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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#3111
On November 19 2013 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC literally says "looking at Mocsta's scum meta he does never talk about his scumbuddies" but right after that he says "but from the people he talks about Grack is scum". He uses Mocstas meta to say "these guys are town" with no other justification but then contradicts himself in sayind "but hey, this is why Grackaroni is scum".

Yeah but he gives reasoning for that and it's not the worst.
You really feel BC for scum?

What about VA and CC pushing LM as scum after Mocsta flip? Yamato vouched for LM and he flipped town. And for some reason LM is active in QTs...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 15:16 GMT
#3112
On November 19 2013 00:13 Onegu wrote:
Rayn I did the samething on grack as BH did, but you guys know my mindset as scum (bus all day everyday). Not sure grack should just get a free pass.

Koshi did you see my most recent post on HF? Do you read that post as him haveing a null read on LM like he claims?

Yeah and here are quotes from VA and CC pushing LM as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 18 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
three people of interest developed from mocsta's filter: kush, artanis and LM.

really buddy buddy with kush and they just have casual conversation where as most of the time mocsta's tone is extremely angry. abrupt changes when he talks to kush pretty strange.

really angry back and forth with artanis for ages, would be hard to fake as scum on scum. artanis is probably town

randomly of all people asks LM if he has caught up with the thread and says he doesn't want to think or talk about LM at all. When he and LM converse it looks fake as hell and completely useless.


On November 18 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I am starting to see LM as scum too. 10/10 would lynch.


Don't know if it is anything yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 15:18 GMT
#3114
I am totally with you to lynch BH. 100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 15:22 GMT
#3116
On November 19 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 00:18 Koshi wrote:
I am totally with you to lynch BH. 100%

I can totally tell you i have a rocksolid case on BC when BH flips red. 100%

Well, VE should use double lynch for tomorrow.

BH green --> We lynch BH scumread + we look for 1 more
BH red --> We lynch BC + we look for 1 more

100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 15:27 GMT
#3119
Hmm. Probably Golden Sun or Hogwarts not GoT :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 16:20 GMT
#3148
On November 19 2013 01:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked



To be quite honest this is a terrible post. You aren't notified if you are roleblocked. However, if you have a role and use it that would normally give you intel back (tracker for instance) you just dont get a pm of findings, ie you'd know you were blocked because you had 0 findings.


That's rayn his point. BH says he isn't a tracker, but in the same sentence knows that he wasn't RB. How did he know he wasn't RB when he did no night action?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 16:29 GMT
#3159
On November 19 2013 01:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:20 Koshi wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked



To be quite honest this is a terrible post. You aren't notified if you are roleblocked. However, if you have a role and use it that would normally give you intel back (tracker for instance) you just dont get a pm of findings, ie you'd know you were blocked because you had 0 findings.


That's rayn his point. BH says he isn't a tracker, but in the same sentence knows that he wasn't RB. How did he know he wasn't RB when he did no night action?


Hi koshi! How are you doing?

why can't you just sheep me like in WC2? BH isn't scum!

Hey, I am totally willing to lynch BH his scumread on D3 if that is the case. But this is exactly how BH played in both Golden Sun (claimed survivor and N1 survivor got died and BH got lynched) or Hogwarts (claimed medic and didn't do shit).

Also, BH will need to convince us in the thread that he isn't scum. I got a guy Masoning me as well that doesn't speak in the thread. It's annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#3165
On November 19 2013 01:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was an indirect lie?


Yamato had me as a town read, not want to kill me. He stopped wanting to off me what? halfway mark of day 1.

Thats an indirect lie as you cherry picked his words to find something he did actually say, but he had also changed his opinion and stated that in game.

Also as a note, you may not have liked my conclusions but go look at his filter from personality 2. He interacts with austin twice day 1 then ignores his team almost fully until town has been so fucked up the asshole he has to talk to his team. You don't like my conclusions is fine, but from a meta stand point it makes perfect sense. Don't like why I think grack could still be scum? Read how mocsta was crafting his messages in personality. Everything was careful and had no real emotion behind it. He looks genuinely pissed at grack on their back and forths. He didnt react that way with anyone else except grack. Why? You may not like my conclusion but the reasoning behind it is fairly sound.

Yeah i agree he did not want you dead at the end of N1. You were one of the people he had accused. That's not a strong point anyways, and i didn't mean it like that.

Can you explain the "Mocsta's scum-meta suggests he does not interact with his scumbuddies, therefore all these people here are town with no other explanation" and right after "but Grackaroni is scum because Moscta talked about him"?

Also can you comment on my analyses on why i think Grackaroni is town and tell me why would Mocsta bus him because what you and BH are suggesting is absurd as hell. Tell me why would Mocsta leave no room other than to bus his teammate on D2 over ~10 other options that definitely do not make him look any worse?


