TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 15

On November 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If people can't understand these simple things then my work is done here and i can quit this game:

1) Holyflare says i called Risen town. I didn't, i explained it. After that Holyflare still says i called Risen town. This means he has either not read my posts (which is unbelieveable because he thought i was scum for it) or he has read my posts and arguing about bullshit. If he had read my posts he should have called me out for making up bullshit but he didn't. Instead he twisted the argument into something i have never said - in any case what Holyflare says i did is not true - he is making shit up for some reason and townies do not make shit up.

2) He made a big ass campaign for running for mayor. He never followed those points he brought up and the campaign was shit in the first place. He never did try to convince anyone someone is scum. He never tried to get anyone lynched. He never tried to convince the other candidates someone was scum. He doesn't even have scumreads it seems because he is not talking about them.

3) His read on me changed for no reason. None of the reasons he called me scum for "went away". The only thing that happened was i made some reads (which he did call bad).

4) That's all he has done this game.

On November 18 2013 12:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
BH is likely red given the fact 3 trackers would be a bit much. Also given his insane lack of serious contributions this game would put him very likely in the scum camp.

as for people mentioned in mocstas Filter.

Bc- Defends me when people were suggesting to lynch me. I view this as a scum ploy to buddy up to me but recognize it makes me look bad
Grack - was one of his top two scum reads. Venomously attacks him. Only way he can be concievably scum is if grack bussed him for some reason. Reactions from mocsta would only make sense in that case. Still very unlikely given no sane person would bus their own vig.
HF - mentions him as a null read
Kush - has very friendly interactions with. No real serious comments were involved. Null read at best
storrzerg - was his #1 scum read. Doesn't matter as storr flipped town and mocsta claimed the shot before dying.
mattchew - Calls mattchew town based on meta from previous games.
Lonemeow - defends LM from people and attacks them for potentially driving him out of the game.

He had some aggressive conversations with artanis. Attempts to hold conversation with both austin, rayn and spag.

On November 18 2013 12:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Why? He hasn't actively scum hunting, claimed a role that doesn't make sense with two flipped trackers and semi trolled. Nothing has really added up in his favour. We have one flipped scum who went out of his way to ignore him.

If not him, who would you recommend as your #1 lynch?

On November 18 2013 02:13 Onegu wrote:
Austin Lets play a game read your own filter and tell me what is missing, maybe compare it to a type of food. Im thinking a marshmellow do you agree? All fluff, looks good, but nothing of substance. You give your first scum read on page 6 of your filter. My note go like this for you. Wow very good at attepting to get people involved with questions. Good back and forth with people. Very detailed thought process. Very active. Wait there are no scum reads. Only gives town reads. Doesnt call anyone scum. Only scumread a lurker and "Rayn could be scum, but I have had him more scummy in his other town games"

On November 18 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote:
Running behind schedule, works a bitch today and Im only up to p124.

Things I want to say before deadline.

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(1) Artanis: You are tunneled.
Your issues with me are because I do not play the game the same way you choose to.
That is not an indicator of scum. Everyone that has played with me many times realises this is how I play town.
Further, all your reads on other players hinge upon their thought process on me. You should know association reads are terribad.
You are obsessed beyond reason.
Unfortunately, the way you walk people through your mindset makes me lean town.
You need to drop this; or if you can't, fine -- Accept there are other players in the game that *must* be scum and look there.

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(2) Spag: You need to sleep more.
Your argument agianst me is that I played 3-4 games with you and should know you best, hence, should understand how you play as town/scum.

Yet, neither of us call recall the specific details of these games.
Fact: I have an opinion on my expectations for your play; however, I don't think for one second this is gospel. Its been 10-11months since we played together and this is your first game back.
If you want to know what I remember from the game we played together: Kush and his buddy got modkilled 1/2way through Day1 and I was left by myself in my first scum game ever. You came in as a replacement and hammed up your play style intentionally. Every decision was premeditated.

Thus, I questioned your actions with VE. My qualms were specifically as I had outlined. No more no less.

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(3) Grack: Is still scum.
Im pretty disappointed my gracktease got shut down yesterday - however, I suppose it needs the support of the case to be more convincing to all.
I am not expecting to die, but on the off-chance something did happen.
Please read his filter this game, and compare to Hogwarts. I find the play worlds apart.
In Hogwarts Grack was useless and not confident in his assessments.
Here, Grack is still useless but his delurks are opportunistic and he is constantly jutting in with opinions but no justifications/evolutions.

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(4) Storrzerg: I only had 1 bullet so may as well claim.

I vigg'd him. You can thank me Day2.

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I'm under the pump already at work, so will prob unveil the Grack case tonight (say 12hrs from now)

On November 18 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:


I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role.

On November 18 2013 21:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do you believe that scum is really putting all their cards on lynching Grackaroni that they're all coming out of the woodworks and oging all in on it? It seems like such a bad idea that I find it hard to see a team with BC in it act that clueless.

On November 18 2013 22:03 OOHCHILD wrote:
rayne the problem with you is i have to read your whole filter to get the case on BH, because you spread it out one piece at a time.
I wish you could consolidate your case into 1 post, can use quotes of your other posts if you want.
Because I know there are good points against BH you brought up, but your most recent one is pure wifom and pretty terrible.