never tried to get anyone lynched. He never tried to convince the other candidates someone was scum. He doesn't even have scumreads it seems because he is not talking about them.

3) His read on me changed for no reason. None of the reasons he called me scum for "went away". The only thing that happened was i made some reads (which he did call bad).

4) That's all he has done this game.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#2789
##Vote: Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 02:41 GMT
#2795
gotcha thrawn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:06 GMT
#2796
Oats is there any reason you are not even trying to have a read on me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:21 GMT
#2798
I approve that BH is not a good lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:23 GMT
#2800
Because he has said quite townie things.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:28 GMT
#2802
austin's filter is a big pile of nothing. There is nothing more to explain.

If we lynch BH and he flips town can we lynch you next?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:39 GMT
#2807
On November 18 2013 12:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
BH is likely red given the fact 3 trackers would be a bit much. Also given his insane lack of serious contributions this game would put him very likely in the scum camp.

as for people mentioned in mocstas Filter.

Bc- Defends me when people were suggesting to lynch me. I view this as a scum ploy to buddy up to me but recognize it makes me look bad
Grack - was one of his top two scum reads. Venomously attacks him. Only way he can be concievably scum is if grack bussed him for some reason. Reactions from mocsta would only make sense in that case. Still very unlikely given no sane person would bus their own vig.
HF - mentions him as a null read
Kush - has very friendly interactions with. No real serious comments were involved. Null read at best
storrzerg - was his #1 scum read. Doesn't matter as storr flipped town and mocsta claimed the shot before dying.
mattchew - Calls mattchew town based on meta from previous games.
Lonemeow - defends LM from people and attacks them for potentially driving him out of the game.

He had some aggressive conversations with artanis. Attempts to hold conversation with both austin, rayn and spag.

I really do not like this post. Where are the conclusions?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:39 GMT
#2809
On November 18 2013 12:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I approve that BH is not a good lynch.



Why? He hasn't actively scum hunting, claimed a role that doesn't make sense with two flipped trackers and semi trolled. Nothing has really added up in his favour. We have one flipped scum who went out of his way to ignore him.

If not him, who would you recommend as your #1 lynch?

I have my vote on Holyflare and posted a case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 03:41 GMT
#2810
On November 18 2013 02:13 Onegu wrote:
Austin Lets play a game read your own filter and tell me what is missing, maybe compare it to a type of food. Im thinking a marshmellow do you agree? All fluff, looks good, but nothing of substance. You give your first scum read on page 6 of your filter. My note go like this for you. Wow very good at attepting to get people involved with questions. Good back and forth with people. Very detailed thought process. Very active. Wait there are no scum reads. Only gives town reads. Doesnt call anyone scum. Only scumread a lurker and "Rayn could be scum, but I have had him more scummy in his other town games"

This is a perfect summarization of austin in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 11:49 GMT
#3007
I think both Blazinghand and Bloodycobbler are scum. Explanation in a bit when i have a nice cup of coffee in front of me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#3013
Sharrant was shot because he was obviously blue if he wasn't scum. That dude is the worst guy on this planet to hide his blueness.

Now the BH & BC thing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:29 GMT
#3017
Okay here we go. This is Mocsta's last post:
On November 18 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote:
Running behind schedule, works a bitch today and Im only up to p124.

Things I want to say before deadline.


(1) Artanis: You are tunneled.
Your issues with me are because I do not play the game the same way you choose to.
That is not an indicator of scum. Everyone that has played with me many times realises this is how I play town.
Further, all your reads on other players hinge upon their thought process on me. You should know association reads are terribad.
You are obsessed beyond reason.
Unfortunately, the way you walk people through your mindset makes me lean town.
You need to drop this; or if you can't, fine -- Accept there are other players in the game that *must* be scum and look there.


(2) Spag: You need to sleep more.
Your argument agianst me is that I played 3-4 games with you and should know you best, hence, should understand how you play as town/scum.

Yet, neither of us call recall the specific details of these games.
Fact: I have an opinion on my expectations for your play; however, I don't think for one second this is gospel. Its been 10-11months since we played together and this is your first game back.
If you want to know what I remember from the game we played together: Kush and his buddy got modkilled 1/2way through Day1 and I was left by myself in my first scum game ever. You came in as a replacement and hammed up your play style intentionally. Every decision was premeditated.

Thus, I questioned your actions with VE. My qualms were specifically as I had outlined. No more no less.


(3) Grack: Is still scum.
Im pretty disappointed my gracktease got shut down yesterday - however, I suppose it needs the support of the case to be more convincing to all.
I am not expecting to die, but on the off-chance something did happen.
Please read his filter this game, and compare to Hogwarts. I find the play worlds apart.
In Hogwarts Grack was useless and not confident in his assessments.
Here, Grack is still useless but his delurks are opportunistic and he is constantly jutting in with opinions but no justifications/evolutions.



(4) Storrzerg: I only had 1 bullet so may as well claim.