His meta shows he distances himself and almost exclusively talks with town. He tunnels a townie he views as bad (storr). He then does everything else he did this game which is try and not be on radars. I am saying grack is different because of HOW he talked to him. Read personality 2, read this games filter. His interactions with grack are completely different than any other he had. He seems in this game to have a genuine reaction of anger/annoyance/whatever to grack. The guy carefully writes posts. Why would his interactions with 1 player be completely different from everything else his meta suggests? I would say cause he was legit pissed at grack for tunneling the shit out of him. I am reading it off of one specific reaction. Could I be wrong? Yes. However Grack has done basically nothing this game to make me doubt that read of the situation. If mocsta was as pissed as I think he was it would make perfect sense to still dive on grack.

Am i reading this correct. mafia!Mocsta was genuinely pissed off with mafia!Grackaroni for Grack tunneling Mocsta?



its how I'd read it yes. I can say as someone whos done some filter diving that mocsta wasn't really heavily picked up as a potential mafia by many people until after the bit between the two and grack was one of the more vocal people about the push. Could I be wrong? yes, but its completely out of place reaction type. If you don't believe my conclusion the information I used is open to anyone else to analyze.

He didn't seem to like Artanis either but you are right that Mocsta actually does seem really angry towards me.


lo grack wtf is this? are you agreeing with BC that you're scum?

I'm actually kind of curious about why he was so angry towards me. I don't think I did anything mean to him this game. Might just be jealous that I saw through his scum play without even trying.

rofl...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:07 GMT
#3192
On November 19 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh my god

blazinghand pls

get in here

pls blazinghand

I wonder what BH whispered in your ear. Must have been unbelievable sexy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:07 GMT
#3193
On November 19 2013 02:06 OOHCHILD wrote:
bc is making sense to me. Mocsta treated grack differently than he treated anyone else which is indicative of a scum connection.

Yeah I agree that bc makes sense on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:13 GMT
#3197
On November 19 2013 02:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked

Thrawn answer this post immediately. You are not allowed to call Grack scum until you debunk this argument.


because he's not a tracker so everything he says regarding his tracker actions are bs

/facepalm

HE SAYS HE WAS NOT ROLEBLOCKED. IN THE SAME POST HE RETRACTS FROM HIS TRACKER CLAIM?
srsly you can't read or are you scum?


rayn holy fucking hell. if you're town this game like i'm thinking then I'm pretty sure I will never misread you again. can we not have a repeat of desert mafia? can you stop being so fucking stubborn and spamming the thread while not reading anything I say? I've tried to talk to you about my reads in the qt.remember I said I didn't want us to argue in the thread, because I think you're town and I know from experience what happens when town rayn and town thrawn start talking? i've tried to talk to you about my blazinghand town read in the qt. you basically told me to STFU and that you REFUSE to think about any of the points I bring up regarding my scumreads or BH town reads

jeez

I need a fucking cig

:D See town rayn arrived. I can totally not be blamed for not noticing D1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:15 GMT
#3199
If BH flips green and his dieing wish is that we lynch Grack. Will you do allow it rayn?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:17 GMT
#3202
On November 19 2013 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
If BH flips green and his dieing wish is that we lynch Grack. Will you do allow it rayn?

Then i will reconsider. But i can tell you BH is not going to flip green. There is no fucking way that's gonna happen.

I am with you but I put it on 70%/30%. I need to known what BH said to thrawn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:27 GMT
#3212
On November 19 2013 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Yeah if out the vets people are scum I would go
BH
Mig
VE
BC
SS

And with Spag/Storr/Sharrant being shot I guess that it is likely there is scum there.

If there are scum vets they are all scum


O_o Koshi what?

It's from likely to less likely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 17:27 GMT
#3213
On November 19 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi could you tell me who masoned you?

The stray kitten.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 18:02 GMT
#3231
^ cant read that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 23:06 GMT
#3358
On November 19 2013 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have given my reasoning, just ignore the first page of my filter. I can't see that conversation between oats and mocsta happening as scum on scum. I don't have him as confirmed town yet but like I said, don't think he's scum. I thought he was scum in ## mafia because he played slightly differently but he was just town there too.

What? You were scum in ## mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 23:15 GMT
#3366
On November 19 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
@koshi I meant thug life of course, where I misread oats terribly and made you do a bad shot

@VE that early in the game? ill admit if i was wrong of course but im not going to vote for oats

btw you forgot supersoft in your list. Where is he?
Kinda unique to see you give lists. Quite certain are we?

LM is in mason with me btw. I could ask him to mason you next time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 23:17 GMT
#3370
On November 19 2013 08:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
supersoft is the last person in my slightly town row, he's there. everybody in the game is on that list.

woops. True.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 18 2013 23:21 GMT
#3374
How are the rules about copy pasting from Masons? I don't find it.
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