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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 14:02 GMT
#1541
Ya ok I'm done with this day, glhf town
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:09 GMT
#1542
Let me tell you how I read the last 110 posts:

Thrawn is town:
On November 11 2013 13:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
fuck i dont know what to say. i've typed out about 5 different posts but deleted all of them because there's no point. screw you guys for wasting a week of my life lol

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm not mad... just depressed. lol. i will keep playing because it'd be hilarious if town wins

On November 11 2013 13:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh WoS a special fuck you for that post-death post you made. it's better to just keep your mouth shut than posting something that's only going to make all the people in the game less motivated to play. you didn't post anything during the night phase so it was obvious that you'd given up. that's cool. just don't play against your win-con after you're already removed from the game alright?

Not only for these 2 posts but also for starting the next 107 posts in which actual scumhunting happened.

Then rayn came with this post:
On November 11 2013 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here's what i think.

Thrawn is probably town. I won't even consider him scum as if he is there is no way to win this game with this activity.
Koshi and Hopeless are also town for what i said in D2 - N2.

From the rest of the people:
One of Umasi/Vanesco is scum. They have been on each others throats all game (although Vanesco tried some weird pushing on Sno based on votes and shit). Umasi looks way better than Vanesco so i would say Van is scum from those two.
One of Cephiro/Sylencia is scum. I highly doubt they could both be scum but i am pretty sure one of them is based purely on process of elimination. Cephiro's witchcraft win announcement on N2 was a really bold move if he was scum, therefore i do think he is town from the pair. Otherwise they look equally bad.
That leaves Snodude as the final scum. I have tried to process different scenarios with different people but anything else does not really make sense to me unless scum have been bussing hard from D1, and i do not think that's the case.

Therefore:
##Vote: Sn0_Man

I have 0 problems with this post, I like it and it is a very good summary in which the last 3 scums probably are BUT only if both rayn and thrawn are not scum. I still don't think thrawn is scum and just like rayn said, "if thrawn is scum I am willing to lose this game".
rayn on the other hand is not looking super town to me just because I don't think Mr. Snowman is scum. We all know that Mr. Snowman doesn't play in some of the weekends and goes 100% afk. This happened before in other games, and I find his going away/coming back not scummy. The rest of the case on Mr. Snowman isn't that strong as well rayn, and you saying that Mr Snowman was a dominating factor the first days in Hogwarts is true at all. He just told us he was the one killing 2 scum and ride that claim until he told us how N2.
But rayns unwillingness to provide direct proof why Vanesco is town/scum is bothering me, rayn just skates by the fact "these 2 couples are 50/50 and then there is this guy who is left over and BAMMMMM he is scum"

That all being said, I am not willing to call rayn scum. I am just explaining why I am sheeping thrawn2112.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:10 GMT
#1543
EBWOB:
that Mr Snowman was a dominating factor the first days in Hogwarts isN'T true at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2013 14:12 GMT
#1544
I am saying Sno played really good in that game. I am not saying he was a town leader or anything. Also in this game he has not only non-posted during weekend, but already went into full lurk mode before that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2013 14:13 GMT
#1545
But rayns unwillingness to provide direct proof why Vanesco is town/scum is bothering me, rayn just skates by the fact "these 2 couples are 50/50 and then there is this guy who is left over and BAMMMMM he is scum"

Have you read the thread fully?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:15 GMT
#1546
On November 11 2013 23:02 Sylencia wrote:
Ya ok I'm done with this day, glhf town

tbf I think your case on thrawn is pretty weak. Everybody seemed to think rayn was town D1, why would thrawn not vote for him, and why is it scummy? Unless you can prove he voted for rayn witch while having a scumread on him. Maybe he was just pressuring? Because the timestamps you quoted are like mid phase D1?

On November 06 2013 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:10 WaveofShadow wrote: I posit that you have no right at all to be pissed off about the outcome of today's lynch and it is all a big show to deflect the blame.

I expect at some point for other people to read our exchange and comment on it, but as it stands Rayn will be my target for tomorrow.


This is really the only part of the argument that I followed and I agree with it, especially with rayn starting off D1 deliberately being useless.

When was this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:17 GMT
#1547
On November 11 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
But rayns unwillingness to provide direct proof why Vanesco is town/scum is bothering me, rayn just skates by the fact "these 2 couples are 50/50 and then there is this guy who is left over and BAMMMMM he is scum"

Have you read the thread fully?