I vigg'd him. You can thank me Day2.




I'm under the pump already at work, so will prob unveil the Grack case tonight (say 12hrs from now)


This is what Mocsta had to say. He shot Storrzerg ho he can't push his lynch on D2. Where does it leave him. At Grackaroni. Grackaroni is the only person he finds suspicious. What does Mocsta need to do on D2? He literally can't do anything else than to tunnel Grackaroni who is found suspicious by about half of the thread. Looks like a buss? No fucking way in hell. That's so very incredibly stupid scumplay it cannot be true. There is about 20 other players which from ~10 don't look too dandy and Mocsta chooses his scumbuddy (who is unders suspicion anyways) to be his tunneltarget on D2. Fuck you, Grackaroni has to be town and this post of Mocsta proves it.

Now what does BloodyCobbler do when D2 starts. Acts confused as fuck. Right, did some poor vigilante break your scumplans in lynching Grackaroni. No worries. Let's go through Mocsta's filter. Then BC makes a terribad post about how Moscta interacted with other players and ends in no conclusions. Cool, he promises conclusions later. When he gets to them, the conclusion he makes is that everyone else Mocsta ever talked about is town and Grackaroni is scum! This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard because from the people Mocsta talked about Grackaroni is least likely to be scum.

Now what does Blazinghand do when D2 starts. He attacks Grackaroni.
On November 18 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 16:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw

because Grackaronis are always town.


dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it

Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar.

##vote grackaroni


yea ok

so you think mocsta was bussing?


I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role.

This post is so terribad i don't even know what to say. Look at what i said about Grackaroni <-> Mocsta before and then read this post. Which makes more sense? Right. Mocsta can't possibly back up from his accusations against Grack because that's not what he does. There is no fucking way Mocsta decided to buss Grack "because he had a better role" when he can instead attack one of the 10 townies in therad who are playing like shit. Bullshit BH, bullshit.

On top of that yamato wanted Blazinghand dead. yamato wanted BloodyCobbler dead. yamato wanted no other people dead, besides being suspicious of VE who looks terribad aswell.

That's enough evidence. Scum's plans went to shit and they dunno what to do when their "D2 mislynch Grackaroni" plan went down the toilet. Therefore they are FROZEN!

Blazinghand and Cobbler are scum.

##Unvote:
Vote: Blazinghand


P.S. Holyflare is still scum but killing BH is far funnier.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#3018
EBWOP: Mocsta can't possibly back away from his accusations against Grack because that's not what he does.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:34 GMT
#3020
On November 18 2013 21:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do you believe that scum is really putting all their cards on lynching Grackaroni that they're all coming out of the woodworks and oging all in on it? It seems like such a bad idea that I find it hard to see a team with BC in it act that clueless.

I have no idea but what BH and BC are doing is so riduculous it can't be town-.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:36 GMT
#3021
Also riddle me this. Why would scum not shoot into them (BH/BC) if they were town? They have no reason to expect BH is not a tracker. They have every reason to expect yamato is docced over BC. Fuck they did not even roleblock BH.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 12:46 GMT
#3024
Also another thing. See how Pandain accuses Blazinghand of fakeclaiming. He brings up two games. One where BH fakeclaimed survivor on D1, and one where BH fakeclaimed cop on N0.

What would town Blazinghand do? He would love to tear that sort of arguments down because that is so ridiculously bad. Let's look at those claims in comparsion to this one.
Survivor claim in Golden sun:
Yes the claim was bad but it was reasonable. Blazinghand even got mad after the game when there was actually a survivor who scum shot on N1 (that kinda outed him).
Cop claim in I'M A COP YOU IDIOT:
LOOK AT THE FUCKING GAME NAME AND YOU SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THE ARGUMENT IS. The point of the game is for scum to fakeclaim cop, yet Pandain says "see BH has fakeclaimed before" roflllllllll...

The only reasonable fakeclaim Pandain could bring up is BH's doc claim in Hogwarts, yet he doesn't.

If Blazinghand was town he would love to tear Pandain's argument apart because it was so fucking bad! Because THIS is JUST what Blazinghand LOVES in mafia games! Instead he just does not say anything about it.

lol, BH so so very scum! Lynch with fire.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 13:12 GMT
#3026
On November 18 2013 22:03 OOHCHILD wrote:
rayne the problem with you is i have to read your whole filter to get the case on BH, because you spread it out one piece at a time.
I wish you could consolidate your case into 1 post, can use quotes of your other posts if you want.
Because I know there are good points against BH you brought up, but your most recent one is pure wifom and pretty terrible.

No you just need to read 5 of my last posts. Or then you should consider reading the thread..

Also Pandain is probably scum because the claim-case on BH was so terrible. Pandain loves to make terrible cases against his scumbuddies (as he can backpedal from them easily). He made a shit case on me in Noir and right after posted in scum QT "lol rayn i couldn't make a decent case on you, you are playing well".
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