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On November 23 2013 08:47 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:43 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And prior to my sudden outburst how was HF to know I'd get involved in the game beyond a smidgen of defense? As far as he knows when he makes that first post I'm not defending myself at all. He also knows I hate defending myself. I know he read some of my games during WHC. It's only after my burst in posting that HF sees I'm going to actually be posting more and now has to appear to be pushing me while maintaining a semblance of being "open to change his mind". He's not open to changing his mind, and he's clinging to his misleading statements about my gameplay because he doesn't know what else to do. The population of India + the population of china = the number of mislynch options scum has right now. If he's scum, and multiple people have pulled their votes off you, he can SUPER DUPER MEGA easily hop off you and onto ANY NUMBER OF MISLYNCHES. How can he not know what else to do? SOMEONE out of oats/BC/SS/you/pandain/thrawn/rayn is town. Multiple people in that list are town. If he's scum, he can change his mind and hop onto another mislynch EZPZ. This doesn't MAKE him town. But it's way way way way easier for him to be town than you're saying, because scum do not, imo, need to really super duper hammer on you right now if you're town. There are too many options. He is in here expending a ton of effort trying to make you look scummy while you're losing votes, and he's mainly arguing really specific stuff that he thinks based on a single past game. Yet you're all super defensive about it. We're going to have to disagree on HF then. This isn't the town HF I played with last game. Where are his giant cases strung out over multiple posts? Where are his meta arguments backed by people's previous games? Is he trying to change his gameplay? Awesome, I can dig it, but why not acknowledge that in his push on me?
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On November 23 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I see Mig, super, pandain, HF, onegu at last votecount.
onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes
you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack.
Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn?
Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future?
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On November 23 2013 08:51 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:47 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And someone with 4 or 5 votes in this extremely fractured lynch is very clearly frontrunner material, in my opinion. Things are so spread out if scum wants to mislynch they only need to have 2 or 3 people on me. It's what you've been fighting against for a while now, so I don't get why you aremn't seeing that. It's why I said the push on me isn't that successful, but it is going to work as things stand right now unless I'm misunderstanding the bvote thread. If you're town and scum is pushing you, it IS successful. In my mind, scum DO NOT want to read the thread today. Scum look at the votes and see a mess. Scum look at the thread and see a mess. Scum feel like they're sitting pretty, or half-pretty, based on how many frontrunners are actually mafia. IMO, scum drop some dinky votes or cases or reads or whatever and peace the hell out. They don't NEED to wreck the thread, and they PROBABLY don't need to play much damage control on votes. If BC is mafia, he's PROBABLY a goner, and we can look back at people who wavered on him, or wanted to lynch other folks, or whatever, especially at the points in the day where he had like 4-5 votes and was not a clear frontrunner. But I don't think scum need to come in here and bust ass and pretend like they're trying to lynch someone and really convince people. IMO, MOST scum take the lazy play here. I think up until about three hours ago you would have been correct. Then shit hit the fan and things went to hell in a hand basket. I think scum are now having to get involved in the conversation.
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On November 23 2013 08:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:51 Risen wrote:On November 23 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I see Mig, super, pandain, HF, onegu at last votecount.
onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes
you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack.
Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? Dude.................... If there is 1 lynch I am certain about it is the rayn lynch. I will place my missing vote on rayn then. This is going to make you look really bad if he flips town. It's going to make me look fucking awful if he flips scum. SS/Pandain/Grack/LM/Oats/HF are going to be sitting pretty for at least another day if not more while things get sorted out between the two of us.
BC flipping regardless of alignment is potentially one of the worst things to happen to me since I've ignored him all day. If there's a night kill left to town I kind of want it to be used on me.
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On November 23 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:51 Risen wrote:On November 23 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I see Mig, super, pandain, HF, onegu at last votecount.
onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes
you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack.
Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? rayn is in finland and I think possibly asleep. Unsure on time zones cuz we're AMURRCA and we don't need to know other times. I honestly don't care what HF feels about his vote or you right now. I think for all the talk of consolidation and how that's needed, HF is just not a real candidate right now and also SHOULD NOT be. There are too many other people around. I think you continuing to engage him in discussion is a waste of your time and his right now, no matter who is mafia.I think overall it makes me feel slightly better about you? But that's not really worthwhile given how much is going into all of this, and how there are 17 different conversations being fired back and forth across the thread. I agree with the bolded, but ignoring him puts me in a really bad light. I'm voting for rayn and someone else. Oats and HF are very unlikely to be lynched at this point .
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On November 23 2013 09:07 Mig wrote: Austin who are you leaning for with your last vote?
Are you concerned with the vote list on pandain? Won't answer for him but I'm concerned about pandain vote list. I'm still voting pandain/Rayn I think, thoguh this leaves me noncommittal and looks very bad.
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I still don't know what went down with Pandain saying ss altered their logs and then pandain didn't post counter logs? Like wtf is going on there I missed spomething.
##unvote: Holyflare ##vote: raynpelikoneet
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On November 23 2013 09:15 Mig wrote: Vayne/onegu/oats/coag/bc just disappear from the thread and leave their votes on useless people. This raelly fits with what austin was saying about scum potentially noping the fuck out of the thread.
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Link? I thought it got cleared up but for some reason I wasn't fully satisfied. Probably because for a long fucking time SS ignored Pandain calling ss a liar until Pandain was back to clear things up. Right?
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On November 23 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote: Pandain --> I'm not a vet, SS altered the logs SS --> I didn't alter the logs Pandain --> U GAIZ I WAS TRYING TO BE TRICKSY I'M TOTALLY A VET Oh yeah ok. Got it. I don't like that explanation. I remember that now don't know why it slipped my mind.
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On November 23 2013 09:19 Mig wrote: You posted popcorn after he explained it lol.
How are you confused Yeah I forgot. That's really bad lol
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Austin, knowing that rayn has been reading the thread and just popped in and left now how does that change your recent post?
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Rayn is going for the double fakey no slappy wrist flippy fakeout 1080. I like it.
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Also rayn is probably town but must be lynched now. Also ss case on oats is still solid. Too late for shenans. Or is it? I am not comfortable with an Oats lynch last second, though I will be voting one of him/HF/Pandain/rayn tomorrow as things stand so.............. yeah. I have too many scum reads ugh....
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On November 23 2013 09:24 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 09:21 Risen wrote: Austin, knowing that rayn has been reading the thread and just popped in and left now how does that change your recent post? I think he's probably not asleep. I think...there's a decent chance he's mafia. I'm not overly confident in it. I think there are benefits to town for lynching him, but that's a TERRIBLE justification for a lynch at this point, imo. Mainly, I want to look elsewhere still. Yeah I can dig it. Really digging that post by BC, too. Last minute shenans onto Oats from BC go?
##unvote: raynpelikoneet ##vote: Oatsmaster
Deal with rayn tomorrow. That martyr post is godawful especially with Pandain above him. I really want one of ss/panda and oats flipping today. Last second train lets do this people.
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EBWOP: I'm a total sheep and didn't move my vote. If BC flips town I'm so boned rofl
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On November 23 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Risen what Clarity says about your play after WHWC is 100% correct. You are so fucking delusional i have no idea what to say. You make absolutely zero sense in anything you say and you should be policylynched in all the games because you do nothing but hurt the town as either alignment. Lol Rayn cmon broooooooo
I'd believe this if we weren't so awesome together
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EBWOP: I'm not gonna lie Rayn that actually hurt me. I really hope you're scum b/c I really did think you liked me
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The temptation to move shit around last second is something I can't resist if I stay. Then I'll look like my mafia play award self if the people im moving between happen to be town. So I'm leaving things as they stand. Godspeed homies.
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