I might have forgot a lot of things. That's why I said it is only about the last 108 posts.

But if you can back up your reads with your entire filter then I could pick to sheep you and thrawn I guess. But I still pick thrawn D:
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:18 GMT
#1548
dota atm
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2013 14:19 GMT
#1549
In the last 5 pages of so we talked about the reads on Sno and Vanesco and basically about everyone.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2013 14:20 GMT
#1550
And yes Thrawn's vote on me at the start of the game was purely a pressure vote.
table for two on a tv tray
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 14:23 GMT
#1551
On November 11 2013 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 23:02 Sylencia wrote:
Ya ok I'm done with this day, glhf town

tbf I think your case on thrawn is pretty weak. Everybody seemed to think rayn was town D1, why would thrawn not vote for him, and why is it scummy? Unless you can prove he voted for rayn witch while having a scumread on him. Maybe he was just pressuring? Because the timestamps you quoted are like mid phase D1?

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 06 2013 12:10 WaveofShadow wrote: I posit that you have no right at all to be pissed off about the outcome of today's lynch and it is all a big show to deflect the blame.

I expect at some point for other people to read our exchange and comment on it, but as it stands Rayn will be my target for tomorrow.


This is really the only part of the argument that I followed and I agree with it, especially with rayn starting off D1 deliberately being useless.

When was this?


N1

it's like Ceph is literally invisible in this game
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 11 2013 14:57 GMT
#1552
Yeah, ceph as town would love to do some big plays.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#1553
##Vote: Vanesco
Just woke up and caught up. Wanted to vote for majority's sake, have to run some errands shortly so I'll be back later.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 11 2013 15:32 GMT
#1554
Vote-Count: Day 3


Vanseco (6): Thrawn2112, Umasi, Koshi, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der
Sn0_Man (1): Vanesco, Thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet
Cephiro (1): Sylencia

Not Voting (1): Cephiro



Currently Vanesco is set to be lynched! 5 votes are needed to lynch.

The deadline is in @ Monday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Make sure to PM your ONE witchcraft vote to both Blazinghand and Ange777 by the deadline.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#1555
I'm back. I've just finished reading through the entirety of sn0's and ceph's filter... I'm changing my mind about sn0man again. He doesn't care about lynching scum at_all. His voting behavior consists of sheeping me and voting people so that we reach majority... not one of his votes looks like a vote that he intends to use to lynch scum. The closest to a real vote is his Onegu vote but he barely talks about reasons for onegu being scum, it's all sheeping and conforming to majority lynch with a few comments thrown in about Onegu's meta.

dislike dislike dislike

I just read every single damn word of Ceph's filter including the WoS case and it all looks really good. Even the things that I disagreed with are well explained. (WoS case and no-lynch idea) If he's fabricating his thought process then he has gone to EXTREME lengths to do so. I still don't know why he'd fake claim. Yeah, if OO died to silver bullet then it'd be slightly more safe for scum to fake claim but it'd still be really risky. There's no reason for him to do so at the time... I don't see the motives behind a fake claim. Sylencia.. we still don't know WC votes from a few people that died, we can't confirm which votes are real yet, and you trying to guess at who people voted for is hearsay. If you want to convince town that Ceph is scum you're gonna have to do better than fabricating some WC votes to suit your purposes.

like like like
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 19:32 GMT
#1556
oh @ koshi... if you want to sheep me then you need to sheep rayn if I die... I will let you know if I change my mind about this but I don't think I will. Rayn and I talked for several hours recently and it was the most productive series of posts that this town has seen in a long time.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 11 2013 19:40 GMT
#1557
Thrawn does any of your re-read change your mind on Vanesco? Or are you just looking into tomorrows lynch so to speak?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#1558
yeah that last thing

initially the plan was to let sylencia vanesco and sn0 man battle it out to determine today's lynch. the only person who bothered showing up was sylencia. he started off ok but kinda went into WTF-territory by the end. so really... nothing much has changed about my desire to lynch vanseco. if this were double lynch i'd probably be lynching vanseco + sn0man
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1559
does sylencia going wtf at the end make you think hes more town being pants on head or scum trying to "save" someone? I'm leaning towards the pants on head theory right now, but then that means that Umasi or Ceph are the last scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 11 2013 19:47 GMT
#1560
EBWOP for the sake of grammar, "one of Umasi or Ceph is the last scum"
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